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Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:17am
 
There are 13 times more illegal immigrants than there are asylum seekers in detention who have arrived by boat.
Figures obtained by The Advertiser from the Immigration Department and under the Freedom of Information Act show plane arrivals from the United States (5080) and Britain (3610) are near the top of the list of those in the country without a valid visa. China (8070), and Malaysia (4200) round out the top four.

There are 4446 detained boat people, the largest national grouping of which are Afghans (1422).

Three in four of the 58,400 visa overstayers came on tourist or holiday-working visas; one in seven arrived as students and one in 15 disappeared after being granted temporary residency.

Last year, only 6720 visa overstayers were sent home, most voluntarily, after applications to stay longer were rejected.

The US Government refused to answer questions about how it tried to stop visa overstayers but British Deputy High Commissioner Jolyon Welsh was critical of those who broke the rules.

Mr Welsh said only limited help was given to visa overstayers who were deported and had travel restrictions imposed. "My strong advice to British nationals is that they make sure they have the right visa for what they want to do and stay within the terms of that visa," Mr Welsh said.

Other details provided by the Immigration Department include:

MORE than half of the overstayers have called Australia home for five or more years.

ABOUT 20,000 have lived here a decade or more.

TWO in three have evaded immigration authorities for more than two years.

The figures do not include thousands of visitors who overstay their visas by up to a fortnight.

Refugee Council of Australia chief executive officer Paul Power said the figures helped put boat arrivals into context.

"The impact of boat arrivals on Australia's migration program is very small," he said.

"Political leaders continue to add to public fears about people arriving by boat but they make little or no effort to put the small number of asylum seekers entering Australia into any global context. Little attention is paid to the fact that so many asylum seekers who arrive by boat are found to have well-founded fears of persecution."

But Ethnic Communities' Council chairman Sam Afra said more should be done to round up visa overstayers and send them home. "It's shocking - to have one in three who have been here more than 10 years (suggests) something's wrong with the system," he said.

Mr Afra said illegal overstayers hurt everyone, including legitimate migrants and refugees, by taking jobs and housing, using public services and not paying tax.

Monash University migration expert Bob Birrell said tens of thousands of foreign students, who had expected to get residency here once their course was finished, were now scrambling to find ways to stay after immigration laws were tightened last year. "A surge in the number of students who have overstayed without any form of bridging visa is a reflection of their desire to extend their stay by hook or by crook," he said.

There were 10,600 more visa overstayers at June 30 last year than in 2005.

A spokesman for Immigration Minister Chris Bowen said less than 0.1 percent of visitors overstayed visas and many only for short times before leaving without immigration's involvement.

The 58,000 represents only around one fifth of those who overstay their visas, most being found and sent home within the first two weeks after the document expires.



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Reply #1 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:19am
 
ssshhhhh...dont talk about it...it only encourages them to come here  Cheesy
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Reply #2 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:19am
 
Why doesn't the government do something about these?

several reasons

1. no votes in it.
2. visa overstayers aren't muslim
3. visa overstayers aren't dark skinned
4. no votes in it.
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Reply #3 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:21am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:19am:
Why doesn't the government do something about these?

several reasons

1. no votes in it.
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

2. visa overstayers aren't muslim
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

3. visa overstayers aren't dark skinned
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

4. no votes in it.
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.


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Reply #4 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:23am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:21am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:19am:
Why doesn't the government do something about these?

several reasons

1. no votes in it.
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

2. visa overstayers aren't muslim
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

3. visa overstayers aren't dark skinned
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

4. no votes in it.
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.




so that makes it OK armpit? anyone can come in and stay as long as they leave their name on the way through customs?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


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Reply #5 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:25am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:19am:
Why doesn't the government do something about these?

several reasons

1. no votes in it.
2. visa overstayers aren't muslim
3. visa overstayers aren't dark skinned
4. no votes in it.



“A spokesman for Immigration Minister Chris Bowen said less than 0.1 percent of visitors overstayed visas and many only for short times before leaving without immigration's involvement”

Are you saying the ALP hate Muslims and brown people?


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Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:28am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:21am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:19am:
Why doesn't the government do something about these?

several reasons

1. no votes in it.
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

2. visa overstayers aren't muslim
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

3. visa overstayers aren't dark skinned
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

4. no votes in it.
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.




This is a joke right?  So are you seriously saying that if a boat person turned up on our shores and we were able to identify who they are and where they came from you would have no problem? 

Pull the other one.
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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #7 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:28am
 
Its simple...we dont want uneducated darkies coming here unannounced..Asians, Poms and Yankee ilegals are ok  Cheesy
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Reply #8 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:28am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:23am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:21am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:19am:
Why doesn't the government do something about these?

several reasons

1. no votes in it.
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

2. visa overstayers aren't muslim
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

3. visa overstayers aren't dark skinned
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

4. no votes in it.
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.




so that makes it OK armpit? anyone can come in and stay as long as they leave their name on the way through customs?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


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You're the idiot. Show me where I said it was okay for them to overstay their Visa. It doesn't make it okay and I never said it does. All I'm saying is that they just aren't as high a risk to our security as those who throw their passports overboard when they board those people smuggling boats. We have no idea who those people are. They could be escaped prisoners for all we know. You DO recall numerous prisons being attacked in Afghanistan and prisoners released by AQ, don't you? As we have seen in the media, some of these men have no problem assaulting our women, so who knows what else they got up to back home? Gawd, you make it so easy to make you look stupid sometimes.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:31am
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:28am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:21am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:19am:
Why doesn't the government do something about these?

several reasons

1. no votes in it.
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

2. visa overstayers aren't muslim
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

3. visa overstayers aren't dark skinned
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.

4. no votes in it.
We know who they are. We know where they are. We know where they are from.




This is a joke right?  So are you seriously saying that if a boat person turned up on our shores and we were able to identify who they are and where they came from you would have no problem? 

Pull the other one.


Nope, I never said that. Not even close. I would still expect them to be placed in detention while their claim for asylum is assessed even if they came holding their passport and drivers licence. I don't want them living in the community, collecting taxpayer-funded welfare while their claim is assessed. If they're genuine refugees, then great. Welcome to Australia. If not, they should be sent back immediately.
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Reply #10 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:37am
 
We need taxpayers money to pay for Coalition pollies to attend overseas weddings and to pursue their hobbies...we cant afford to spend it on asylum seekers  Cheesy
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Reply #11 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:38am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:31am:
If they're genuine refugees, then great. Welcome to Australia. If not, they should be sent back immediately.


Well you should be very unhappy with the current situation, as nobody gets sent to Australia in that case, genuine or otherwise.
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Reply #12 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:56am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:28am:
All I'm saying is that they just aren't as high a risk to our security



You still believe a terrorist is going to risk a boat ride instead of posing as a well dressed, educated tourist & coming in by plane?

If his a suicide bomber he won't give a stuff about leaving his identity, in fact he'd probably want his name known & reported so his martyrdom is recognized.

A terrorist organization is going to invest all that time training, trust that his not a snitch & then cross their fingures & hope the boat doesn't sink & he gets out of detention sometime in the next decade?

Seriously get off the 2GB & Tele, they rot your brain worse than heroin.
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Reply #13 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:57am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 10:19am:
Why doesn't the government do something about these?

several reasons

1. no votes in it.
2. visa overstayers aren't muslim
3. visa overstayers aren't dark skinned
4. no votes in it.


Really? None of them are muslim or dark skinned? How do you know this?

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