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Jan 10th, 2014 at 5:03am
 
ALP, Greens to end Tas deal


The Tasmanian branch of the Australian Labor Party is set to pull the plug a four-year power-sharing alliance with the Greens, signalling the end of a series of similar arrangements with the progressive party across the nation, The Australian reports.

According to the newspaper, the party is also considering making a public vow to not to repeat the arrangement - even in a future hung parliament - as it looks to rebuild its traditional base.

The news comes almost a year after the collapse of the formal alliance former Prime Minister Julia Gillard secured with the Greens, then led by Bob Brown, following the hung parliament in 2010 over a raft of policy differences, namely asylum seekers and the mining tax.

The Australian reports the move is yet to be endorsed by the state caucus, but there is said to be strong support across the party's rank and file members, trade unions and the Tasmanian leadership group.


http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2014/1/9/politics/alp-greens-end-tas-de...


Think it's a good move for both Greens and Labor.


Labor can carbon copy the conservatives while the Greens can continue to champion Leftwing Progressive Ideology.

Greens are now the alternative progressive voice to lib/lab conservatism in Australia.
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Reply #1 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 5:34am
 
The Greens seem to be in an alliance with the Libs given their support of increasing federal debt to half a trillion dollars not to mention voting against the ETS when Kevin had a mandate to introduce one
Ive been very disappointed with the Greens since 2007.
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Reply #2 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:14am
 
Greens support pension security for the elderly, returned solders, disabled ... and other welfare payments to continue to be paid. Labor's reckless abandon of people who once they supported, just to be the new Mr No of the opposition nearly stopped all welfare payments.

I can understand why you of all people support Labor in Mr Abbott's old position of wrecker of the Australian economy by opposing anything and everything from opposition. Labor has a long track record of me tooing Libs in bad areas i.e refugee persecution.

Greens coped with Labor's reckless abandon to common sense and honesty in the previous term and Greened up some of Labor's legislation. Greens will apply the same logic by coping with the coalition's reckless abandon of economic logic and will push their legislation to a more progressive mindset.


As for voting against Labor's dirty ETS, so you support carbon pricing to be locked in at $1 a tonne and billions of tax dollars to fix it. Sorry, Greens are not that gullible to support tricky legislation from Labor.


This term is an opportunity for Greens to show that they can work with either Labor or Liberals to improve their legislation and so in future elections voters of both old parties can put Greens second in their preferences so to keep the Old parties more centre than far right.
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Reply #3 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:35am
 
labor are the greens. Who gives a toss what they try and do to hide it
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Reply #4 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:38am
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:35am:
labor are the greens. Who gives a toss what they try and do to hide it



And you are a fool.
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Reply #5 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:43am
 
Kat wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:38am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:35am:
labor are the greens. Who gives a toss what they try and do to hide it



And you are a fool.

Progressives always do wish everyone was. Keep dreamin.
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Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:54am
 
____ wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:14am:
Greens support pension security for the elderly, returned solders, disabled ... and other welfare payments to continue to be paid. Labor's reckless abandon of people who once they supported, just to be the new Mr No of the opposition nearly stopped all welfare payments.

I can understand why you of all people support Labor in Mr Abbott's old position of wrecker of the Australian economy by opposing anything and everything from opposition. Labor has a long track record of me tooing Libs in bad areas i.e refugee persecution.

Greens coped with Labor's reckless abandon to common sense and honesty in the previous term and Greened up some of Labor's legislation. Greens will apply the same logic by coping with the coalition's reckless abandon of economic logic and will push their legislation to a more progressive mindset.


As for voting against Labor's dirty ETS, so you support carbon pricing to be locked in at $1 a tonne and billions of tax dollars to fix it. Sorry, Greens are not that gullible to support tricky legislation from Labor.


This term is an opportunity for Greens to show that they can work with either Labor or Liberals to improve their legislation and so in future elections voters of both old parties can put Greens second in their preferences so to keep the Old parties more centre than far right.



thats the greens problem.
they couldnt budget a primary school tuck shop.
labor would be insane to throw their lot in with these fiscal lunatics Wink.
the greens will always attract about 8 % of the vote.
thats about the number of australians who cant do grade 1 maths Wink
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Reply #7 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:31am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:54am:
____ wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:14am:
Greens support pension security for the elderly, returned solders, disabled ... and other welfare payments to continue to be paid. Labor's reckless abandon of people who once they supported, just to be the new Mr No of the opposition nearly stopped all welfare payments.

