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Re: Greens' Leftwing Progressive Ideology
Reply #15 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 8:04am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

____ wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:44am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:33am:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:31am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 6:54am:

____ wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 6:14am:

Greens support pension security for the elderly, returned solders, disabled ... and other welfare payments to continue to be paid. Labor's reckless abandon of people who once they supported, just to be the new Mr No of the opposition nearly stopped all welfare payments.

I can understand why you of all people support Labor in Mr Abbott's old position of wrecker of the Australian economy by opposing anything and everything from opposition. Labor has a long track record of me tooing Libs in bad areas i.e refugee persecution.

Greens coped with Labor's reckless abandon to common sense and honesty in the previous term and Greened up some of Labor's legislation. Greens will apply the same logic by coping with the coalition's reckless abandon of economic logic and will push their legislation to a more progressive mindset.

As for voting against Labor's dirty ETS, so you support carbon pricing to be locked in at $1 a tonne and billions of tax dollars to fix it. Sorry, Greens are not that gullible to support tricky legislation from Labor.

This term is an opportunity for Greens to show that they can work with either Labor or Liberals to improve their legislation and so in future elections voters of both old parties can put Greens second in their preferences so to keep the Old parties more centre than far right.

thats the greens problem.
they couldnt budget a primary school tuck shop.
labor would be insane to throw their lot in with these fiscal lunatics Wink

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the greens will always attract about 8 % of the vote.
thats about the number of australians who cant do grade 1 maths Wink

the greens.. SIT ON THE FENCE and be responsible for NOTHING>..

a good one..

its the same on here.. I didnt vote for them.. finger pointing..

this way now well IN TASSY at any rate they can say that.. stupid the only way they get noticed is to organise petty protests.. like the gay marriage they bring up when its election time.. Roll Eyes

as if no one sees through that little vote catcher..

Yep, they're quite happy to sit on the sidelines with no responsibility and tell everyone else how it's supposed to be done. Amateurs.

Greens are upfront on our agenda. It's not keep the bastards honest, it's replace the bastards. When we do to a point where we run government, then you will see a higher standard of government voters are use to.

We saw what happens when you imbeciles get a whiff of running a government in Tasmania and in Canberra over the past six years. It's an unmitigated disaster. Look what Bob Brown's insistence on a carbon tax in return for his support did to Labor - they suffered their worst ever electoral defeat. You fools may think you know everything about the environment (the reality is far different), but you know nothing about politics or pretty much anything else.

And this is why the distancing between Greens and Labor is a good thing for Greens. Labor is and was never interested in protecting the Australian economy by protecting the environment.

Now without the weight of carrying Labor, Greens can get back to helping voters to understand, Labor and Liberal's path is to wreck the economy via wrecking the environment.

Australians and the Australian economy are not outside of the environment, they are within and reliant on the environment.

As for your worst ever election vote opinion, how can the second best result ever for the Greens be argued logically as the worst. It can't and shows your opinions are not based in reality.

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Re: Greens' Leftwing Progressive Ideology
Reply #16 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 8:10am

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

Greens are not progressive but conservative. They do take a few token progressive issues on as a figleaf, SSM at the moment.

They and the Libs voted against the Malaysian Solution, both cared less about deaths at sea.

The Greens will deal with the simian on PPL, so a huge cost will be levied on most so a few, who would have had PPL from their employers anyway, get paid somewhere between $50–75K for popping out a bub. Worse than the baby bonus! The rest of us will face a significant increase in the cost of living to fund this conservative crap! Retirees, who will make up an increasingly large part of the population will a drop in their income thanks to the 1.5% drop in franking dividends.

As to Greens being environmental warriors bwahahahahahaha

Greens voted against the malaysian deal on progressive grounds, i.e Australia's agreement with the world to protect refugee and treat them with dignity.

As for the paid paternity leave, Greens support children and the early formation of strong and healthy families since this has longterm benefits for the economy and society.

Greens support PPL for those financially challenged and not the wealthy like the conservatives want to make reliant on handouts. Libs support a nanny state, Greens support a socialistic state that protects the weaker.

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Datalife Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2405 Gender:	Re: Greens' Leftwing Progressive Ideology Reply #17 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 8:20am You have to feel sorry for any party who has Greens-win as an advocate and an example of a supporter.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Greens' Leftwing Progressive Ideology Reply #18 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 8:31am Datalife wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 8:20am: You have to feel sorry for any party who has Greens-win as an advocate and an example of a supporter. When no fault can be found with the thread topic, attack the messenger. I acknowledge your hoisting of a white flag.
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Re: Greens' Leftwing Progressive Ideology
Reply #19 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 12:14pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:59am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

Greens are not progressive but conservative. They do take a few token progressive issues on as a figleaf, SSM at the moment.

They and the Libs voted against the Malaysian Solution, both cared less about deaths at sea.

The Greens will deal with the simian on PPL, so a huge cost will be levied on most so a few, who would have had PPL from their employers anyway, get paid somewhere between $50–75K for popping out a bub. Worse than the baby bonus! The rest of us will face a significant increase in the cost of living to fund this conservative crap! Retirees, who will make up an increasingly large part of the population will a drop in their income thanks to the 1.5% drop in franking dividends.

As to Greens being environmental warriors bwahahahahahaha

Hold on a moment. The Coalition voted against the Malaysian Non-Solution because it would expose illegal immigrants to brutal living conditions in Malaysian detention centres where detainees can only dream of watching TV or having access to first-rate medical care or their children going to classes or catching up on the latest news in the internet. Most spend their days crammed into overcrowded rooms with poor sanitation and fear of being hit with the rattan cane by officials. You idiots complain about living conditions on Nauru. Nauru and Christmas Island are the Marriott compared to Malaysia's detention centres!

Oh garbage! The Libs wanted BOATS! as an election issue. None of your points are valid.

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