The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 11:57am:


Thanks for the link. I will have to look into it more. 

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 12:05pm:


You really do assume too much. Your entire science vs Christianity mindset is a result of being an uneducated idiot who has being brainwashed by militant atheist with an agenda. More than that, for someone who keeps saying "that's in America, where in Australia" you do seem to let local US issues dominate Australian conversations.

Most Australian Christians are not anti science. In fact there are many professional scientist who are Christian. Just because you have turned science into your god, were you believe whatever you are told as you hope for the day we are living in Star Trek land, does not mean that others are anti science just because they like to stick to facts.

I for one have never said that the earth is only 6000 years old. You just keep buying the lie that all Christians are a bunch of inbreeds who won't use electricity because that's science stuff.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 2:39pm:


And what the hell did you just do?

Here we have an example of you accusing Christians of believing that the world in only 6000 years old. No one said that to be the case, but you assume because a couple of morons in the south of the US preach it then every Church teaches it as well. No one here was speaking of a 6000 year old earth, especially not myself. So what the hell were you talking about in your post?

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How can something that a small group of people hold to be a prime example of why all people should have their beliefs stopped? And yes it would have to be forced, because despite the people who have claimed Christianity is soon to die over the centuries, it is still going strong.

Yet again you have no idea what the hell others are talking about, but even worse, no idea what you yourself have just said.

mozzaok wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:


Hardout christians used to think only they were righteous, and everyone else was a dirty goddamn sinner needing to be rescued from the fast track to hell - by whatever means necessary.

Sound familiar?

Quantum wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 1:44pm:


I'm intrigued to see Christianity defended as factual. An acknowledgement that the Earth is older than a few thousand years is certainly a step in the right direction. But a belief that  a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father and born by a virgin can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magic apple tree, still sounds like a hard truth for a member of the reality based community to swallow. It makes the idea of landscaping done by a giant rainbow serpent sound quite plausible in fact.

Now I'm a live and let live kind of guy, I see flag waving and Nationalism more than a bit silly, but it makes for a bit of fun in the sporting arena and I'm okay with that; though taken to extremes it gets a lot of people dead.

Religion is a lot like that, but whereas most people can support a team without starting a war over it, the religious have a nasty habit of belief on steroids. I mean you only have to look at the "Holy Land" to see that. And it's all just a power trip really isn't it. The crumby little bits of charity don't really add up to the income of tithes do they? They're always pretty loathe to dip into the pocket prefering the charity to result from volunteers cooking soup from donated food, or the redistributiohn of donated blankets. I never recall hearing of the church paying anybodies power bill.

Religion:- Give it a rest for gods sake.

Oh I can't take the credit Yadda, it's a bit of an atheist trope, origin unknown.    

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Its easier to believe than the whole universe was created by a big bang.

The source being smaller than a pinpoint which for some strange reason exploded and from this pin point the whole fricken universe materialised.

HHHHMMMMMnnnnnnnn something out of nothing.

Doesn't happen in the real world as far as I know.

Everything transforms from one state to another.

So how can a object that can sit on the end of a pin's point, the human eye could not see it, it's that small suddenly explode and presto we have a universe so big we cant see its outer edges.

That's a tall story if I've ever heard one.

Or that we all came from a worm like creature that decided to crawl out of the sea one day cause it thought land was a better prospect.

Just go and look outside not man's world but nature, the birds the trees the grass etc. the earth the atmosphere the solar system the galaxy the universe.

Luck, somehow luck just doesn't cut it either for me anyway.

Is there a God, for me there has to be something greater than our limited intelligence can comprehend and or appreciate.

Was the son of man God's son, that's for every soul to figure out for themselves, the bible does say that God gave us free choice.

Maybe God created the big bang which is something out of nothing, cause physics tells us different.

The bible does say first there was light and then he created the heavens.

What was this light.................???????

BTW who knows how God measures his days, maybe one year for us is a second to God......??????

The God theory for me is the only one that makes sense.

Now where is he......??????....where is heaven and hell.....????

I don't smacking having a clue.......!!!!!!

One of the points that leans me over to the son of man, is that he was a Jew and yet the Jews had him killed through the power of Rome.

And what about the words the son of man spoke.

Could such words really come from an Earthman.....??????

What about his deeds/works....??????

This one blew me away, soothing to the soul....!!!!!



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