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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #15 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:50am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:05am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 6:55am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 6:53am:

here we go again.
the "compassionate ' greens who do nothing but cry crocodile tears for the poor , sticking the boot into the "christians" who are out running all the soup kitchens, charities, homeless shelters etc etc.

breath taking hypocrisy and so much bad karma for our green brethren Wink

How exactly is getting rid of a compulsory prayer in a secular institution "sticking the boot in"? And since when does parliament run soup kitchens?

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You are no friend to the greens. Cats kill 1000's of native animals every year

Awwww - cant answer the question?

It doesnt matter who proposed the idea - its a good one. Just agreeing with one thing doesnt make someone a supporter of everything they say/do.

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Reply #16 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:53am

____ wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:07am:

Aquacoot

Removing a religious prayer from a secular workplace is not an attack on christianity.

If it is then why are you not demanding every workplace to pray at the beginning of all workday shifts.

What it shows is the greens obsession with NON ISSUES.

suburban couples (yes thats right greens...the families that make up australia) are concerned about jobs, the economy, law and order, roads, health and education.

the greens are the party of NON ISSUES

the lords prayer
gay marriage
assylum seeker air conditioning
whales
light rail for inner city numpties
The UN
hand wringing about whether john howard was a war criminal.
apologising to aborigines every 30 minutes

the list goes on...... you need to come to the footy, the local RSL and a few barbeques and try to understand what matters to REAL australians

and it AINT the lords prayer Wink

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #17 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:07am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

____ wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:07am:

Aquacoot

Removing a religious prayer from a secular workplace is not an attack on christianity.

If it is then why are you not demanding every workplace to pray at the beginning of all workday shifts.

What it shows is the greens obsession with NON ISSUES.

suburban couples (yes thats right greens...the families that make up australia) are concerned about jobs, the economy, law and order, roads, health and education.

the greens are the party of NON ISSUES

the lords prayer
gay marriage
assylum seeker air conditioning
whales
light rail for inner city numpties
The UN
hand wringing about whether john howard was a war criminal.
apologising to aborigines every 30 minutes

the list goes on...... you need to come to the footy, the local RSL and a few barbeques and try to understand what matters to REAL australians

and it AINT the lords prayer Wink

the list is endless.. but it there to take our eye s off their complete no idea policies...they dont want anyone to take a real good look at those..

lets not forget they THINK they know whats good for EVERYONE.

they believe they ALONE can CURE CLIMATE CHANGE

they think anyone AGAINST ABORTION is a SICKO.

they love PEOPLE SMUGGLERS..

aint afraid of watching PEOPLE DROWN.

want 16 year olds to HAVE THE VOTE.

I am surprised he hasnt called for everyone to pray to MECCA 5 times a day.. we know how the crawl to anyone that can vote dont we????

what amazes me. is how many greenies are there everyday when Parliament opens.. Roll Eyes

personally I dont think it would do any harm to put it back in our schools.. we can see the deterioration in behaviour since the greens came on the scene...encouraging young people to smash and bash their way through life...and chain themselves to coal loaders get their own way...

a terrific way to teach people a responsible way to get through life.. Angry

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Reply #18 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:11am

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:07am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

____ wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:07am:

Aquacoot

Removing a religious prayer from a secular workplace is not an attack on christianity.

If it is then why are you not demanding every workplace to pray at the beginning of all workday shifts.

What it shows is the greens obsession with NON ISSUES.

suburban couples (yes thats right greens...the families that make up australia) are concerned about jobs, the economy, law and order, roads, health and education.

the greens are the party of NON ISSUES

the lords prayer
gay marriage
assylum seeker air conditioning
whales
light rail for inner city numpties
The UN
hand wringing about whether john howard was a war criminal.
apologising to aborigines every 30 minutes

the list goes on...... you need to come to the footy, the local RSL and a few barbeques and try to understand what matters to REAL australians

and it AINT the lords prayer Wink

the list is endless.. but it there to take our eye s off their complete no idea policies...they dont want anyone to take a real good look at those..

lets not forget they THINK they know whats good for EVERYONE.

they believe they ALONE can CURE CLIMATE CHANGE

they think anyone AGAINST ABORTION is a SICKO.

they love PEOPLE SMUGGLERS..

aint afraid of watching PEOPLE DROWN.

want 16 year olds to HAVE THE VOTE.

