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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #105 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:04pm

matty wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:28am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:21am:

matty wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:13am:

and they can rot in hell as far as I am concerned.

'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'

'judge thee not lest thee be judged'

sound familiar Matty ... or are you only a good Christian when it suits you???
Hypocrite

I am not perfect and don't claim to be.

So what exactly are you trying to say. After all there's a big difference between "I'm not perfect" and "I'm a really rotten kind of person to be calling myself a christian". So you wanna narrow down your self assessment a bit and remember you did say you didn't care less if the greens and their supporters all killed themselves and went to hell.

Matty, I really don't think you have to worry about christianity dying. I mean, if someone like you (esp someone so young), with your total contempt for your fellow man can parade themselves as a christian you can be sure that christianity is already dead. All that's left is to bury it.

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #106 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:05pm

matty wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:28am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:21am:

matty wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:13am:

and they can rot in hell as far as I am concerned.

'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'

'judge thee not lest thee be judged'

sound familiar Matty ... or are you only a good Christian when it suits you???
Hypocrite

I am not perfect and don't claim to be.

So what exactly are you trying to say. After all there's a big difference between "I'm not perfect" and "I'm a really rotten kind of person to be calling myself a christian". So you wanna narrow down your self assessment a bit and remember you did say you didn't care less if the greens and their supporters all killed themselves and went to hell.

Matty, I really don't think you have to worry about christianity dying. I mean, if someone like you (esp someone so young), with your total contempt for your fellow man can parade themselves as a christian you can be sure that christianity is already dead. All that's left is to bury it.

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #107 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:09pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:19pm:

So you don't think the Greens dislike the Church and fundamentally oppose it and it's involvement in society at every turn?
That plays no role in their - yet again - opposition to a Christian message.

The Greens hate the Church. That much is clear.

Who cares if they do, Andrei. The point is why open the day with mumbles about a prayer? Do you do that in your household every day at breakfast. Damn sure it does not happen in mine!

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Reply #109 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:58pm

Bam wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 6:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 12:56pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 12:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 10:12am:

matty wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 10:08am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 10:04am:

woody2014 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:52am:

skippy. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:50am:

woody2014 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:48am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

Stratos wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:37am:

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at you calling people hypocrites

i had a chuckle at that one too .... unbelievable isn't it?

I wonder how many of you did not marry in a church??

I have been married fifteen years and it was not in a church. Im not a hypocrite.

I didn't say you were a hypocrite Wink

you implied that those that are for removing the prayer from parliament are hypocrites .... kind of backfired on you didn't it Grin

They are hypocrites though. They bleat on about caring for the poor and do nothing, they think that voting for the Greens is good enough, whilst the rally compassionate people actually get out there and do charity work for the less fortunate.

how would you know what they do for the poor? The pope bleats about caring for the poor, yet has over $700B in assets just sitting their growing in value .. you said something about hypocrisy?

The current Pope has been in the role for less than a year and the Catholic church is not known for moving quickly to address issues. I would give him more time.

you could give him 20 lifetimes, nothing will change.

When he was Archbishop, he sold the Archbishop's extravagant residence and lived in simpler accommodation. He does his own cooking. He has spoken out on poverty issues more than once.

You may be right. Perhaps nothing will change. We should wait and see whether there is change.

you're kidding right? If he tried to sell the churchs assets on a grand scale, the others in the churchs heirarchy would make sure he met with an accident sooner rather than later .....

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #110 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:01pm

matty wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:46am:

skippy. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:40am:

matty wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:38am:

skippy. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:33am:

LOL the same old loony fringe defending this fairy tale known as Christianity, too funny. Grin

The only loony fringe here are the Greens and their 8% of supporters.

See what I mean? They never let me down. Grin

The loony fringe refers to extremists, on both the left and right wing. You are far left, I am not far left or far right therefore you are on the loony fringe, not me.

I'm not far left, more like centre left, it's just that you're so far loony fringe you think I'm far left wing.

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #111 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:22pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:19pm:

So you don't think the Greens dislike the Church and fundamentally oppose it and it's involvement in society at every turn?
That plays no role in their - yet again - opposition to a Christian message.

The Greens hate the Church. That much is clear.

Who cares if they do, Andrei. The point is why open the day with mumbles about a prayer? Do you do that in your household every day at breakfast. Damn sure it does not happen in mine!

We say a Lord Prayer on special occasions Aussie.
We try to hold Christian values in our house - no matter where we've been living.

