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Jan 21st, 2014 at 5:05am
 
Andrews flags major welfare changes


SOCIAL Services Minister Kevin Andrews says Australia's welfare system is unsustainable and changes must be made to the disability pension and the general unemployment benefit.

A 10-year report by the Department of Human Services shows more than five million Australians received an income support payment in June 2012, with Disability Support Pension recipients hitting 827,000 and 550,000 people on Newstart Allowance.

Mr Andrews says the system needs an overhaul to bring welfare spending under control, The Australian newspaper reports.

He told the paper the government is reviewing all welfare rules to see what can be done to decrease the number of unemployed on the dole, including the possibility of eliminating the ability of those on welfare to refuse to take a job if it is more than 90 minutes from their home.

He says another proposal is for one universal welfare payment with top ups for different levels of need, but that this is a long-term option.

Mr Andrews has appointed former Mission Australia head Patrick McClure to head his review of welfare.

www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/andrews-flags-major-welfare-changes/st...
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Reply #1 - Jan 21st, 2014 at 6:37am
 

What does he want?

The revolution is coming.

I hope I live to see the fall of the elites.
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Reply #2 - Jan 21st, 2014 at 6:45am
 
Doesn’t seem to be anything there about kicking asset millionaires off the old age pension! Or removing the lurks the economic illiterate Costello put in by which the very rich can avoid tax using super, or removing corporate welfare like negative gearing and the diesel rebate.

Nah, all about extracting pennies from those who only have pennies. A lot will be done but welfare will grow.

The shambles is made up of idiots!
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Reply #3 - Jan 21st, 2014 at 6:52am
 
Nothing but scum, this lot.

They deserve the same fate as their 1930s-1940s counterparts.

And soon.
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Andrews flags major welfare changes


SOCIAL Services Minister Kevin Andrews says Australia's welfare system is unsustainable and changes must be made to the disability pension and the general unemployment benefit.

A 10-year report by the Department of Human Services shows more than five million Australians received an income support payment in June 2012, with Disability Support Pension recipients hitting 827,000 and 550,000 people on Newstart Allowance.

Mr Andrews says the system needs an overhaul to bring welfare spending under control, The Australian newspaper reports.

He told the paper the government is reviewing all welfare rules to see what can be done to decrease the number of unemployed on the dole, including the possibility of eliminating the ability of those on welfare to refuse to take a job if it is more than 90 minutes from their home.

He says another proposal is for one universal welfare payment with top ups for different levels of need, but that this is a long-term option.

Mr Andrews has appointed former Mission Australia head Patrick McClure to head his review of welfare.

www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/andrews-flags-major-welfare-changes/st...


You'd have to be another "freeloader" on the workers of Australia.

There are a lot of lazy  young mongrels living off others. True, there are not many jobs but one could make a good living just cleaning homes of the aged  if costs were reasonable.

So, no need to stretch out the hand and then go to the beach!
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Reply #5 - Jan 21st, 2014 at 7:11am
 
My first job, when I lived in Newcastle, was in Sydney - Wahroonga, to be precise. Two trains and a long walk, it took me 3 hours to get to work each day to the traineeship. It's time some of today's kids (and adults) toughened up and stopped leeching off hardworking taxpayers!
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Reply #6 - Jan 21st, 2014 at 7:14am
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 21st, 2014 at 6:45am:
Doesn’t seem to be anything there about kicking asset millionaires off the old age pension! Or removing the lurks the economic illiterate Costello put in by which the very rich can avoid tax using super, or removing corporate welfare like negative gearing and the diesel rebate.

Nah, all about extracting pennies from those who only have pennies. A lot will be done but welfare will grow.

The shambles is made up of idiots!


Those ppl with expensive houses are just as entitled to their pension as anyone else. Seriously they paid into it while they were working just like everyone else.

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Reply #7 - Jan 21st, 2014 at 7:14am
 
Don’t know who you were calling freeloader there but it is beside the point.

The old and super rich are the ones bleeding the Welfare Budget dry!

Cleaning up super, removing asset rich/income poor from the old age pension, removing negative gearing and cleaning up the FBT would easily save $75Bn a year. Moving a few off the DSP onto NewStart would save peanuts.
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Reply #8 - Jan 21st, 2014 at 7:15am
 
Andrews on ABC24 just admitted this is retrospective, it is only temporary non retrospectiive … and so cons plan to throw disabled people off the pension.