I can understand why you of all people support Labor in Mr Abbott's old position of wrecker of the Australian economy by opposing anything and everything from opposition. Labor has a long track record of me tooing Libs in bad areas i.e refugee persecution.

Greens coped with Labor's reckless abandon to common sense and honesty in the previous term and Greened up some of Labor's legislation. Greens will apply the same logic by coping with the coalition's reckless abandon of economic logic and will push their legislation to a more progressive mindset.


As for voting against Labor's dirty ETS, so you support carbon pricing to be locked in at $1 a tonne and billions of tax dollars to fix it. Sorry, Greens are not that gullible to support tricky legislation from Labor.


This term is an opportunity for Greens to show that they can work with either Labor or Liberals to improve their legislation and so in future elections voters of both old parties can put Greens second in their preferences so to keep the Old parties more centre than far right.



thats the greens problem.
they couldnt budget a primary school tuck shop.
labor would be insane to throw their lot in with these fiscal lunatics Wink.
the greens will always attract about 8 % of the vote.
thats about the number of australians who cant do grade 1 maths Wink




the greens.. SIT ON THE FENCE and be responsible for NOTHING>..

a good one..

its the same on here.. I didnt vote for them.. finger pointing..

this way now well IN TASSY at any rate they can say that.. stupid the only way they get noticed is to organise petty protests.. like the gay marriage they bring up when its election time.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

as if no one sees through that little vote catcher..
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Reply #8 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:33am
 
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:31am:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:54am:
____ wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:14am:
Greens support pension security for the elderly, returned solders, disabled ... and other welfare payments to continue to be paid. Labor's reckless abandon of people who once they supported, just to be the new Mr No of the opposition nearly stopped all welfare payments.

I can understand why you of all people support Labor in Mr Abbott's old position of wrecker of the Australian economy by opposing anything and everything from opposition. Labor has a long track record of me tooing Libs in bad areas i.e refugee persecution.

Greens coped with Labor's reckless abandon to common sense and honesty in the previous term and Greened up some of Labor's legislation. Greens will apply the same logic by coping with the coalition's reckless abandon of economic logic and will push their legislation to a more progressive mindset.


As for voting against Labor's dirty ETS, so you support carbon pricing to be locked in at $1 a tonne and billions of tax dollars to fix it. Sorry, Greens are not that gullible to support tricky legislation from Labor.


This term is an opportunity for Greens to show that they can work with either Labor or Liberals to improve their legislation and so in future elections voters of both old parties can put Greens second in their preferences so to keep the Old parties more centre than far right.



thats the greens problem.
they couldnt budget a primary school tuck shop.
labor would be insane to throw their lot in with these fiscal lunatics Wink.
the greens will always attract about 8 % of the vote.
thats about the number of australians who cant do grade 1 maths Wink




the greens.. SIT ON THE FENCE and be responsible for NOTHING>..

a good one..

its the same on here.. I didnt vote for them.. finger pointing..

this way now well IN TASSY at any rate they can say that.. stupid the only way they get noticed is to organise petty protests.. like the gay marriage they bring up when its election time.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

as if no one sees through that little vote catcher..


Yep, they're quite happy to sit on the sidelines with no responsibility and tell everyone else how it's supposed to be done. Amateurs.
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Reply #9 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:36am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:54am:
____ wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:14am:
Greens support pension security for the elderly, returned solders, disabled ... and other welfare payments to continue to be paid. Labor's reckless abandon of people who once they supported, just to be the new Mr No of the opposition nearly stopped all welfare payments.

I can understand why you of all people support Labor in Mr Abbott's old position of wrecker of the Australian economy by opposing anything and everything from opposition. Labor has a long track record of me tooing Libs in bad areas i.e refugee persecution.

Greens coped with Labor's reckless abandon to common sense and honesty in the previous term and Greened up some of Labor's legislation. Greens will apply the same logic by coping with the coalition's reckless abandon of economic logic and will push their legislation to a more progressive mindset.


As for voting against Labor's dirty ETS, so you support carbon pricing to be locked in at $1 a tonne and billions of tax dollars to fix it. Sorry, Greens are not that gullible to support tricky legislation from Labor.