I do hold the point though the Greens and their supporters hold an inexplicable hatred of the Church and it's tradition.

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #112 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:29pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:19pm:

So you don't think the Greens dislike the Church and fundamentally oppose it and it's involvement in society at every turn?
That plays no role in their - yet again - opposition to a Christian message.

The Greens hate the Church. That much is clear.

Who cares if they do, Andrei. The point is why open the day with mumbles about a prayer? Do you do that in your household every day at breakfast. Damn sure it does not happen in mine!

We say a Lord Prayer on special occasions Aussie.
We try to hold Christian values in our house - no matter where we've been living.

I do hold the point though the Greens and their supporters hold an inexplicable hatred of the Church and it's tradition.

I don't care what the Greens say. This is me saying....."bugger it off.....it is mumbled rubbish."

Why keep it? It is rubbish.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens Reply #113 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:36pm Tradition? Values? Nodding our head to our Christian roots as a country? I say keep it.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38662 Gender:	Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens Reply #114 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:40pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:36pm: Tradition? Values? Nodding our head to our Christian roots as a country? I say keep it. I know that. If it did not happen, just like me, you would not care less. Waste of time.
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26506 Australia	Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens Reply #115 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 4:38am Why is it there is no actual discussion of the pros and cons of the silly prayer but instead theres heaps of ad-hominem? Do the xtians know they are in the wrong here? SOB
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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #116 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 5:19am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:19pm:

So you don't think the Greens dislike the Church and fundamentally oppose it and it's involvement in society at every turn?
That plays no role in their - yet again - opposition to a Christian message.

The Greens hate the Church. That much is clear.

Thats not clear … unless you would like to supply what facts you have to back up your opinion. Or is your opinion factless?

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #117 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 6:27am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:05am:

You are no friend to the greens. Cats kill 1000's of native animals every year

You forgot to add that cats kill 1,000,000's of introduced species each year that take up the nesting space of native birds, and that eat the food that the natives eat. Tongue

And if it wasn't for feral cats, Australia would be 6 foot under a seething layer of Cane Toads ... Cool

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #118 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 7:43am

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:58pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 6:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 12:56pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 12:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 10:12am:

matty wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 10:08am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 10:04am:

woody2014 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:52am:

skippy. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:50am:

woody2014 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:48am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

Stratos wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:37am:

Also

at you calling people hypocrites

i had a chuckle at that one too .... unbelievable isn't it?

I wonder how many of you did not marry in a church??

I have been married fifteen years and it was not in a church. Im not a hypocrite.

I didn't say you were a hypocrite Wink

you implied that those that are for removing the prayer from parliament are hypocrites .... kind of backfired on you didn't it Grin

They are hypocrites though. They bleat on about caring for the poor and do nothing, they think that voting for the Greens is good enough, whilst the rally compassionate people actually get out there and do charity work for the less fortunate.

how would you know what they do for the poor? The pope bleats about caring for the poor, yet has over $700B in assets just sitting their growing in value .. you said something about hypocrisy?

The current Pope has been in the role for less than a year and the Catholic church is not known for moving quickly to address issues. I would give him more time.

you could give him 20 lifetimes, nothing will change.

When he was Archbishop, he sold the Archbishop's extravagant residence and lived in simpler accommodation. He does his own cooking. He has spoken out on poverty issues more than once.

You may be right. Perhaps nothing will change. We should wait and see whether there is change.

you're kidding right? If he tried to sell the churchs assets on a grand scale, the others in the churchs heirarchy would make sure he met with an accident sooner rather than later .....

I never said that he would sell assets generally. It's more likely that he will bring more attention of Catholics onto poverty than has been the case in the past. It is within the teachings of Christianity.

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #119 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 7:53am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 6:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:05am:

You are no friend to the greens. Cats kill 1000's of native animals every year

You forgot to add that cats kill 1,000,000's of introduced species each year that take up the nesting space of native birds, and that eat the food that the natives eat. Tongue

Feral cats don't go around selecting their prey on the basis of whether they are introduced or not.

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And if it wasn't for feral cats, Australia would be 6 foot under a seething layer of Cane Toads ... Cool

Do you really think that feral cats can eat cane toads without harm and choose them over other prey?

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Question: Should the Lord's Prayer be scrapped in Parliament?
Yes 13 (68.4%) No 6 (31.6%) not sure 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 19 « Created by: Bobby. on: Jan 18^th, 2014 at 3:56pm »