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Reply #60 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 4:11pm

skippy. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 3:27pm:

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

skippy. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 2:52pm:

Didn't he appear in court about that? So he only appeared on court for indecently assaults another women, goodo

thats right... and what happened??????????????????..

unlike gillard or shorty who may have one or two awkward questions they will have no CHOICE BUT TO ANSWER.... Angry

when abbott comes up before a ROYAL COMMISSION... let us know wont you? Angry

he would have only had to touch her on the shoulder to be charged you know..lol..he claimed he touched her back...can you prove different.?

as you seem obsessed with it I am sure you have every detail.

Th women claims Abbott touched her between her legs, are you calling the women that he indecently assaulted a liar??? I think you'll find the women knows the difference between her shoulder and her fluffy bunny,dear.

no you called it her genitalia so I wouldnt be taking your word for anything.. Grin

doesnt sound like you know your front from your back..

as you say.. ITS HER WORD AGAINST HIS>>>she didnt contest the claim again... IT WAS THROWN OUT OF COURT>>>the judge said NEITHER SIDE HAD PUT UP A GOOD ENOUGH CASE>..

I doubt he would have said that had she had a good enough case...

and he she had a good enough case.. it would have gone back again..... Roll Eyes

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Reply #61 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 4:15pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 3:37pm:

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In which case, the lawsuit will be tossed out of court..

Ms Ramjan's opinion that the paper lied doesn't have to be true for her lodge a lawsuit, just for her to WIN it.

Gizmo #### you have it arse about.

1. Woman makes accusation about Abbott.
2. Paper says "You are a liar, woman."
3. Woman sues for defamation.
4. Paper bails out and settles, because it realised it could not prove it's lying allegation to be true.
5. Litigation ended with the

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she TOOK THE MONEY>>>> isnt that what she was AFTER>...

Grin

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if she wanted ABBOTT AND COULD PROVE WHAT SHE CLAIMED.

SHE WOULD NEVER HAVE SETTLED..... Angry

THIS WAY ONLY THE PAPER PAID...IT WAS CHEAPER.

hardly proves he was guilty!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: "Julia Gillard is under police investigation"
Reply #64 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 4:30pm

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 4:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 3:37pm:

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In which case, the lawsuit will be tossed out of court..

Ms Ramjan's opinion that the paper lied doesn't have to be true for her lodge a lawsuit, just for her to WIN it.

Gizmo #### you have it arse about.

1. Woman makes accusation about Abbott.
2. Paper says "You are a liar, woman."
3. Woman sues for defamation.
4. Paper bails out and settles, because it realised it could not prove it's lying allegation to be true.
5. Litigation ended with the

.

she TOOK THE MONEY>>>> isnt that what she was AFTER>...

Grin

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if she wanted ABBOTT AND COULD PROVE WHAT SHE CLAIMED.

SHE WOULD NEVER HAVE SETTLED..... Angry

THIS WAY ONLY THE PAPER PAID...IT WAS CHEAPER.

hardly proves he was guilty!!!!!!!!!!!

When you sue for defamation, Cods......you are suing for money. If the other side folds, and offers you money, in an amount acceptable to you, you settle and save yourself further legal expense.

This paper folded because it could find no-one, including Tony Abbott ~ and he was there, right there when the incident occurred ~ to give evidence it did not.

Everyone with your intelligence can work out what that means, cods.

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Reply #65 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 4:47pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 7^th, 2014 at 3:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7^th, 2014 at 3:28pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 7^th, 2014 at 2:24pm:

GEEEEZE !

Not THIS old TURKEY again ?

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Happy to dish it out over the unsubstantiated allegations of Abbott assaulting a woman 30-odd years ago in his early 20's, but can't handle it when it's Gillard in the hot seat over corruption when she was supposedly a competent lawyer. Cry me a river! Cry

You mean the assault he said he didn't do, he said they lied about, then he said perhaps he did, and then we heard how great a husband he is? That assault?

It's odd isn't it??...Tony Abbott is supposedly a 'serial groper and intimdator/woman basher', but after all the press coverage and magazine articles/books, there hasn't been ONE single other woman come forward with a similar story. Yet when someone like Bill Clinton has a consensual (yes it was infidelity) affair, other cases and accusations appear out of the wood work.

But for Abbott, only 2 women (both of whom, strangely held opposing political views to Abbott), one of them backed up by a friend from the same student politcal organisation..

