Adamant wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 12:51pm:




adamant,

Wrong country.

Google;
Valley of Baca, lebanon

Gandalf, how do you interpret the events in Egypt, with respect to your claims that Muslims should be judged not by their views, but by the actions of the majority?

freediver wrote on Jan 29^th, 2014 at 7:45pm:


I don't really follow.

Karnal wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 8:45am:



Who is the God of creation, to us, to mankind ?

Isaiah 48:17
Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.
18  O that thou hadst hearkened to my commandments! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea:
19  Thy seed also had been as the sand, and the offspring of thy bowels like the gravel thereof; his name should not have been cut off nor destroyed from before me.
20  Go ye forth of Babylon, flee ye from the Chaldeans, with a voice of singing declare ye, tell this, utter it even to the end of the earth; say ye, The LORD hath redeemed his servant Jacob.
21  And they thirsted not when he led them through the deserts: he caused the waters to flow out of the rock for them: he clave the rock also, and the waters gushed out.
22  There is no peace, saith the LORD, unto the wicked.

Stratos wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 9:15am:




Stratos,

There is no contradiction.

My God maintains the purity of his people, through the judgement of his people.

Leviticus 18:24
Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
25  And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it,...


Romans 8:7
.....the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.


1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them....






Stratos,

You are very angry with my God, because you judge that murderers should not die, and that their children should not die with them.

The fact that the children of murderers should die, with their parents, is on the head of those parents.

Guilt upon more guilt.

Consequences for their poor choices.




Proverbs 28:5
Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.


Why should my God pollute his creation, by allowing the children of the wicked to inherit his [my God's] peace ?

The wicked CANNOT inherit peace.

The children of the wicked CANNOT inherit peace.

Light and darkness cannot co-exist together.

The children of the wicked inherit what the children of the wicked will ALWAYS inherit.


Exodus 20:5
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6  And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.


Psalms 106:1
Praise ye the LORD. O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.


I hear you shout....

"WHAT MERCY!!!"

God has declared that he will forgive, those among men who repent, even though they are worthy of death.




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IMAGE...

That image is not depicting a child, and a group of men.
That image is depicting a polluted and defiled land.
That image is depicting moral monsters [who are inhabiting God's holy land].
They are moral monsters which my God is justified to destroy as he chooses, both here, and in the spirit realm.


n.b.
Numbers 35:33
So ye shall not pollute the land wherein ye are: for blood it defileth the land: and the land cannot be cleansed of the blood that is shed therein, but by the blood of him that shed it.

Yadda wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 9:57am:


Oh I get it now.  Baby killing isn't the fault of the people killing babies.

Thanks for clarifying things

Stratos wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 9:15am:




Stratos,

There is no contradiction.

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Exodus 20:13
Thou shalt not kill.

Matthew 19:18
....Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder,....



Leviticus 24:17
And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death.

Stratos,

Perhaps you see the command given in Leviticus 24:17 [given to the Hebrews by their God], as being contradictory ?

I see such judgements as restoring a balance, or, of 'paying a debt' that is due.




Again;
My God maintains the purity of his people, through the judgement of [and against] his people.

Leviticus 18:24
Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
25  And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it,...

Numbers 35:33
So ye shall not pollute the land wherein ye are: for blood it defileth the land: and the land cannot be cleansed of the blood that is shed therein, but by the blood of him that shed it.




The judgements of God, against wrongdoers, is the cleansing the land of its defilement, causes by the wrongdoer(s).

Deuteronomy 17:6
At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.
7  The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.

Deuteronomy 19:18
And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
19  Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.





Dictionary;
defile = = sully, mar, or spoil.         desecrate or profane (something sacred).

Stratos wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 1:42pm:




'killing innocent babies/children...'


Stratos,

If the wicked have children, then who's blood is it, that is coursing through the veins, of those children ?

Like father, like son ?


That image is not depicting a child, and a group of men.
That image is depicting a polluted and defiled land.
That image is depicting moral monsters [who are inhabiting God's holy land].
They are moral monsters which my God is justified to destroy as he chooses, both here, and in the spirit realm.


n.b.
Numbers 35:33
So ye shall not pollute the land wherein ye are: for blood it defileth the land: and the land cannot be cleansed of the blood that is shed therein, but by the blood of him that shed it.







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Leviticus 17:11
For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.



Stratos,

If we owe a [blood] debt to God, then all of our belongings and assets are 'brought into play', to pay that debt.

Or, if the captain of a boat [through his own poor choices], steers his boat onto rocks, then if all the souls on board that boat [his boat!] are lost, then that loss of life, is at the hand of the captain of the boat.



But when lives are taken, people like yourself, can blame God.

Of course, coz, men are not responsible, for the consequences of their choices.       

Right ?