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Re: Is Christian religion dying out?
Reply #45 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:47pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 11:08am:

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The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:25am:

I totally agree. But just because people want a meaning to their lives that doesn't mean that there is one.

True, but the fact that they want one ensures that religion, or other sublimation of that need, will continue.

The human universals include several religious or related practices. Universal behaviour doesn't go away when one proclaims themselves an atheist, it just gets sublimated into other forms. Yesteryears puritanical christians are the same as todays equality crusaders - zealous, unquestioning drones intent on converting the world to the "real truth" - theirs.

There are people like that on both sides of politics. It relates more to their own passion than the subject matter itself.

Yes, there is. But weak people will identify with whatever the strongest influence acting upon them is. Obviously there are idiots of all flavours, but the most powerful influence in a society will have the biggest total number of idiots supporting it.

When we were a christian society, these compliant personalities would be among the most hardcore and vocal christians. Now that we're a secular society, they are among the most hardcore and vocal secularists. Far from being a triumph of "logic and reason" it's a demonstration of the same illogical, irrational herd mentality that saw witches burned at the stake.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: Is Christian religion dying out? Reply #46 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:51pm Thats just humour quantum. There is no atheist religion. If 1 or 2 want to take the mickey thats their thing. If some religious nut wants to pretend to be atheist and try to start a religion thats their thing. Atheism is just a lack of belief in any of your fairy tale invisible ppl. SOB
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Reply #47 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:05pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:51pm:

Thats just humour quantum. There is no atheist religion. If 1 or 2 want to take the mickey thats their thing. If some religious nut wants to pretend to be atheist and try to start a religion thats their thing. Atheism is just a lack of belief in any of your fairy tale invisible ppl.

SOB

People spend money to make slogans on shirts and pay to put it on buses. Some take the time to write books. Others go the effort and expense to make monuments to atheism. Still others organize international conferences about it. All along millions partakes and support these endeavours...

...But spoty says it all just humour and no one actually agrees with it. Roll Eyes

Even better yet, the cat says;

"If some religious nut wants to pretend to be atheist and try to start a religion thats their thing"

so now even the hardcore atheist (which he is clearly one of) are actually religious nuts in disguise. An atheist who promotes his atheism isn't actually an atheist. Wonderful stuff!

I wonder if you would extend that same logic to any religious institute? I reckon when some Christian goes and makes a dick of himself or does something horrid, you will be one of the first to say "look what this Christian did". I doubt we would ever hear you say "he says he is a Christian, but he obvious isn't and does not represent Christians as a whole". Nup, can't picture that for a second.

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Re: Is Christian religion dying out?
Reply #48 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:54pm

Quantum wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:05pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:51pm:

Thats just humour quantum. There is no atheist religion. If 1 or 2 want to take the mickey thats their thing. If some religious nut wants to pretend to be atheist and try to start a religion thats their thing. Atheism is just a lack of belief in any of your fairy tale invisible ppl.

SOB

People spend money to make slogans on shirts and pay to put it on buses. Some take the time to write books. Others go the effort and expense to make monuments to atheism. Still others organize international conferences about it. All along millions partakes and support these endeavours...

...But spoty says it all just humour and no one actually agrees with it. Roll Eyes

Even better yet, the cat says;

"If some religious nut wants to pretend to be atheist and try to start a religion thats their thing"

so now even the hardcore atheist (which he is clearly one of) are actually religious nuts in disguise. An atheist who promotes his atheism isn't actually an atheist. Wonderful stuff!

I wonder if you would extend that same logic to any religious institute? I reckon when some Christian goes and makes a dick of himself or does something horrid, you will be one of the first to say "look what this Christian did". I doubt we would ever hear you say "he says he is a Christian, but he obvious isn't and does not represent Christians as a whole". Nup, can't picture that for a second.

Well thats because you dont read posts properly and only see what you want to see

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Re: Is Christian religion dying out?
Reply #49 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:08pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:54pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:05pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:51pm:

Thats just humour quantum. There is no atheist religion. If 1 or 2 want to take the mickey thats their thing. If some religious nut wants to pretend to be atheist and try to start a religion thats their thing. Atheism is just a lack of belief in any of your fairy tale invisible ppl.