This term is an opportunity for Greens to show that they can work with either Labor or Liberals to improve their legislation and so in future elections voters of both old parties can put Greens second in their preferences so to keep the Old parties more centre than far right.



thats the greens problem.
they couldnt budget a primary school tuck shop.
labor would be insane to throw their lot in with these fiscal lunatics Wink.
the greens will always attract about 8 % of the vote.
thats about the number of australians who cant do grade 1 maths Wink


i notice no one took Greens last election policies to task after they were costed.
There again aquascoot, don't let the facts get in the way of your rant.


Perhaps we should hold a magnifying glass up to Labor's economic record in the last term. You game?
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Reply #10 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:41am
 
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:31am:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:54am:
____ wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:14am:
Greens support pension security for the elderly, returned solders, disabled ... and other welfare payments to continue to be paid. Labor's reckless abandon of people who once they supported, just to be the new Mr No of the opposition nearly stopped all welfare payments.

I can understand why you of all people support Labor in Mr Abbott's old position of wrecker of the Australian economy by opposing anything and everything from opposition. Labor has a long track record of me tooing Libs in bad areas i.e refugee persecution.

Greens coped with Labor's reckless abandon to common sense and honesty in the previous term and Greened up some of Labor's legislation. Greens will apply the same logic by coping with the coalition's reckless abandon of economic logic and will push their legislation to a more progressive mindset.


As for voting against Labor's dirty ETS, so you support carbon pricing to be locked in at $1 a tonne and billions of tax dollars to fix it. Sorry, Greens are not that gullible to support tricky legislation from Labor.


This term is an opportunity for Greens to show that they can work with either Labor or Liberals to improve their legislation and so in future elections voters of both old parties can put Greens second in their preferences so to keep the Old parties more centre than far right.



thats the greens problem.
they couldnt budget a primary school tuck shop.
labor would be insane to throw their lot in with these fiscal lunatics Wink.
the greens will always attract about 8 % of the vote.
thats about the number of australians who cant do grade 1 maths Wink




the greens.. SIT ON THE FENCE and be responsible for NOTHING>..

a good one..

its the same on here.. I didnt vote for them.. finger pointing..

this way now well IN TASSY at any rate they can say that.. stupid the only way they get noticed is to organise petty protests.. like the gay marriage they bring up when its election time.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

as if no one sees through that little vote catcher..


Greens do not sit on the fence.
Which party is seen as the strongest on environment, most compassionate towards those in difficulty and most vocal in support for the backbone of the economy, the low income workers … it's the Greens.

Just because Greens are savvy on how to push their progressive leftwing agenda, unlike you, I see this as a great attribute.
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Reply #11 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:44am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:33am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:31am:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:54am:
____ wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:14am:
Greens support pension security for the elderly, returned solders, disabled ... and other welfare payments to continue to be paid. Labor's reckless abandon of people who once they supported, just to be the new Mr No of the opposition nearly stopped all welfare payments.

I can understand why you of all people support Labor in Mr Abbott's old position of wrecker of the Australian economy by opposing anything and everything from opposition. Labor has a long track record of me tooing Libs in bad areas i.e refugee persecution.

Greens coped with Labor's reckless abandon to common sense and honesty in the previous term and Greened up some of Labor's legislation. Greens will apply the same logic by coping with the coalition's reckless abandon of economic logic and will push their legislation to a more progressive mindset.


As for voting against Labor's dirty ETS, so you support carbon pricing to be locked in at $1 a tonne and billions of tax dollars to fix it. Sorry, Greens are not that gullible to support tricky legislation from Labor.


This term is an opportunity for Greens to show that they can work with either Labor or Liberals to improve their legislation and so in future elections voters of both old parties can put Greens second in their preferences so to keep the Old parties more centre than far right.



thats the greens problem.
they couldnt budget a primary school tuck shop.
labor would be insane to throw their lot in with these fiscal lunatics Wink.
the greens will always attract about 8 % of the vote.
thats about the number of australians who cant do grade 1 maths Wink




the greens.. SIT ON THE FENCE and be responsible for NOTHING>..

a good one..

its the same on here.. I didnt vote for them.. finger pointing..

this way now well IN TASSY at any rate they can say that.. stupid the only way they get noticed is to organise petty protests.. like the gay marriage they bring up when its election time.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

as if no one sees through that little vote catcher..


Yep, they're quite happy to sit on the sidelines with no responsibility and tell everyone else how it's supposed to be done. Amateurs.



