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CRAIG "LABOR " THOMPSON BACK IN COURT (Read 12936 times)
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Reply #120 - Jan 24th, 2014 at 6:29am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 23rd, 2014 at 8:16pm:
cods wrote on Jan 23rd, 2014 at 7:46pm:
the brothel owner who said all customers must produce their drivers licence..


what a load of bollocks ... the brothel would be broke within a week if it tried to implement that sort of policy  Grin Grin Grin Grin



I am sure you would have first hand knowledge of that...
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but none the less its what he said in court.
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Reply #121 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 3:49pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 23rd, 2014 at 7:59pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 23rd, 2014 at 7:20pm:
If you want a fair and detailed report of todays proceedings in court:

http://www.independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/craig-thomson-tria...


I've read it George, and there is some intriguing stuff there.

This prosecution looks completely unprepared, scrambled, novice ~ zero direction even.  I can say from years of experience that many "not guilty" verdicts are achieved because of a technical or evidentiary failure by the Prosecution, rather than a conclusion of innocence.  They have to get their shyte together and present it in a cohesive, convincing factual fashion to the Judge/Jury to such an extent that only one conclusion is available.........guilt beyond reasonable doubt.

Proof beyond reasonable doubt on admissible evidence is what is required before conviction.  That puts a very serious obligation on the 'Crown,' and always allows defence to sit back and either attack or not..........depending on the quality, credibility, substance and clarity of what the 'Crown' has put up.

It is far too difficult to come to any conclusion out here in ether land, but I will give credit to that IA Reporter's coverage because at least he is describing....or seems to be...... all of the evidence.


The Melbourne Magistrates Court has heard that there is a matrix of evidence that shows it was former Labor MP Craig Thomson and no-one else who misused union credit cards while he was Health Services Union (HSU) national Secretary.

Thomson is charged with 145 offences over the alleged misuse of his union credit card.

In closing arguments, prosecutors told the court that masses of evidence, including receipts phone records and bank statements, show that Craig Thomson used HSU credit cards to spend thousands of dollars on escorts, brothels and pornography.

Using a specific event in Sydney in May 2005, prosecutors say records show Thomson checking into the Westin Hotel where phone calls were made from his room to an escort agency.

The court heard that $770 was charged to the union credit card later that night.

Thomson was excused from court briefly as he was feeling unwell.


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Reply #122 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 3:54pm
 
A source would be nice Mr Out of Date Man.  A 'matrix' huh.  A matrix.

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Reply #123 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 4:02pm
 
I reckon Tommo will replace the tree of knowledge as the national ALP icon, so many hookers, so little union funds, there wouldn't be a labor voter in the country that doesn't think he's a legend, at least thats the message I get from years of never having heard a bad word against him from labor swill.
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Reply #124 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 4:07pm
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 4:02pm:
I reckon Tommo will replace the tree of knowledge as the national ALP icon, so many hookers, so little union funds, there wouldn't be a labor voter in the country that doesn't think he's a legend, at least thats the message I get from years of never having heard a bad word against him from labor swill. 


If he is convicted, you'll hear from me.  Until then..............
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Reply #125 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 4:09pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 4:07pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 4:02pm:
I reckon Tommo will replace the tree of knowledge as the national ALP icon, so many hookers, so little union funds, there wouldn't be a labor voter in the country that doesn't think he's a legend, at least thats the message I get from years of never having heard a bad word against him from labor swill. 


If he is convicted, you'll hear from me.  Until then..............


Don't bother we know you have double standards   Angry Angry Angry
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Reply #126 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 4:11pm
 
woody2014 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 4:09pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 4:07pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 4:02pm:
I reckon Tommo will replace the tree of knowledge as the national ALP icon, so many hookers, so little union funds, there wouldn't be a labor voter in the country that doesn't think he's a legend, at least thats the message I get from years of never having heard a bad word against him from labor swill. 


If he is convicted, you'll hear from me.  Until then..............


Don't bother we know you have double standards   Angry Angry Angry


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Craig Thomson fraud trial: Prostitutes' witness statements reveal union official was 'regular client'
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Craig Thomson arrives at the Melbourne Magistrate Court
PHOTO: Craig Thomson has pleaded not guilty to 145 charges. (AAP: David Crosling)
RELATED STORY: Craig Thomson trial: HSU whistleblower Kathy Jackson says union 'like a cult'
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A number of prostitutes have revealed former Labor MP Craig Thomson was a "regular client" who always had a glass of champagne waiting for them.