I am surprised he hasnt called for everyone to pray to MECCA 5 times a day.. we know how the crawl to anyone that can vote dont we????

what amazes me. is how many greenies are there everyday when Parliament opens.. Roll Eyes

personally I dont think it would do any harm to put it back in our schools.. we can see the deterioration in behaviour since the greens came on the scene...encouraging young people to smash and bash their way through life...and chain themselves to coal loaders get their own way...

a terrific way to teach people a responsible way to get through life.. Angry

No comment on the actual topic then? Just attack "the greens"?

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens Reply #19 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:12am Yeah cods, because if greens stand for one thing, its the mining of fossil fuels.
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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #20 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:15am

Swagman wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:48am:

It's traditional. There are many anachronistic traditions in the parliament.

It's just a throw back to the very beginings of the English parliamentary democracy that we mirror.

Do they want the indigenous folk to also give up their 'dream time'?

Go suck on a sauce bottle Greens. Angry

PRIORITIES PRIORITIES PRIORITIES

when they make a call for no alcohol advertising they believe they are the first ones to come up with that idea.. Roll Eyes

tougher gun control Grin

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they have forgotten Howards gun buyback..which got sneered at.by lefties.

AND THEN THERES GAY MARRIAGE....

which seems to outshine them all.

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens Reply #21 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:20am Hey Cods, mixing medication and alcohol again?
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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #22 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:32am

Here's why it should be scrapped.
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Constitution of Australia - Section 116

The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #23 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:36am

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:15am:

they have forgotten Howards gun buyback..which got sneered at.by lefties.

Howard gun buy back was not sneered at by the lefties but by the National party members.

So get your facts right cods

Quote:

The prime minister had strong public support in the immediate aftermath of the Port Arthur massacre, especially from those people who regularly voted against the Liberal Party.The gun laws have been a source of friction between the National Party and the Liberal Party, who together formed the coalition federal government from 1996 to 2007.[citation needed] The National Party had strong support from rural voters, some of whom were opposed to the federal government's moves towards gun control. The 1996 National Firearms Agreement has been blamed for the defeat of the National Party in the 1998 Queensland elections and generating much of the support for the 1997 rise of the One Nation Party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Australia

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens Reply #24 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:49am I think it's clear to all and sundry that a The Greens and their supporters to a man dislike the Christian Church. They go out of their way to criticise it and undermine any tradition related to the Church. I find it all a little nasty they seem to hate the whole institution of the Church.
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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #25 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:53am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:49am:

I think it's clear to all and sundry that a The Greens and their supporters to a man dislike the Christian Church.
They go out of their way to criticise it and undermine any tradition related to the Church.

I find it all a little nasty they seem to hate the whole institution of the Church.

Hi Andrei,
you need to watch this video to understand why:

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #26 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:55am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:49am:

I think it's clear to all and sundry that a The Greens and their supporters to a man dislike the Christian Church.
They go out of their way to criticise it and undermine any tradition related to the Church.

I find it all a little nasty they seem to hate the whole institution of the Church.

So, attacking the Greens with unfounded accusations instead of addressing the merits of the argument? Shooting the messenger is not a refutation.

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Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens
Reply #27 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:01am

I absolutely agree with the Greens Senator on this issue, the principle of the separation between church and state, is fundamental to the democratic process.

Personally speaking, I find the use of any religious pageantry in parliament, highly offensive.
The absolute belief, of some theists, that they have the right to perform public religious ceremonies in parliament, is breathtakingly arrogant.
It is time for all religious nonsense to be held totally separate from all matters of state.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74490 Gender:	Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens Reply #28 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:08am aquascoot wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:53am: What it shows is the greens obsession with NON ISSUES if it was an non issue, why would you object so much?????
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74490 Gender:	Re: Scrap Lord's Prayer in Parliament: Greens Reply #29 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:10am good idea, get rid of it .... next thing you'll know we'll have an islamic MP who will cry out for equality and want to recite the Koran before parliament starts as well ... byt the time everyone gets through their prayers, the MP's are clocking up overtime.
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Question: Should the Lord's Prayer be scrapped in Parliament?
Yes 13 (68.4%) No 6 (31.6%) not sure 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 19 « Created by: Bobby. on: Jan 18^th, 2014 at 3:56pm »