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Reply #66 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 4:55pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 4:47pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 7^th, 2014 at 3:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7^th, 2014 at 3:28pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 7^th, 2014 at 2:24pm:

GEEEEZE !

Not THIS old TURKEY again ?

http://www.netanimations.net/animated-turkey-with-football.gif

Happy to dish it out over the unsubstantiated allegations of Abbott assaulting a woman 30-odd years ago in his early 20's, but can't handle it when it's Gillard in the hot seat over corruption when she was supposedly a competent lawyer. Cry me a river! Cry

You mean the assault he said he didn't do, he said they lied about, then he said perhaps he did, and then we heard how great a husband he is? That assault?

It's odd isn't it??...Tony Abbott is supposedly a 'serial groper and intimdator/woman basher', but after all the press coverage and magazine articles/books, there hasn't been ONE single other woman come forward with a similar story. Yet when someone like Bill Clinton has a consensual (yes it was infidelity) affair, other cases and accusations appear out of the wood work.

But for Abbott, only 2 women (both of whom, strangely held opposing political views to Abbott), one of them backed up by a friend from the same student politcal organisation..

That is just argumentative speculation Mr Gizmo. Fact is, there are women who allege Abbott assaulted them ~ one sexually, and the other physically in a most violent fashion.

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Reply #67 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 5:06pm

adelcrow wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 3:41pm:

skippy. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 3:27pm:

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

skippy. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 2:52pm:

Didn't he appear in court about that? So he only appeared on court for indecently assaults another women, goodo

thats right... and what happened??????????????????..

unlike gillard or shorty who may have one or two awkward questions they will have no CHOICE BUT TO ANSWER.... Angry

when abbott comes up before a ROYAL COMMISSION... let us know wont you? Angry

he would have only had to touch her on the shoulder to be charged you know..lol..he claimed he touched her back...can you prove different.?

as you seem obsessed with it I am sure you have every detail.

Th women claims Abbott touched her between her legs, are you calling the women that he indecently assaulted a liar??? I think you'll find the women knows the difference between her shoulder and her fluffy bunny,dear.

Cmon Skip...we know that all the accusations made against Tony Abbott throughout the years are lies.
Its only the accusations made against Abbotts rivals that are always true Cheesy

AINT THAT THE TRUTH..

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Reply #68 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 5:10pm

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 5:06pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 3:41pm:

skippy. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 3:27pm:

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

skippy. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 2:52pm:

Didn't he appear in court about that? So he only appeared on court for indecently assaults another women, goodo

thats right... and what happened??????????????????..

unlike gillard or shorty who may have one or two awkward questions they will have no CHOICE BUT TO ANSWER.... Angry

when abbott comes up before a ROYAL COMMISSION... let us know wont you? Angry

he would have only had to touch her on the shoulder to be charged you know..lol..he claimed he touched her back...can you prove different.?

as you seem obsessed with it I am sure you have every detail.

Th women claims Abbott touched her between her legs, are you calling the women that he indecently assaulted a liar??? I think you'll find the women knows the difference between her shoulder and her fluffy bunny,dear.

Cmon Skip...we know that all the accusations made against Tony Abbott throughout the years are lies.
Its only the accusations made against Abbotts rivals that are always true Cheesy

AINT THAT THE TRUTH..

Well, no. It 'ain't'.

But then, you wouldn't recognise the truth if it was biting you on the ass.

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Reply #69 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 5:12pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 4:30pm:

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 4:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 3:37pm:

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In which case, the lawsuit will be tossed out of court..

Ms Ramjan's opinion that the paper lied doesn't have to be true for her lodge a lawsuit, just for her to WIN it.

Gizmo #### you have it arse about.

1. Woman makes accusation about Abbott.
2. Paper says "You are a liar, woman."
3. Woman sues for defamation.
4. Paper bails out and settles, because it realised it could not prove it's lying allegation to be true.
5. Litigation ended with the

.

she TOOK THE MONEY>>>> isnt that what she was AFTER>...

Grin

..

if she wanted ABBOTT AND COULD PROVE WHAT SHE CLAIMED.

SHE WOULD NEVER HAVE SETTLED..... Angry

THIS WAY ONLY THE PAPER PAID...IT WAS CHEAPER.

hardly proves he was guilty!!!!!!!!!!!

When you sue for defamation, Cods......you are suing for money. If the other side folds, and offers you money, in an amount acceptable to you, you settle and save yourself further legal expense.

This paper folded because it could find no-one, including Tony Abbott ~ and he was there, right there when the incident occurred ~ to give evidence it did not.

