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Question

What do you say, O scholars of Islam, shining luminaries who dispel the darkness (may God lengthen your days!)? What do you say of the innovations introduced by the cursed unbelievers [Jewish and Christian] into Cairo, into the city of al-Muizz [founder of Cairo, 969] which by its splendor in legal and philosophic studies sparkles in the first rank of Muslim cities?

(question at the above link, answer at the following link)

falseprophetmuhammad.com/islamic_slavery_dhimmitude.htm#dhimmitude_in_practice

Dhimmitude in PRACTICE exposing the foolish myth of "tolerant" Muslim masters:

The Answer Of The Shaikh Hasan Al Kafrawi, The Shafiite [Professor of canon law in Cairo, d. 1788 CE]

Praise be to God, the guide of the right way!

The decision given by the Shaikh ar-Ramli [a great Cairo legal authority, d. 1596], by the Shaikh al-Islam [the Muslim religious authority in Constantinople], and by the learned scholars whose decrees can hardly be written down here, may be worded as follows: "It is forbidden to the tolerated peoples living on Muslim territory to clothe themselves in the same manner as the chiefs, the scholars, and the nobles. They should not be allowed to clothe themselves in costly fabrics which have been cut in the modes which are forbidden to them, in order that they may not offend the sensibilities of poor Muslims and in order that their faith in their religion should not be shaken by this. [Poor Muslims may regret their faith when they see how well-dressed the Christians and Jews are.]

"They should not be permitted to employ mounts like the Muslims. They must use neither saddles, nor iron-stirrups, in order to be distinguished from the true believers. They must under no circumstance ride horses because of the noble character of this animal. The Most-High has said [Qu'ran 8:62]: 'And through powerful squadrons [of horses] through which you will strike terror into your own and God's enemies.' [A verse of the Qu'ran makes a good support for a law. Verses may even be torn out of their context.]

"They should not be permitted to take Muslims into their service because God has glorified the people of Islam. He has given them His aid and has given them a guarantee by these words [Qu'ran 3:140]: 'Surely God will never give preeminence to unbelievers over the true believers.' Now this is just what is happening today, for their servants are Muslims taken from among men of a mature age or from those who are still young. This is one of the greatest scandals to which the guardians of authority must put an end. It is wrong to greet them even with a simple 'how-do-you-do'; to serve them, even for wages, at the baths or in what relates to their riding animals; and it is forbidden to accept anything from their hand, for that would be an act of debasement by the faithful. They are forbidden while going through the streets to ape the manners of the Muslims, and still less those of the cities of the religion. They shall only walk single-file, and in narrow lanes they must withdraw even more into the most cramped part of the road.

"One may read that which follows in Bukhari and Muslim [religious authorities of the ninth century]: 'Jews and Christians shall never begin a greeting; if you encounter one of them on the road, push him into the narrowest and tightest spot.' The absence of every mark of consideration toward them is obligatory for us; we ought never to give them the place of honor in an assembly when a Muslim is present. This is in order to humble them and to honor the true believers. They should under no circumstances acquire Muslim slaves, white or black. Therefore they should get rid of the slaves which they now have for the), have no right to own them. If one of their slaves who was formerly an infidel, becomes a Muslim, he shall be removed from them, and his master, willingly or unwillingly, shall be compelled to sell him and to accept the price for him.

"It is no longer permitted them to put themselves, with respect to their houses, on an equal footing with the dwellings of their Muslim neighbors, and still less to build their buildings higher. If they are of the same height, or higher, it is incumbent upon us to pull them down to a size a little less than the houses of the true believers. This conforms to the word of the Prophet: 'Islam rules, and nothing shall raise itself above it.' This is also in order to hinder them from knowing where our weak spots are and in order to make a distinction between their dwellings and ours.

"They are forbidden to build new churches, chapels, or monasteries in any Muslim land. We should destroy everything that is of new construction in every place, such as Cairo, for instance, founded under the Muslim religion, for it is said in a tradition of Umar: 'No church shall be built in Islam.' They shall no longer be permitted to repair the parts of these [post-Islamic] buildings which are in ruins. However, the old buildings [of pre-Islamic times] which are found in a land whose population had embraced Islam need not be destroyed. They shall not, however, be enlarged by means of repairs or otherwise. In case the tolerated peoples [Jews, Christians, etc.] act contrary to these provisions we will be obliged to destroy everything that has been added to the original size of the building. [Only pre-Islamic churches and synagogues may be repaired; new ones must

While I was participating in this forum I increasingly realized that the actual physical slavery of Islam, is certainly not as widespread as the slavery of the anti-religion of Islam is, itself.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 3:14pm:


As the very antithesis of our God-given rights to freedom, liberty and self-determination, the anti-religion of Islam is, in and of itself, slavery. Speaking honestly and openly about Muhammad and Islam, as revealed through Islam's own books, may be punished by the death penalty for "blasphemy" by statute in several Islamic States. If a follower of Muhammad exercises his God-given freedom of self-determination and chooses to leave Islam to begin a life in Jesus Christ, or even to have no religion at all, the punishment is death for "apostasy" by statute in several Islamic States. The simple fact of the matter is, that if Muhammad's followers had not been intimidated into accepting the chains of Islam or face punishment, the counter-Gospel, history-devoid, geographically impossible anti-religion of Islam would have in all likelihood died with Muhammad.

