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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Should we believe illegals? Reply #90 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 1:36pm chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 1:33pm: No, I'm deciding to believe Bob Carr who was in the box seat with this issue at the time over a left wing media source who's agenda is clear. One persons unprovable claim. You are biased as anything, and are grasping st straws to try and justify bigotry.
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Re: Should we believe illegals?
Reply #91 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 1:36pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 4:02pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 2:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 1:29pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 10:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:43pm:

no one gets a refugee visa based solely on what they say, so whether you believe them or not is irrelevant. Cheesy

Think again.
The Department of Immigration does and has never had a hotline to the Ayatollah in Iran, or to the warlords in northern Pakistan, nor to terrorist held areas of Afghanistan, so how exactly did the department carry out any investigations when a country shoppers identity cannot be established.
It is simply not possible which is why Labor instigated it's 'benefit of the doubt' policy which the department used for many years to allow the asylum process to proceed and to move the people out of the overflowing detention centres.
Scott Morrison has previously called this practice dangerous, and stated that it impacts heavily on our national security.
Labor itself must have known this otherwise they would not have stopped asylum claims 12 months before the election.
Even Labor dunderclumpers must have realised at the time that allowing tens of thousands of 'benefit of the doubt' recipients to live in our communities was a stupid idea.
Which is now why the Coalition will not process claims for asylum from those who arrive illegally without passports which was what they stated before the announcement that no boat person would ever settle in this country.

Nope, thats ASIO's job to confirm identity ... as much as they can. Sure, not all are clear cut, but they aren't simply accepted at face value like Gumpy claims in the OP.

The Minister for Immigration says different eh. Wink

He can't tell you anyway .... due to 'operational security'

He has already explained the process on air.
And the workings of the Department of Immigration has zip to do with operational matters.

"Another boat, another policy failure from the Howard government"

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Re: Should we believe illegals?
Reply #92 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 1:40pm

Stratos wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 1:36pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

No, I'm deciding to believe Bob Carr who was in the box seat with this issue at the time over a left wing media source who's agenda is clear.

One persons unprovable claim.

You are biased as anything, and are grasping st straws to try and justify bigotry.

No, I was listening to someone who obviously was in a position to know the facts.
And he wasn't 'one person'.
He was the Foreign Minister.
Taken into account similar comments also made by the High Commissioner to Sri Lanka prior to Bob Carr's statement, I think that's good enough eh.

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Re: Should we believe illegals?
Reply #93 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 1:48pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

No, I was listening to someone who obviously was in a position to know the facts.

Except he wasn't as the three sources I linked to made evident.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

And he wasn't 'one person'.
He was the Foreign Minister.

Is that some kind of joke?

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

Taken into account similar comments also made by the High Commissioner to Sri Lanka prior to Bob Carr's statement, I think that's good enough eh.

Come up with some facts to support it it. Facts Chicken. Then MAYBE you can justify having your bigoted opinion.

I've provided multiple sources and you have provided nothing.

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74452 Gender:	Re: Should we believe illegals? Reply #94 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 1:49pm chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 1:36pm: And the workings of the Department of Immigration has zip to do with operational matters maybe you could let morrison know that !!!
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Should we believe illegals? Reply #95 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 1:50pm Lets face it..we just dont want darkies in this country
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Re: Should we believe illegals?
Reply #96 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 2:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 12:29pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 10:24pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 10:08pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 2:58pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:18pm:

It is in their BEST INTEREST to lie so they can get a VISA

It is in their best interest to say they are mistreated by Australians

It is in their best interest to paint a picture worse than it really is

Why should we believe them?

maqqa, the picture they paint is quite grim. the air-con is set at 22 and they'd prefer 21.
they have to play call of duty on xbox and most are trained on PS3.
they get the re constituted maple syrup on their ice cream, not the genuine canadian one.
theres only 1 human rights lawyer per illegal to come and hold their hand and coach them in PTSD symptoms.
they sometimes get nasty papaer cuts from the disability pension forms they have to fill in.

life is hell for the illegal Wink

aqua, of course, has proof of all of these claims.

No.

Aqua is full of racist sh1t.

aqua is full of common sense. Wink

He hides it well.

the townsville bulletin understands the common man, sarah and yourself , slightly less so

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Re: Should we believe illegals?
Reply #97 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 2:00pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:53am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:47am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:02am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 7:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 6:41am:

Nice TV paid by our taxes.

Then paying tax into Australia isn't something you worry about eh Buzz?

What do you mean "our" taxes?

Meanwhile a tv is very cheap and that doesnt look like a really good one. You would deny them a TV?

SOB

A television that size is still probably at least a couple of hundred dollars. Multiply that by 3-4,000 (I'm being generous here) plus the set-top box if the TV is an old analogue set without an in-built tuner and you end up with a cost to the taxpayer of close to $1 million.

BS. I got a 32" for 120 bucks @ a jb hifi sale and there are cheaper sales around . . . .and you dont know if its second hand. . . ..

Of course they USED to be expensive . . . . the set top boxes were apparently given to everyone not just refugees.

SOB

JB HIFI haven't sold analogue tvs for yonks. Did you buy it in 1990?

Plasmas and LCDs have never been that low at JB HIFI.

You dont know if that TV in the pic is digital or analogue anyway. If its analogue then they most prolly got it 2nd hand - so - cheap.

The one in the picture is clearly a CRT. Only a handful or CRT TV's had digital tuners built in. Almost all of them needed a digital box.

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BS again. Its a digital LCD. . . . I also got my bluray player/recorder there. Perhaps the one where you live doesnt have them so you think none do?...

... As for the sale where i got mine - the bigger ones were even cheaper but i didnt want a monster one and got a slightly more expensive smaller one.

SOB

They had bigger than 32 inch for sale for less than $120? Even "monster ones" to the point that you chose to go with the little 32 inch as the others were simply too big?

I have never seen a 32 inch for $120. Not even a refurbished Soniq. The cheapest TV's at JB are always on-line sales, and even on-line, I have never seen $120 32 inch TV's. Not even close. The idea that ones too big (I'm guessing it would have to be at least in the 50 inch area, as 42 inch is fairly common these days and isn't a "monster") to be under $120 is...

.... yeah, that's just not happening. If you are going accuse Misty of speaking BS, you really need to back that up. No one is going to believe that you can buy a monster TV (well bigger than 32 inch) for under $120 in a shop in Australia. Well, not from an actual shop as opposed to the back of a van parked behind the shop...

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