Everyone with your intelligence can work out what that means, cods.

SAYS YOU.

...LOL...YOU HAVE NOT A SKERRICK OF EVIDENCE TO PROVE THAT...

just that you think you have personal connections.... Roll Eyes

bring up the name of the person your mate David Marr talks about but doesnt name?????????..

give us the FACTS maestro...???..

NO YOU ARE NOT NECESSARILY SUING FOR MONEY...

AN APOLOGY GOES A LONG WAY WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.. NOT YOUR KIND OF COURSE.

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Reply #70 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 5:14pm

Here is a scenario....a script......and The Grappler might do better with these things.......but here is my attempt to further explain.

Rumpole is the Lawyer engaged by the Paper:

Paper: "G'day Rumpole, we ran a story and we called this woman a liar."

Rumpole: "Did you now. Why did you do that?"

"Well, it seemed a good idea at the time. There were lots of stories about the place, so we thought we'd have a go to sell some of our papers."

"Fair enough, and so what. Why are you here?"

"Ummm.....she is suing us for defamation."

"Oh, I see. Why did you call her a liar?

"Well, this woman said publicly that Tony Abbott herded her against a wall and punched, the blow not striking her head, but instead hits the wall beside her head. We said she lied about that."

Rumpole: "Hah, this will be a stroll in the park. We'll shite this one in."

Paper: "How so?"

"Easy peasy. Hit Abbott with a subpoena to give evidence to the Court about it. If it did not happen, all we need is for him to sit in the witness box and say so."

Paper: "We spoke to him already. He won't."

"He won't! What!!!!!!!!!!!! You are phucked. You better get your cheque book out and give her what she is happy to accept."

Paper: "Okay," and paper leaves Rumpole's Chambers

Rumpole: "Phucken idiots. They should have had in their hands a sworn Affidavit signed by Abbott before they called the woman a liar. Oi, Mary, send these idiots a bill for say.....$10,000.00. I'm in on the gravy train!"

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Reply #71 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 5:15pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 4:55pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 4:47pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 7^th, 2014 at 3:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7^th, 2014 at 3:28pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 7^th, 2014 at 2:24pm:

GEEEEZE !

Not THIS old TURKEY again ?

http://www.netanimations.net/animated-turkey-with-football.gif

Happy to dish it out over the unsubstantiated allegations of Abbott assaulting a woman 30-odd years ago in his early 20's, but can't handle it when it's Gillard in the hot seat over corruption when she was supposedly a competent lawyer. Cry me a river! Cry

You mean the assault he said he didn't do, he said they lied about, then he said perhaps he did, and then we heard how great a husband he is? That assault?

It's odd isn't it??...Tony Abbott is supposedly a 'serial groper and intimdator/woman basher', but after all the press coverage and magazine articles/books, there hasn't been ONE single other woman come forward with a similar story. Yet when someone like Bill Clinton has a consensual (yes it was infidelity) affair, other cases and accusations appear out of the wood work.

But for Abbott, only 2 women (both of whom, strangely held opposing political views to Abbott), one of them backed up by a friend from the same student politcal organisation..

That is just argumentative speculation Mr Gizmo. Fact is, there are women who allege Abbott assaulted them ~ one sexually, and the other physically in a most violent fashion.

oopppps... didntyou mean ALLEGEDLY???????defamation coming up maestro.. Grin

unless you have PROOF beyond a shadow of doubt.. which mean not one word against another...but honest to goodness PROOF>..

just because you and skippy keep repeating it doesnt mean it happened. Grin

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Aussie Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 38623 Gender:	Re: "Julia Gillard is under police investigation" Reply #72 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 5:19pm Guess you missed this cods. Quote: Fact is, there are women who allege Abbott assaulted them ~ one sexually, and the other physically in a most violent fashion.
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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14178 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: "Julia Gillard is under police investigation" Reply #73 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 5:23pm Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2014 at 3:09pm: Yeah, didn't he give this crap an airing about 2 months ago? Oh & that reminds me, didn't Red Barron also insinuate that a major Gillard scandal was going to break??? Fcken Nutters One of his "little birds" told him - from memory ?*
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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: "Julia Gillard is under police investigation" Reply #74 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 5:25pm Aussie wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 5:19pm: Guess you missed this cods. Quote: Fact is, there are women who allege Abbott assaulted them ~ one sexually, and the other physically in a most violent fashion. Poor sad f#ckwit lefties, all they know is slander.
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