SOB

People spend money to make slogans on shirts and pay to put it on buses. Some take the time to write books. Others go the effort and expense to make monuments to atheism. Still others organize international conferences about it. All along millions partakes and support these endeavours...

...But spoty says it all just humour and no one actually agrees with it. Roll Eyes

Even better yet, the cat says;

"If some religious nut wants to pretend to be atheist and try to start a religion thats their thing"

so now even the hardcore atheist (which he is clearly one of) are actually religious nuts in disguise. An atheist who promotes his atheism isn't actually an atheist. Wonderful stuff!

I wonder if you would extend that same logic to any religious institute? I reckon when some Christian goes and makes a dick of himself or does something horrid, you will be one of the first to say "look what this Christian did". I doubt we would ever hear you say "he says he is a Christian, but he obvious isn't and does not represent Christians as a whole". Nup, can't picture that for a second.

Well thats because you dont read posts properly and only see what you want to see

SOB

Classic spot stuff. Write BS, have it debunked, turn around and blame people for not reading your post correctly. Yes, the bad old days are once again upon us...

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Is Christian religion dying out? Reply #50 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:06pm There is no god without humanity. There is no humanity without god. There is no world without humanity and god. The world is a joint creation by humanity and god.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75287 Gender:	Re: Is Christian religion dying out? Reply #51 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:18pm Soren wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:06pm: There is no humanity without god Not so sure about that one http://list25.com/25-most-brutal-torture-techniques-ever-devised/ what a lovely fellow god turned out to be!
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Reply #52 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:22pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:18pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:06pm:

There is no humanity without god

Not so sure about that one

http://list25.com/25-most-brutal-torture-techniques-ever-devised/

what a lovely fellow god turned out to be!

Did he devise those techniques?

Anyway, you are missing the point - god is not in a world that doesn't also have humans.
The world is a joint venture. Not by god alone, not by man alone. Together.

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Re: Is Christian religion dying out?
Reply #53 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:24pm

Soren wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:18pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:06pm:

There is no humanity without god

Not so sure about that one

http://list25.com/25-most-brutal-torture-techniques-ever-devised/

what a lovely fellow god turned out to be!

Did he devise those techniques?

Anyway, you are missing the point - god is not in a world that doesn't also have humans.
The world is a joint venture. Not by god alone, not by man alone. Together.

god is creation of humans ....

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Re: Is Christian religion dying out?
Reply #54 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:29pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:24pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:18pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:06pm:

There is no humanity without god

Not so sure about that one

http://list25.com/25-most-brutal-torture-techniques-ever-devised/

what a lovely fellow god turned out to be!

Did he devise those techniques?

Anyway, you are missing the point - god is not in a world that doesn't also have humans.
The world is a joint venture. Not by god alone, not by man alone. Together.

god is creation of humans ....

God is inherent in humans. he dwells in humans. He doesn't dwell anywhere else.
But isn't a human creation.

Stories, imagination, poetry are inherent in humans - even if YOU personally have never made a poem and are devoid of any imagination and could never tell even a joke.

It is not about YOU and your own limits.

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Re: Is Christian religion dying out?
Reply #55 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:31pm

Soren wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:24pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:18pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:06pm:

There is no humanity without god

Not so sure about that one

http://list25.com/25-most-brutal-torture-techniques-ever-devised/

what a lovely fellow god turned out to be!

Did he devise those techniques?

Anyway, you are missing the point - god is not in a world that doesn't also have humans.
The world is a joint venture. Not by god alone, not by man alone. Together.

god is creation of humans ....

God is inherent in humans.

not all humans

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Is Christian religion dying out? Reply #56 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:33pm John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:31pm: not all humans What makes YOU so special?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75287 Gender:	Re: Is Christian religion dying out? Reply #57 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:34pm Soren wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:33pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:31pm: not all humans What makes YOU so special? i went to a catholic school .....
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Is Christian religion dying out? Reply #58 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:46pm John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:34pm: Soren wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:33pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:31pm: not all humans What makes YOU so special? i went to a catholic school ..... that makes you one of the herd...
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