Stratos wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 8:45pm:


stratos - that's so false .
or do you just have a very llimited knowledge of the Bible ?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 1:13pm:


Anything specific you think is false?

Even if it is false archaologically, it still doesn't change the fact that Islam is based in part on the Old Testament. 

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 5:08pm:


Here, have a wikipedia article

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions

While you obviously disagree with it in terms of truth, Abraham, Moses and even Jesus are all part of Islamic scripture.

This other topic you guys are carrying on with seems to come up in every thread. Can't you start a new thread for it? It is really annoying.

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Those aspects of Shariah law that have been implemented.

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One third of the country supports executing apostates. It is hardly a stretch of the imagination that the majority support the far milder punishment, given that the majority support Shariah law. I find it hard to imagine that Malaysians are unaware of what happens in their own country. It gets enough media coverage. Given all your other attempts to completely misrepresent how Malaysians feel on the issue and how it is somehow "off the radar" you cannot expect anyone to take this seriously.

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How so? The constitution is supposedly secular.

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Nor is our reserve bank. The government does not have to directly control something to have responsiblity for creating and destroying it.

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And yet the outcome closely reflects the will of the majority as revealed independently by the Pew survey.

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Ah I see. You meant a well conducted survey that accurately reveals the views of Malaysian Muslims. What was your point?

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You went on and on about how they only voted that way because it was an abstract principle and how they would vote differently if it ever became a real possiblity. You made numerous other attempts to excuse the views of the majority of Malaysian Muslims. They have all been shown to be outright lies. Suggesting that a survey only reveals what people "pretend to think" rather than what they "actually think" is a pretty serious flaw, especially when it comes to their support for killing innocent people.

Admit it, you have tried to misrepresent what Malaysian Muslims think from the very beginning and at every step of the way. Your argument that we should only judge them by what they have achieved when they can make up a democratic majority, rather than what they genuinely want to achieve, is just another attempt by you to whitewash over the barbaric views that these people hold as Muslims.

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So execution for apostasy is not specific enough? Do you think it would make a difference whether they shot them or chopped their head off?

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I see you have found the courage to have an opinion again. Why is executing people for apostasy abstract? Do Malaysians not understand what execution is? Why does the case in which Muslims in one Malaysian state actually voted this law in not make it real?

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This thread is about you particularly unusual claim that we should refrain from judging Muslims by the views that they hold. It will come in handy every time you claim the opposite. It is the most blatant version yet of attempts by Muslims to equate the impotence of Muslims with benign intent, and yet another good example of the endless misrepresentation of Islam by Muslims.

I am happy to quote what you said. It is perfectly reasonable to describe it as you insisting that Muslims do not really think what they say they think, in the face of all the evidence.

Stratos wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 5:13pm:


Hey, why truth get in the way of a good lie, eigh?!
Wikipedia is Islamized on matters pertaining to Islam. You are being duped into their lies that have been parroted since the 7th century. I have corrected and/or categorized many articles (recategorizing their historical masquerade, into as can only be honestly labeled "tradition"), but the Islamists remove the corrections and resume the masquerade.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/global_war_against_truth.htm#taqiyyah

Here's the most important point.

Islamic so-called "tradition"

regarding anything prior to the 5th century AD

IS NOT HISTORY

. Nor does it have anything to do with pre-5th century AD history or archaeology. Arabian or otherwise.
http://religionresearchinstitute.org/mecca/archeology.htm

Anybody that has spent even just a few hours investigating knows this, like this Muslim Eastern History teacher:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091231160732AAlTMZx

Simple name dropping, in a preposterous pure fiction that was all created and put to the pen in the 7th to 10th century AD, does not create a relationship with the scriptures, nor with what went on from thousands of years before, as made apparent by their prostrating toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol five times a day.

