Australian Politics Forum - Should we believe illegals?

Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Should we believe illegals? Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:18pm It is in their BEST INTEREST to lie so they can get a VISA It is in their best interest to say they are mistreated by Australians It is in their best interest to paint a picture worse than it really is Why should we believe them?
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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Should we believe illegals? Reply #1 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:23pm Quote: Why should we believe them? Who exactly cares if "we" believe them or not? My care factor about them is near zero. I can't say I waste much time bothering to think about them.
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Should we believe illegals? Reply #2 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:28pm Well, they are more believable than this filthy excuse for a government.
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Should we believe illegals? Reply #3 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:30pm Kat wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:28pm: Well, they are more believable than this filthy excuse for a government. who are more believable than the scummy Labor/Greens alliance
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Sparky Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1338 Gender:	Re: Should we believe illegals? Reply #4 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:36pm I'd love to know how fully the Government investigates a refugee's accounts. Does the Australian government have the resources to investigate claims properly?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137142 Gender:	Re: Should we believe illegals? Reply #5 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:37pm "illegals"
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Should we believe illegals? Reply #6 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:38pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:30pm: Kat wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:28pm: Well, they are more believable than this filthy excuse for a government. who are more believable than the scummy Labor/Greens alliance Oh shucks...Maqqa must have shares in a lifeboat company
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74452 Gender:	Re: Should we believe illegals? Reply #7 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:43pm no one gets a refugee visa based solely on what they say, so whether you believe them or not is irrelevant.
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Sparky Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1338 Gender:	Re: Should we believe illegals? Reply #8 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:46pm John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:43pm: no one gets a refugee visa based solely on what they say, so whether you believe them or not is irrelevant. So what other evidence do they use?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137142 Gender:	Re: Should we believe Maqqa? Reply #9 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:47pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:18pm: It is in their BEST INTEREST to lie so they can get a VISA No. If they're genuine refugees (and the majority are), they have absolutely no reason to lie. You didn't think that one through, did you?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74452 Gender:	Re: Should we believe illegals? Reply #10 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:53pm Sparky wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:46pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:43pm: no one gets a refugee visa based solely on what they say, so whether you believe them or not is irrelevant. So what other evidence do they use? they INVESTIGATE the claims, and where possible have 3rd parties verify the information.
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Re: Should we believe Maqqa?
Reply #11 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:18pm:

It is in their BEST INTEREST to lie so they can get a VISA

No.

If they're genuine refugees (and the majority are), they have absolutely no reason to lie.

You didn't think that one through, did you?

O if they throw away their passports then there's no way we can prove otherwise which is why a TPV came in but you guys wanted to that gone

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Re: Should we believe Maqqa?
Reply #12 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:56pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:18pm:

It is in their BEST INTEREST to lie so they can get a VISA

No.

If they're genuine refugees (and the majority are), they have absolutely no reason to lie.

You didn't think that one through, did you?

O if they throw away their passports then there's no way we can prove otherwise which is why a TPV came in but you guys wanted to that gone

pretend your name is really maqqa, you throw away your passport and tell police that your name is maqqa ... are you lying? Cheesy

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Re: Should we believe illegals?
Reply #13 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:56pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

Sparky wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:43pm:

no one gets a refugee visa based solely on what they say, so whether you believe them or not is irrelevant. Cheesy

So what other evidence do they use?

they INVESTIGATE the claims, and where possible have 3rd parties verify the information.

Who are the 3rd parties?

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Re: Should we believe illegals?
Reply #14 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 8:53pm

Should we believe illegals?

Given the choice between believing a person applying for refugee status and you Macca - well you would be in trouble.

It is in their BEST INTEREST to lie so they can get a VISA

I would think that the vast majority would be better off with the truth ???

It is in their best interest to say they are mistreated by Australians

Don't see how it makes any difference, just likely the truth???

It is in their best interest to paint a picture worse than it really is

Maybe the picture is accurate ???

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