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Reply #75 - Jan 21^st, 2014 at 5:41pm

We should never have started this idiotic welfare system in the first place, tax cuts should have been used instead to provide assistance to the employed with children etc, the unemployed and disabled should be looked after by private charities and food stamps.
The compulsory super system should replace pensions for the retired also.

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Datalife Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2405 Gender:	Re: Abbott's Cons Attacking Welfare Reply #76 - Jan 21^st, 2014 at 5:42pm It is not rocket science, taxes must go up, or govt expenditures must go down. Or most probably a combination of the two and a search for efficiencies. Smaller adjustments now will be easier than larger adjustments later on when paying interest on loans is a significant and painful drain on the economy.
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Reply #77 - Jan 21^st, 2014 at 5:45pm

Datalife wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 5:42pm:

It is not rocket science, taxes must go up, or govt expenditures must go down.

Or most probably a combination of the two and a search for efficiencies.

Smaller adjustments now will be easier than larger adjustments later on when paying interest on loans is a significant and painful drain on the economy.

Quite a sizable chunk of the populace just want their freebies now and f*ck the future consequences, thats a large voting bloc the ALP can depend on, even larger if they import hundreds of thousands of unemployed reffos too.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Abbott's Cons Attacking Welfare Reply #78 - Jan 21^st, 2014 at 6:30pm Yeah—mining companies wanting to repatriate all their profits out of Australia, all those claiming the diesel rebate, those using super perks, FBT perks etc etc to reduce tax while maximising calls on public purse, negative gearing, OAP etc etc.
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Reply #79 - Jan 21^st, 2014 at 6:41pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 6:30pm:

Yeah—mining companies wanting to repatriate all their profits out of Australia, all those claiming the diesel rebate, those using super perks, FBT perks etc etc to reduce tax while maximising calls on public purse, negative gearing, OAP etc etc.

I cant help to notice your one line statement beneath your avatar............
"NBN the safeguard of our future prosperity"

You are delusional aren't you!
How could anyone take you seriously! and your a business owner? Grin

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Reply #80 - Jan 21^st, 2014 at 6:48pm

If you had a brain you would see the sense in the contents of my sig.

The NBN would help business and education—because it will be ubiquitous, redundant, reliable and of huge bandwidth both up and down. Even now it can be run out on time and on budget. When completed GDP would be boosted by about $70Bn.

When people buy 4K TVs and want 4K TV programming the FTTH NBN will be run out after all, however much the shambles resent that. Stupid rules from top to bottom in the shambles.

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Abbott's Cons Attacking Welfare Reply #81 - Jan 21^st, 2014 at 7:19pm De-registered User wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 6:41pm: How could anyone take you seriously! and your a business owner? He can't be taken seriously, according to his avatar he thinks he's a half ape / half abbott mutant with big ears too.
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Re: Abbott's Cons Attacking Welfare
Reply #82 - Jan 21^st, 2014 at 7:33pm

De-registered User wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 6:41pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 6:30pm:

Yeah—mining companies wanting to repatriate all their profits out of Australia, all those claiming the diesel rebate, those using super perks, FBT perks etc etc to reduce tax while maximising calls on public purse, negative gearing, OAP etc etc.

I cant help to notice your one line statement beneath your avatar............
"NBN the safeguard of our future prosperity"

You are delusional aren't you!
How could anyone take you seriously! and your a business owner? Grin

No—I suggest you read a few sources like Paul Budde.

Why are the rightards here such grammar ignoramuses?

Look at this sentence of murdered English:
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and your a business owner

Firstly—using a conjunction to start a sentence.

Secondly—the word “and,” incorrectly at the start of the sentence should therefor have been capitalised “And.”

Thirdly—‘your’ should have been “you are” or “you’re.“

Once I have taught you correct English usage I might worry about you mangled and incorrect logic.

In the meantime—read some reputable sources by people who know.