Heartless cons.
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Reply #9 - Jan 21st, 2014 at 7:24am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 21st, 2014 at 7:14am:
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 21st, 2014 at 6:45am:
Doesn’t seem to be anything there about kicking asset millionaires off the old age pension! Or removing the lurks the economic illiterate Costello put in by which the very rich can avoid tax using super, or removing corporate welfare like negative gearing and the diesel rebate.

Nah, all about extracting pennies from those who only have pennies. A lot will be done but welfare will grow.

The shambles is made up of idiots!


Those ppl with expensive houses are just as entitled to their pension as anyone else. Seriously they paid into it while they were working just like everyone else.

SOB

Was not talking of the family home.

Was talking of those who arranged their affairs so they were asset rich but income poor, then retired. They would have received plenty from taxpayers in the form of subsidies, FBT etc. They don’t pay as much tax proportionately as you or I!

And if someone is living in a million dollar home needs the Pension—let him sell their home and buy something much cheaper and live off the difference! Nothing right about the rich riding on the backs of those on lower incomes!
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Reply #10 - Jan 21st, 2014 at 7:38am
 

It will be to their detriment.

The more they kick the down and outers, the more ammunition for the opposition parties.

The dole queue is growing, as will aged pensioners (baby boomers) and when the 67 retirement age comes into force, so will disability pensioners.

I see the conservative Angela Merkel is giving pensioners a 60 euro pay rise, she knows where her votes lie. Besides it grows the economy, most pensioners spend pretty well 100% of their income. It makes sense to give them more.
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Reply #11 - Jan 21st, 2014 at 7:51am
 
Yup, would make sense to boost NewStart which has not received an increase for like forever—all that money will be spent, benefitting the economy.

Instead, the Libs will boost the GST which will depress spending—and the rich will get big tax cuts, which won’t be spent!
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St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 21st, 2014 at 6:45am:
]Doesn’t seem to be anything there about kicking asset millionaires off the old age pension![/highlight]

The shambles is made up of idiots!


And wont because your bogas statement is false. The old age pension is asset tested, you can be property asset rich and the value of the properties does not affect the old age pension, how ever any money earned from these properties are taken into consideration, it is classed as a income. So if they are earning above the thresh hold they will not be entitled to the pension.

If these properties are not earning a income and the pensioner sells the asset it becomes cash asset and likely to be over the thresh hold amount therefore they are not entitled to the pension.

Get your facts right before making shambled comments you idiot! its all on the government website.

You dick heads have this wacky bullshyte idea that asset million airs deliberately live in cash follow poverty for the sake of a couple of free hundreds a week when they can live on 10 times that.

You labor/greens are really fu*ked up.

 
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Reply #13 - Jan 21st, 2014 at 7:53am
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 21st, 2014 at 7:14am:
Don’t know who you were calling freeloader there but it is beside the point.

The old and super rich are the ones bleeding the Welfare Budget dry!

Cleaning up super, removing asset rich/income poor from the old age pension, removing negative gearing and cleaning up the FBT would easily save $75Bn a year. Moving a few off the DSP onto NewStart would save peanuts.


Im not calling anyone a freeloader and i didnt mention the "super rich" i said the ppl with expensive houses. Why should they have to move just because they got old?

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Reply #14 - Jan 21st, 2014 at 7:55am
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 21st, 2014 at 7:24am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 21st, 2014 at 7:14am:
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 21st, 2014 at 6:45am:
Doesn’t seem to be anything there about kicking asset millionaires off the old age pension! Or removing the lurks the economic illiterate Costello put in by which the very rich can avoid tax using super, or removing corporate welfare like negative gearing and the diesel rebate.

Nah, all about extracting pennies from those who only have pennies. A lot will be done but welfare will grow.

The shambles is made up of idiots!


Those ppl with expensive houses are just as entitled to their pension as anyone else. Seriously they paid into it while they were working just like everyone else.

SOB

Was not talking of the family home.

Was talking of those who arranged their affairs so they were asset rich but income poor, then retired. They would have received plenty from taxpayers in the form of subsidies, FBT etc. They don’t pay as much tax proportionately as you or I!

And if someone is living in a million dollar home needs the Pension—let him sell their home and buy something much cheaper and live off the difference! Nothing right about the rich riding on the backs of those on lower incomes!


Ppl with expensive houses worked too. Paid into the pension too. Why should they sell and move? they arent living off anyone's backs anyway. Also - not sure who you are talking about since there is an assets test in australia. And its less than a million. In fact for the disabled pension its 196k which isnt even enough for a decent house.

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