Greens are upfront on our agenda. It's not keep the bastards honest, it's replace the bastards. When we do to a point where we run government, then you will see a higher standard of government voters are use to.

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Reply #12 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:53am
 
____ wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:44am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:33am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:31am:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:54am:
____ wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 6:14am:
Greens support pension security for the elderly, returned solders, disabled ... and other welfare payments to continue to be paid. Labor's reckless abandon of people who once they supported, just to be the new Mr No of the opposition nearly stopped all welfare payments.

I can understand why you of all people support Labor in Mr Abbott's old position of wrecker of the Australian economy by opposing anything and everything from opposition. Labor has a long track record of me tooing Libs in bad areas i.e refugee persecution.

Greens coped with Labor's reckless abandon to common sense and honesty in the previous term and Greened up some of Labor's legislation. Greens will apply the same logic by coping with the coalition's reckless abandon of economic logic and will push their legislation to a more progressive mindset.


As for voting against Labor's dirty ETS, so you support carbon pricing to be locked in at $1 a tonne and billions of tax dollars to fix it. Sorry, Greens are not that gullible to support tricky legislation from Labor.


This term is an opportunity for Greens to show that they can work with either Labor or Liberals to improve their legislation and so in future elections voters of both old parties can put Greens second in their preferences so to keep the Old parties more centre than far right.



thats the greens problem.
they couldnt budget a primary school tuck shop.
labor would be insane to throw their lot in with these fiscal lunatics Wink.
the greens will always attract about 8 % of the vote.
thats about the number of australians who cant do grade 1 maths Wink




the greens.. SIT ON THE FENCE and be responsible for NOTHING>..

a good one..

its the same on here.. I didnt vote for them.. finger pointing..

this way now well IN TASSY at any rate they can say that.. stupid the only way they get noticed is to organise petty protests.. like the gay marriage they bring up when its election time.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

as if no one sees through that little vote catcher..


Yep, they're quite happy to sit on the sidelines with no responsibility and tell everyone else how it's supposed to be done. Amateurs.



Greens are upfront on our agenda. It's not keep the bastards honest, it's replace the bastards. When we do to a point where we run government, then you will see a higher standard of government voters are use to.



We saw what happens when you imbeciles get a whiff of running a government in Tasmania and in Canberra over the past six years. It's an unmitigated disaster. Look what Bob Brown's insistence on a carbon tax in return for his support did to Labor - they suffered their worst ever electoral defeat. You fools may think you know everything about the environment (the reality is far different), but you know nothing about politics or pretty much anything else.
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Reply #13 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:53am
 
Greens are not progressive but conservative. They do take a few token progressive issues on as a figleaf, SSM at the moment.

They and the Libs voted against the Malaysian Solution, both cared less about deaths at sea.

The Greens will deal with the simian on PPL, so a huge cost will be levied on most so a few, who would have had PPL from their employers anyway, get paid somewhere between $50–75K for popping out a bub. Worse than the baby bonus! The rest of us will face a significant increase in the cost of living to fund this conservative crap! Retirees, who will make up an increasingly large part of the population will a drop in their income thanks to the 1.5% drop in franking dividends.

As to Greens being environmental warriors bwahahahahahaha
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Reply #14 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:59am
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 7:53am:
Greens are not progressive but conservative. They do take a few token progressive issues on as a figleaf, SSM at the moment.

They and the Libs voted against the Malaysian Solution, both cared less about deaths at sea.

The Greens will deal with the simian on PPL, so a huge cost will be levied on most so a few, who would have had PPL from their employers anyway, get paid somewhere between $50–75K for popping out a bub. Worse than the baby bonus! The rest of us will face a significant increase in the cost of living to fund this conservative crap! Retirees, who will make up an increasingly large part of the population will a drop in their income thanks to the 1.5% drop in franking dividends.

As to Greens being environmental warriors bwahahahahahaha


Hold on a moment. The Coalition voted against the Malaysian Non-Solution because it would expose illegal immigrants to brutal living conditions in Malaysian detention centres where detainees can only dream of watching TV or having access to first-rate medical care or their children going to classes or catching up on the latest news in the internet. Most spend their days crammed into overcrowded rooms with poor sanitation and fear of being hit with the rattan cane by officials. You idiots complain about living conditions on Nauru. Nauru and Christmas Island are the Marriott compared to Malaysia's detention centres!
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