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Re: Abbott's Cons Attacking Welfare
Reply #83 - Jan 21^st, 2014 at 7:47pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 7:33pm:

Firstly—using a conjunction to start a sentence.

Secondly—the word “and,” incorrectly at the start of the sentence should therefor have been capitalised “And.”

Thirdly—‘your’ should have been “you are” or “you’re.“

Once I have taught you correct English usage I might worry about you mangled and incorrect logic.

In the meantime—read some reputable sources by people who know.

Idiot.

Actually I take that back, I am smart enough not to judge peoples intelligence from spelling, nor to discount a cogent argument because of spelling errors.

I also recognise that a forum is a conversational format not a proof read proposal.

And not everyone has the benefit of an education.

But please, carry on carry on correcting other people whilst making mistakes of your own. It is very amusing.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Abbott's Cons Attacking Welfare Reply #84 - Jan 21^st, 2014 at 7:59pm In the meantime, avoid making egregious errors and I might even think about your content. Everybody has had an education up to third year high school standard.
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Reply #85 - Jan 21^st, 2014 at 8:04pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 7:11am:

My first job, when I lived in Newcastle, was in Sydney - Wahroonga, to be precise. Two trains and a long walk, it took me 3 hours to get to work each day to the traineeship. It's time some of today's kids (and adults) toughened up and stopped leeching off hardworking taxpayers!

That's nothing. For my first job I had to walk seven miles, swim two rivers and climb a hill. Took me four hours there and the same to get back.

Kids today don't know they're alive.

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Reply #86 - Jan 21^st, 2014 at 9:16pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 8:04pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 7:11am:

My first job, when I lived in Newcastle, was in Sydney - Wahroonga, to be precise. Two trains and a long walk, it took me 3 hours to get to work each day to the traineeship. It's time some of today's kids (and adults) toughened up and stopped leeching off hardworking taxpayers!

That's nothing. For my first job I had to walk seven miles, swim two rivers and climb a hill. Took me four hours there and the same to get back.

Kids today don't know they're alive.

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Re: Abbott's Cons Attacking Welfare
Reply #87 - Jan 22^nd, 2014 at 5:41am

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 5:41pm:

We should never have started this idiotic welfare system in the first place, tax cuts should have been used instead to provide assistance to the employed with children etc, the unemployed and disabled should be looked after by private charities and food stamps.
The compulsory super system should replace pensions for the retired also.

There's always at least one retard who'll parrot this old saw.

Unworkable and discriminatory.

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Re: Abbott's Cons Attacking Welfare
Reply #88 - Jan 22^nd, 2014 at 6:06am

Kat wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2014 at 5:41am:

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 5:41pm:

We should never have started this idiotic welfare system in the first place, tax cuts should have been used instead to provide assistance to the employed with children etc, the unemployed and disabled should be looked after by private charities and food stamps.
The compulsory super system should replace pensions for the retired also.

There's always at least one retard who'll parrot this old saw.

Unworkable and discriminatory.

It would be a different story if they or anyone in their sphere was to be (hopefully not) in a car accident or got cancer or something and became disabled.

SOB

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Re: Abbott's Cons Attacking Welfare
Reply #89 - Jan 22^nd, 2014 at 6:22am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2014 at 6:06am:

Kat wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2014 at 5:41am:

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 21^st, 2014 at 5:41pm:

We should never have started this idiotic welfare system in the first place, tax cuts should have been used instead to provide assistance to the employed with children etc, the unemployed and disabled should be looked after by private charities and food stamps.
The compulsory super system should replace pensions for the retired also.

There's always at least one retard who'll parrot this old saw.

Unworkable and discriminatory.

It would be a different story if they or anyone in their sphere was to be (hopefully not) in a car accident or got cancer or something and became disabled.

SOB

It's all tough talk, if their disability pension didn't go into the bank they'd be screaming blue murder. The usual rhetoric, it's ok for me, I deserve it, but don't anyone else dare to try it on.

It's always those 'others' that are milking the system.

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