Stratos wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 9:00pm:


With Buddha having lived just a few centuries before (6th-4th century BC). (Though I know next to nothing about him, or the religion that sprang up in his wake. That dating was a quick snatch from a Wikipedia article I noticed the other day.)

Muhammed and his immediate predecessors were actually successful in ethnically cleansing the pagans from a large area, not just Mecca. This involved forced mass migrations, slaughter, rape, pillage, oppression, intimidation and every other trick in the book of Islam.

(Of course, the pagans deserved it....)

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 9:49pm:


Like the Jews did to the Canaanites?

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 9:49pm:


Well this isn't quite like what God's people did in the OT, they killed a lot of the women.  Except for the virgins, who they abducted and took as their own.

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 9:49pm:


What, like the Israelites did to the Canaanites?

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 11:47pm:


If Satan stands on the side of those being murdered, while God stands on the side of infanticide and genocide, are you quite sure you are on the right side?

Not the there’s anything wrong with it, Light. You worship that which is that within thee.

Different strokes, eh?

Forgiven.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 6:02pm:


You have offered the same excuse that Wally1 has for ignoring my posts. That they are too long. So please let me ask you a single simple question that you have been avoiding.

To preface, all Muslims have prostrated themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol and Kaaba in Mecca, and are all obliged to travel to it and march around it, as the Arabian pagans did before Muhammad was ever born. It is where the well of zamzam you wrote about is located. For a Muslim to suggest Mecca and the FIFTH PILLAR of Islam is irrelevant or unimportant would be apostasy, and perhaps even blasphemy against Muhammadan Islam.



It is important for you to understand that

Abraham's home

, and his tomb that Muslims visit, control and continue to desecrate to this day, are

located in Hebron

-

1200 kilometers across harsh, barren, dry desert wasteland away from the well of zamzam in Mecca

- and that Hagar and Ishmael lived over a thousand years before a caravan route was ever established along the Red Sea in Arabia, and even most of a thousand years before the advent of camel transport in Arabia.

On what EVIDENCE do you believe, the scripture-contrary 7th century Muhammadan bunk you are peddling about Hagar, when the scriptures inform us:

Gen 21:14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 11:29am:


So Muslims prostrate toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol and kaaba five times a day because they believe a lie.
Your denial is like someone who had deceived themselves into believing they were a Christian saying "ya but I don't believe Christ was crucified", thereby rejecting the whole subject of the Gospel and thus rejecting Jesus Christ Himself.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 11:29am:


How can something that even you recognize to be a lie, have any importance whatsoever, other than to understand that since it is a lie you should be running from it like a scalded dog?

Your attempt to spiritualize away Islam, to follow a god of your own creation, makes you an Islamic apostate. Don't take my word for it. ASK YOUR IMAM about it.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/ask_your_imam.htm
Yet you remain Islamic enough, to make you an antichrist, according to the holy scriptures of the one true God.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 11:29am:


Nothing could matter more regarding the religion of Islam since you then must simultaneously reject the claim that....

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 6:02pm:


....as absolutely in fact nothing more than falsely alleged, for the same reason. Thus Mecca and zamzam are a lie. Traveling to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol and kaaba, and walking around it 7 times, is no more of the one true God YHWH - that hates idolatry - than when the Arabian pagans engaged in the ritual, in moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship, before Muhammad was ever born.

Thus you must recognize any Islamic relationship with Abraham is a historical and geographical impossibility. You just rejected so-called "tradition" regarding any of Islam's pre-5th century fake history, and the

fifth pillar

of Islam, as the provable pile of pure poppycock that it is.

Thus you have stripped away the beard that obscures Islam from being recognized for what it is. Nothing more than a murderous, imperialistic, political military machine, bent on conquest of the world and subjugation of all mankind specifically to DISbelieving the crucifixion of Christ - the whole subject of the Gospel - and denying the Son of God. Bent on making everyone in the world an antichrist.

The only question left is whether you believe it would be God that wants you to conquer and subjugate Jews and Christians to believe the false prophet Muhammad's lies, or whether you believe it would be Satan that would want you to bring imperialistic "slaughter" to advance a lie.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/

Forever is a very long time, my friend:

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/the_beast.htm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 11:29am:


I am at peace in the Lord gand, though we perhaps both understand who should be getting worked up. You believe there is a God, and you believe in divine judgment. Yet rather than follow the one true God, whose people have followed Him for 3500 years through all of His prophets and witnesses, as revealed in His 1600 year record to mankind, you follow what even you recognize to be a lie. You follow the false prophet Muhammad alone.

Satan is the father of lies. Thus you follow Satan through Muhammad alone. You follow a violent, imperialistic, murderous, truth censoring, antichrist leader, with a scripture-contrary, history-devoid, archaeology-bankrupt, reality-rejecting, geographically-impossible so-called "tradition" - that masquerades as thousands of years of pre-Muhammad history but was all created and put to the pen in the 7th to 10th centuries AD without reference to any actual historical record that preceded the 5th century AD. You follow Muhammad alone, through a "strong delusion".

2Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/strong_delusion.htm