At a minimum, in Islamic countries that do not yet impose the death penalty for apostasy, a person who chooses to leave Islam stands to be disowned, disinherited, unemployed and ostracized by their community, friends, and even by their own family. Little doubt this is primarily a reflection of the jealousy that those stuck in the bondage of Islam feel, toward one of their former brethren who has broken free of the chains of Islam, and its vain rituals. Particularly when that individual is given a new heart, and begins a new life in the freedom they find in Christ Jesus, as so many of their former brethren have discovered.
http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/

John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

If any of the above angered you, as you search your heart, can you see that your anger may be rooted in the bondage that you suffer, making you jealous of others that are free? Take this young former Muslim even in Canada for example, that left Islam when he began a life in Jesus Christ, whose own mother had him thrown off of a 3rd floor mall balcony:
http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=DLDWGGNX

The above didn't even get into the bondage that so many women suffer in Islam as "maids" of their "masters" - that is, husbands. (video link and print transcript)
http://www.memri.org/report/en/print2224.htm

Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her.  Her skin was bruised so badly that she is described as being "greener" than the green veil she was wearing.  Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.

Let alone that all a man has to do is say "I divorce you" three times, and it is done. In Saudi Arabia and Malaysia, even by text message. Needless to say it is a far different matter for Muslim wives that wish to divorce their husbands.
https://www.google.com/#q=bridges+tv+founder+beheads+wife

One has to wonder how many homes of Muslim families, even in the west, are deeded to the husband alone?

Article to long to post

http://www.mwlusa.org/topics/history/herstory.html

wally1 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:


Admittedly, womens rights are on average worse in countries that are Islamic, but both religions are clearly anti-female when taken at face value.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 2:07pm:


Yes I agree it was, and I apologize for that. It was something I had copied from someone else, long ago, before I found the resources I use today. I have now corrected my site. Certainly no need to misrepresent the Hadith, when it gets so much more revealing than that, all on its own.
For example how many women to you believe would desire to have sex, with the very men responsible for beheading their innocent, faithful, farm boy sons, their husbands, fathers, grandfathers and neighbors, while having their way with their little daughters, sisters and mothers?
http://www.brotherpete.com/banu_qurayza_massacre.htm

(1) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interrupt us?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.  (Book #34, Hadith #432)

So the only discussion was about whether they would bring better prices if they were impregnated or not. Or perhaps his followers were decent enough to not want to burden the captives with children, until Muhammad instructed them to complete the sex act.
As confirmed in the last verse.

(2) Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: I saw Abu Said and asked him about coitus interruptus. Abu Said said, "We went with Allah's Apostle, in the Ghazwa of Barli Al-Mustaliq and we captured some of the 'Arabs as captives, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to practice coitus interruptus. We asked Allah's Apostle (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you not to do so. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence."  (Book #46, Hadith #718)

(3) Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, "We went out with Allah's Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, 'How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah's Apostle who is present among us?" We asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist."  (Book #59, Hadith #459)

(6) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's Apostle about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection."  (Book #62, Hadith #137)

(7) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: That while he was sitting with the Prophet a man from the Ansar came and said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get slave girls from the war captives and we love property; what do you think about coitus interruptus?" Allah's Apostle said, "Do you do that? It is better for you not to do it, for there is no soul which Allah has ordained to come into existence but will be created."  (Book #77, Hadith #600)

(8) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: That during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relation with them without impregnating them. So they asked the Prophet about coitus interrupt us. The Prophet said, "It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection." Qaza'a said, "I heard Abu Sa'id saying that the Prophet said, 'No soul is ordained to be created but Allah will create it."  (Book #93, Hadith #506)

No surprise then his followers continue the tradition today:

"Eyewitness accounts detailing the militia attacks are horrifying." "Since last fall, women have reported more than 500 rapes. Three women said five [Janjaweed Muslim] militiamen beat and raped them last August. The women said, "After they abused us, they told us that now we would have Arab babies. And, if they would find any [more] women, they would rape them again to change the color of their children.""

Or search regarding the same in the Islamic Second Jihad conquest of Europe:
https://www.google.com/#q=muslim+rape+england+sweden+norway
For example:
http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2013/10/31/sweden-a-new-hell-for-women-2/

Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not..

freediver wrote on Jan 12^th, 2014 at 10:08am:


It's certainly Quranic.

Sura (4:34) - Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and

beat them

; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.



Because women are considered as:

Sura 2:223 your wives are as tilth (farmland) unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will...

The men in the video at the following link can't even understand the emotional scarring from the slave status of Muslim wives thus treated:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ChnpaMK1oLQ

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 10:43am:
Does your religion ever do wrong Gandalf?