In witness statements tended to the Melbourne Magistrates Court this evening, the escorts describe being shocked when the charges against Thomson made national headlines.

One prostitute who used the name Misty says she met the then-national secretary of the Health Services Union (HSU) on at least six occasions and provided sexual services.

"I have seen him on TV and in the media deny that he used the services of prostitutes," she said in her statement.

"He is lying and I am in no doubt that the Craig I performed a number of sexual services for over a period of time is Craig Thomson the politician."

She said she noticed he did not wear a wedding ring.

Her statement recalls how Thomson would always have a glass of champagne ready and often paid to extend her services, sometimes just to chat.

The court earlier heard there was a matrix of evidence that showed it was Thomson and no-one else who misused union credit cards.

Thomson faces 145 criminal charges of obtaining financial advantage and property by deception.

The charges relate to Thomson's alleged spending of HSU funds on brothels, escorts, pornography and other personal expenses while he was national secretary between 2002 and 2007.

He has pleaded not guilty to all charges.

In closing arguments, prosecutors told the court that masses of evidence, including receipts phone records and bank statements, show that Thomson used HSU credit cards to spend thousands of dollars on escorts, brothels and pornography.

Using a specific event in Sydney in May 2005, prosecutors say records show Thomson checking into the Westin Hotel where phone calls were made from his room to an escort agency.

The court heard that $770 was charged to the union credit card later that night.

Authority to make payments in spotlight

Thomson's lawyers have said they will not be attacking the witness statements of numerous brothel owners and sex workers.

They told the court they will instead focus on whether Thomson had the legal right to authorise the payments in the first place.

The court has previously heard Thomson had discretion to authorise union expenditure of up to $50,000 without running it past the union's national executive.

Several union witnesses, including the former auditor, have also told the court they believed there were no concrete written rules stipulating what union funds could be spent on.

No rules on spending policy

But in summing up the case, prosecutor Lesley Taylor told the court it was "self-evidently absurd" that a written policy was necessary for "intelligent, experienced union officials, particularly for Craig Thomson" as a former lawyer, to be aware that he could not use his union funded credit cards for whatever he liked.

She said if Thomson "honestly believed there was some loophole somewhere," he would not have had to "partake in subterfuge" to mask his transactions.

Documents released by the court last week show Thomson's credit card statements were at odds with some explanations he gave to the union.

On one occasion, his card showed funds had been spent at a Sydney brothel and Thomson had claimed the expense as meetings at the union's national office.

Ms Taylor told the court Thomson had also made admissions in a voluntary interview to Fair Work Australia that there was no legitimate reason for his spending of union funds on escort services and expenses for his then-wife.

She also accused Thomson of telling lies to the



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Reply #129 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:20pm
 
Aw, poor Craig, may he get, all that's coming to him!
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Poor Craig felt unwell ,, I wonder why
Reply #130 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 3:44pm
 

The Melbourne Magistrates Court has heard that there is a matrix of evidence that shows it was former Labor MP Craig Thomson and no-one else who misused union credit cards while he was Health Services Union (HSU) national Secretary.

Thomson is charged with 145 offences over the alleged misuse of his union credit card.

In closing arguments, prosecutors told the court that masses of evidence, including receipts phone records and bank statements, show that Craig Thomson used HSU credit cards to spend thousands of dollars on escorts, brothels and pornography.

Using a specific event in Sydney in May 2005, prosecutors say records show Thomson checking into the Westin Hotel where phone calls were made from his room to an escort agency.

The court heard that $770 was charged to the union credit card later that night.

Thomson was excused from court briefly as he was feeling unwell.


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Reply #131 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 3:45pm
 
Same old crap.

Does not really go to proving the case, just continuing the persecution of Thomson.
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Reply #132 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 3:47pm
 
This Thread not good enough for you? 

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Reply #133 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 3:49pm
 
You expect the rightarded to be able to read and comprehend?
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Reply #134 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 3:52pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 3:47pm:
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Thanks for that Rick Shaw boy I've posted it there too  just for you  Wink
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