The name dropping that Muhammad pirated and plagiarized through Jews he inquired of, Khidajh's cousin Waraqa bin Naufal, and ex"Christians" like Jabr, only served to deceptively embellish the grand deception that IS the CULT of Muhammadanism who follow Muhammad ALONE.
https://www.google.com/#q=who+aurhored+the+quran+jabr+waraqa+bin+naufal

In fact Satan, through his "messenger" engaged in unspeakable blasphemy against those he did name. Here is what Muhammad described when he told his tall tale about riding up to heaven on a flying donkey-mule:

Bukhari B55 #607 Narrated Abu Eurasia: Allah's Apostle said, "On the night of my Ascension to Heaven, I saw (the prophet) Moses who was a thin person with lank hair, looking like one of the men of the tribe of Shanua; and I saw jesus who was of average height with red face as if he had just come out of a bathroom.

He blasphemes Moses, even attributing jealousy of Muhammad to him:

Bukhari B58 #227: When I went (over the sixth heaven), there I saw Moses. Gabriel said (to me),' This is Moses; pay him your greeting. So I greeted him and he returned the greetings to me and said, 'You are welcomed, O pious brother and pious Prophet.' When I left him (i.e. Moses) he wept. Someone asked him, 'What makes you weep?' Moses said, 'I weep because after me there has been sent (as Prophet) a young man whose followers will enter Paradise in greater numbers than my followers.'

Islam

IS

blasphemy against God, and His holy name, and those that dwell in heaven, just as prophesied of Muhammad and his Islamic kingdom "beast":

Revelation 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/blasphemy_laws.htm#islamic_blasphemy_in_prop...

Stratos wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 10:51pm:


Just another lie. Names plagarized from Judaism and Christianity? Sure. That doesn't make Islam any less ANTICHRIST:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm

Muhammadanism DOES NOT contain LINKS to Judaism. The Banu Qurayza Jews were willing to die, rather than utter such blasphemy:

Ishaq:461 "After the siege exhausted and terrorized them, the Jews felt certain that the Apostle would not leave them until he had exterminated them. So they decided to talk to Ka'b Asad. He said, 'People of the Jews, you see what has befallen you. I shall propose three alternatives. Take whichever one you please.' He said, 'Swear allegiance to this man and accept him; for, by Allah, it has become clear to you that he is a prophet sent from Allah. It is he that you used to find mentioned in your scripture book. Then you will be secure in your lives, your property, your children, and your wives.'"

Above we see Mohammed revealed as a terrorist, while next we find that Yahweh's faithful people well understood that following the false prophet Mohammed, would result in a death sentence in the hereafter.

Ishaq:462/Tabari VIII:30 "The Jews said, 'We will never abandon the Torah or exchange it for the Qur'an.' Asad said, 'Since you reject this proposal of mine, then kill your children and your wives and go out to Muhammad and his Companions as men who brandish swords, leaving behind no impediments to worry you. If you die, you shall have left nothing behind; if you win you shall find other women and children.' The Jews replied, 'Why would we kill these poor ones? What would be the good of living after them?'"

The Jews, OF JUDAISM which IS NOT LINKED to Muhammadanism, knew that following Muhammad through recycled pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship would result in a death sentence in the hereafter, so they opted for death in this world instead:

Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."
http://www.brotherpete.com/banu_qurayza_massacre.htm

Just as so many Christians opt for death in this life today, when Muslims demand they renounce Jesus, or die.

"CAIRO, Egypt (Morning Star News) – A group of Muslims robbed two Egyptian Christians living in Libya, then tied up and shot them to death after the two Copts refused their demand to convert to Islam, relatives said."

http://morningstarnews.org/2013/09/two-egyptian-christians-slain-in-libya/

Stratos wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 10:51pm:


Islam is not a religion as it has lies instead of a deity. Thus Islam is

a CULT

that follows Muhammad alone, who have only been deceived into believing they do otherwise. God gave folks the free will to pray to the tooth fairy if they so choose. That won't make the tooth fairy magically become truth.

Here's a breakdown of the term "cult" as applied to followers of Muhammad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE