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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #120 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 8:01am

Bam wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 6:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:05am:

You are no friend to the greens. Cats kill 1000's of native animals every year

You forgot to add that cats kill 1,000,000's of introduced species each year that take up the nesting space of native birds, and that eat the food that the natives eat. Tongue

Feral cats don't go around selecting their prey on the basis of whether they are introduced or not.

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And if it wasn't for feral cats, Australia would be 6 foot under a seething layer of Cane Toads ... Cool

Do you really think that feral cats can eat cane toads without harm and choose them over other prey?

Actually they choose the easiest prey and their preferred prey is rats and mice. Just look @ the rat plague in dalby ever since the military went in there and killed the feral kats.

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #121 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 8:29am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 6:27am:

[quote author=aquascoot link=1389728965/7#7 date=1389733546]

You are no friend to the greens. Cats kill 1000's of native animals every year

You forgot to add that cats kill 1,000,000's of introduced species each year that take up the nesting space of native birds, and that eat the food that the natives eat. Tongue

And if it wasn't for feral cats, Australia would be 6 foot under a seething layer of Cane Toads ... Cool

[/quHow to Treat a Cat With Toad Poisoning

By Sheldon Rubin

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©2006 Publications International, Ltd. Step 2

Nature provides all life with some means of protection. With certain toads it is the saliva, which is thought to contain a potent toxin. The poison contained in a toad's saliva is so strong that once it comes in contact with the mouth or eyes of the cat, it causes severe symptoms within minutes.

Toad poisoning affects the heart and nervous system to such a degree that death can occur within 30 minutes if the cat is not treated. Some warning signs that indicate your cat has experienced toad poisoning include excessive drooling, a shaking head, trembling and shaking body, lack of coordination, difficulty breathing, convulsions, and coma. Signs may develop around the mouth or eyes of the cat immediately after contact with the toad (Bufo species).

You should also watch for signs of shock, which include pale or white cat gums as well as rapid heartbeat and breathing. If your cat has toad poisoning, use the following cat care tips:

Step 1: Approach the cat carefully. If your cat is nervous or anxious, restrain the cat if necessary.

Step 2: Flush the cat's mouth thoroughly with water, being careful not
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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #122 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 8:31am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 6:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:05am:

You are no friend to the greens. Cats kill 1000's of native animals every year

You forgot to add that cats kill 1,000,000's of introduced species each year that take up the nesting space of native birds, and that eat the food that the natives eat. Tongue

And if it wasn't for feral cats, Australia would be 6 foot under a seething layer of Cane Toads ... Cool

How to Treat a Cat With Toad Poisoning

By Sheldon Rubin

Comments

©2006 Publications International, Ltd. Step 2

Nature provides all life with some means of protection. With certain toads it is the saliva, which is thought to contain a potent toxin. The poison contained in a toad's saliva is so strong that once it comes in contact with the mouth or eyes of the cat, it causes severe symptoms within minutes.

Toad poisoning affects the heart and nervous system to such a degree that death can occur within 30 minutes if the cat is not treated. Some warning signs that indicate your cat has experienced toad poisoning include excessive drooling, a shaking head, trembling and shaking body, lack of coordination, difficulty breathing, convulsions, and coma. Signs may develop around the mouth or eyes of the cat immediately after contact with the toad (Bufo species).

You should also watch for signs of shock, which include pale or white cat gums as well as rapid heartbeat and breathing. If your cat has toad poisoning, use the following cat care tips:

Step 1: Approach the cat carefully. If your cat is nervous or anxious, restrain the cat if necessary.

Step 2: Flush the cat's mouth thoroughly with water, being careful not

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #123 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 9:42am

woody2014 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

NBNMyths wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 2:05pm:

woody2014 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:18am:

WHY DO JOHHNY COME LATELY'S ALWAY'S WANT TO bugger WITH THINGS

Without it, we'd still be burning non-believers at the stake and chopping off people's hands for stealing a loaf of bread. Divorce would be illegal, as would the education of women.

It's called progress, and its highly likely you were part of the process. The 'things' you're happy with now were probably considered radical 100 years ago.

WE never burnt people at the stake here

WE never cut of peoples hand here

MY GGG Grand mother went to school in AUSTRALIA

So you know DIDDLY SQUAT Grin

You want Australian examples?

- Federation?

- Giving women and Aboriginals the vote?

- Paying fair wages to aboriginal workers (thus ending effective slavery)?
e.g.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gurindji_Strike

- Changing from "God save the King/Queen" to "Advance Australia Fair"?

- Changing from the Union jack to the Australian flag?

Do you oppose any of these "progressive" measures today, which were often opposed by the conservatives of the era?

Yep, why "bugger with things". Let's go back to the Australia of 1800. Roll Eyes

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #124 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 9:45am

Bam wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 7:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:58pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 6:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 12:56pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 12:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 10:12am:

matty wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 10:08am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 10:04am:

woody2014 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:52am:

skippy. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:50am:

woody2014 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:48am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

Stratos wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:37am:

Also

at you calling people hypocrites

i had a chuckle at that one too .... unbelievable isn't it?

I wonder how many of you did not marry in a church??

I have been married fifteen years and it was not in a church. Im not a hypocrite.

I didn't say you were a hypocrite Wink

you implied that those that are for removing the prayer from parliament are hypocrites .... kind of backfired on you didn't it Grin

They are hypocrites though. They bleat on about caring for the poor and do nothing, they think that voting for the Greens is good enough, whilst the rally compassionate people actually get out there and do charity work for the less fortunate.

how would you know what they do for the poor? The pope bleats about caring for the poor, yet has over $700B in assets just sitting their growing in value .. you said something about hypocrisy?

