Leigh Sales is a crap interviewer.

She has a list of tired “gotchas” that she sticks to grimly. No matter what intriguing information an interviewee might reveal or hint out, grimly down the list of gotchas she ploughs.

So we learn nothing new or interesting.

Kerry O’Brien himself, towards the end, was indulging in gotchas, guess he was running on empty. There is a reason the 7.30 audience is about half of what it was at peak. I rarely watch it these days.

As your perfect woman you can idolise leigh all you want. As an interviewer she is hopeless!