The current Pope has been in the role for less than a year and the Catholic church is not known for moving quickly to address issues. I would give him more time.

you could give him 20 lifetimes, nothing will change.

When he was Archbishop, he sold the Archbishop's extravagant residence and lived in simpler accommodation. He does his own cooking. He has spoken out on poverty issues more than once.

You may be right. Perhaps nothing will change. We should wait and see whether there is change.

you're kidding right? If he tried to sell the churchs assets on a grand scale, the others in the churchs heirarchy would make sure he met with an accident sooner rather than later .....

I never said that he would sell assets generally. It's more likely that he will bring more attention of Catholics onto poverty than has been the case in the past. It is within the teachings of Christianity.

so he's going to try and milk more money out of his parishoners, using the poor as his excuse? My comment was about the church accumulating over $700 Billion in assets, that amount could wipe out poverty world wide. All the church seems to do is accumulate wealth rather than tend to the poor.

Sure, they make a few token gesutres, send some priests out to some areas, but they send them out with nil or very little aid, no access to the church's money, and they then use that attempt to create a 'cause' to get people to donate more money. There are individuals in the church that care, and really do give their all, but the organisation as a whole, is just like every other organisation world wide ... they put Profits First.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74498 Gender:	Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens Reply #125 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 9:46am Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 6:27am: You forgot to add that cats kill 1,000,000's of introduced species each year cats kill other cats?????
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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #126 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 9:48am

NBNMyths wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 9:42am:

woody2014 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

NBNMyths wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 2:05pm:

woody2014 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:18am:

WHY DO JOHHNY COME LATELY'S ALWAY'S WANT TO bugger WITH THINGS

Without it, we'd still be burning non-believers at the stake and chopping off people's hands for stealing a loaf of bread. Divorce would be illegal, as would the education of women.

It's called progress, and its highly likely you were part of the process. The 'things' you're happy with now were probably considered radical 100 years ago.

WE never burnt people at the stake here

WE never cut of peoples hand here

MY GGG Grand mother went to school in AUSTRALIA

So you know DIDDLY SQUAT Grin

You want Australian examples?

- Federation?

- Giving women and Aboriginals the vote?

- Paying fair wages to aboriginal workers (thus ending effective slavery)?
e.g.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gurindji_Strike

- Changing from "God save the King/Queen" to "Advance Australia Fair"?

- Changing from the Union jack to the Australian flag?

Do you oppose any of these "progressive" measures today, which were often opposed by the conservatives of the era?

Yep, why "bugger with things". Let's go back to the Australia of 1800. Roll Eyes

Some of those things were hardly steps forward.

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #127 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 10:01am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 9:48am:

NBNMyths wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 9:42am:

You want Australian examples?

- Federation?

- Giving women and Aboriginals the vote?

- Paying fair wages to aboriginal workers (thus ending effective slavery)?
e.g.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gurindji_Strike

- Changing from "God save the King/Queen" to "Advance Australia Fair"?

- Changing from the Union jack to the Australian flag?

Do you oppose any of these "progressive" measures today, which were often opposed by the conservatives of the era?

Yep, why "bugger with things". Let's go back to the Australia of 1800. Roll Eyes

Some of those things were hardly steps forward.

Seriously? Would you care to elaborate?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74498 Gender:	Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens Reply #128 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 10:02am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 9:48am: Some of those things were hardly steps forward. which do you disagree with?
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens Reply #129 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 10:11am No, I would not care to elaborate for risk of derailing the thread off topic. But I don't think some of those were a positive step forward in my personal opinion.
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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #130 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 10:24am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 10:11am:

No, I would not care to elaborate for risk of derailing the thread off topic.
But I don't think some of those were a positive step forward in my personal opinion.

Yeah, as bad as God save the [insert royal here] is, Advance Australia Fair is the worst anthem in the world.

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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #131 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 11:14am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:19pm:

So you don't think the Greens dislike the Church and fundamentally oppose it and it's involvement in society at every turn?
That plays no role in their - yet again - opposition to a Christian message.

The Greens hate the Church. That much is clear.

Who cares if they do, Andrei. The point is why open the day with mumbles about a prayer? Do you do that in your household every day at breakfast. Damn sure it does not happen in mine!

We say a Lord Prayer on special occasions Aussie.
We try to hold Christian values in our house - no matter where we've been living.

I do hold the point though the Greens and their supporters hold an inexplicable hatred of the Church and it's tradition.

Inexplicable????

Let me explic it for ya then.
As a fellow traveller on the road of detesting organised religion, the reasons people share this view are multitude.
First, foremost, and above all else, they all promote brain dead flippin ridiculous beliefs.
They brainwash little kids. ( I really hate that)
They all expect that whole communities model their behaviours and actions upon their personal beliefs, and the silly rules that come with them.
And those are their best points.
If you want spiritual fulfillment, do yoga, or interact with good old mother nature.
The big bonus is you will have been doing something real.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens Reply #132 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 11:17am Nine pages on a Green brainfart of no relevance to anyone?
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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens Reply #133 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 11:19am St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 11:17am: Nine pages on a Green brainfart of no relevance to anyone? SOME migrants haven't a clue!
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens Reply #134 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 11:33am St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 11:17am: Nine pages on a Green brainfart of no relevance to anyone? Seperating religion and the state in a secular country does have relevance to thinking people.
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