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Reply #45 - Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:29pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:14pm:

ooohhhh, look. He is yelling.
Proves he is unsure of himself AND a bully.

hahahha, go join islam, my coward.

Look, I know you are new to this whole internets thingamajigger, but the convention is that typing in caps is yelling. What I did was highlight the relevant passage because some knuckledragger missed it the first time.

And now you know.

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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: White mans countries Reply #46 - Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:40pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:15pm: and by the way, racism is right. though you may squeal against that fact. This is not a "fact", but an opinion. The opinion of a self confessed racist. Make of it what you will. I know what I think of it and its author.
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Rubin Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 493 Darwin Gender:	Re: White mans countries Reply #47 - Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 11:28pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:15pm: and by the way, racism is right. though you may squeal against that fact. Racism in Australia in illegal that's a fact
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25018 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: White mans countries Reply #48 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 2:10am The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:38am: Do you think that makes you superior? In many ways, yes.
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Reply #49 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 2:14am

Frances wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:34am:

Noticed how white mans countries are better ?

Noticed how we are at the top of the heap ?

So Iceland is better than Japan for example?

There are 350,000 people living in Iceland. Most of those living in the capital. It's easy to spot where the social problems are in the country in such a centralised island nation. Japan has 120 million people living on an island the size of New Zealand. Japanese have a good social structure, but it's easy to become anonymous in such a large population.

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Reply #50 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:20am

I think that what is interesting here is how some people define racism.
Racism is never (in my opinion) the ability to acknowledge fact. It is when someone carries it further and uses only race to judge another person or group.
Some people seem to think that to be non racist, you have to claim everyone is the same, there are no differences.

I think it is perfectly clear that over the last few hundred years, European civilization came into its own. It flourished, there was a period of exploration, discovery, scientific advancement. It has been the white man's turn to be top dog for quite a while now.
That doesn't mean whites are morally superior. A civilized country that could allow or create the holocaust should remind us of that. Plus, most citizens are just along for the ride. They have been lucky to be born in a country where the living standards have been improving in leaps and bounds.

Because we live such short lives, we think things will stay the same virtually forever. But European civilization wasn't always top of the heap, and we live in a world that is changing. South Korea, China & India are forging ahead. Because of sheer population numbers, India's number of gifted students now pretty much equals the entire population of the USA.
It's not just about race, it is about opportunity. The African nations and some of the middle east-I can't see them having their time in the sun anytime in the next 100 or 200 years.

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Reply #51 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:50am

Peter Freedman wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:40pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:15pm:

and by the way, racism is right.

though you may squeal against that fact.

This is not a "fact", but an opinion. The opinion of a self confessed racist.

Make of it what you will. I know what I think of it and its author.

"......... self confessed......" , I am quite proud if being a racist.

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10266 Gender:	Re: White mans countries Reply #52 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 9:43am The white countries are also the only ones that "progressives" can live in. They are the most liberal, tolerate the most dissenting views, tolerate rampant anti-authoritativeness, tolerate disrespect for its institutions and customs. It would be hilarious watching them live their "lifestyle" in somewhere like eastern Turkey.
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Reply #53 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 10:01am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 2:10am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:38am:

Do you think that makes you superior?

In many ways, yes.

So what have you personally done that has contributed to the dominance of Western civilisation? Or are you just riding coat tails off the accomplishments of other people?
What gives you the right to feel superior?

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Reply #54 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 10:02am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

The white countries are also the only ones that "progressives" can live in. They are the most liberal, tolerate the most dissenting views, tolerate rampant anti-authoritativeness, tolerate disrespect for its institutions and customs. It would be hilarious watching them live their "lifestyle" in somewhere like eastern Turkey.

You've got that the wrong way round MM. It is the progressives that have made Western civilisation what it is today.

If eastern Turkey had more progressives it would be a much better place to live.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25018 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: White mans countries Reply #55 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 11:49am Gnads wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 5:59pm: Quote: Crime and disease ridden, corruption, violence, rape, etc. Sounds like Sydney & Melbourne Full of ethnics that import the problems to Melbourne.
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25018 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: White mans countries Reply #56 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 11:54am Rubin wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 11:28pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:15pm: and by the way, racism is right. though you may squeal against that fact. Racism in Australia in illegal that's a fact There is no law against being a racist. Else everyone, including the gaolers would be in gaol.
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Reply #57 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 11:59am

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 10:01am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 2:10am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:38am:

Do you think that makes you superior?

In many ways, yes.

So what have you personally done that has contributed to the dominance of Western civilisation? Or are you just riding coat tails off the accomplishments of other people?
What gives you the right to feel superior?

Oh, I wish I could tell you. Contributed ideas to the government (local) to help improve the efficiency of the country. Implemented practical ideas that have recently been adopted, and should help in the conservation and repairing of the Australian environment. Various other things, too. Plus, I'm an all around good guy that lives according to the law.

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Reply #58 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 12:03pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 10:02am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

The white countries are also the only ones that "progressives" can live in. They are the most liberal, tolerate the most dissenting views, tolerate rampant anti-authoritativeness, tolerate disrespect for its institutions and customs. It would be hilarious watching them live their "lifestyle" in somewhere like eastern Turkey.

You've got that the wrong way round MM. It is the progressives that have made Western civilisation what it is today.

If eastern Turkey had more progressives it would be a much better place to live.

Today's "progressives" are nothing like the progressives of the pre-1960s. The development of Europe and its cousin states owes very little, if anything, to the "progressives" of today.

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Reply #59 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 5:40pm

sherri wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:20am:

I think that what is interesting here is how some people define racism.
Racism is never (in my opinion) the ability to acknowledge fact. It is when someone carries it further and uses only race to judge another person or group.
Some people seem to think that to be non racist, you have to claim everyone is the same, there are no differences.

I think it is perfectly clear that over the last few hundred years, European civilization came into its own. It flourished, there was a period of exploration, discovery, scientific advancement. It has been the white man's turn to be top dog for quite a while now.
That doesn't mean whites are morally superior. A civilized country that could allow or create the holocaust should remind us of that. Plus, most citizens are just along for the ride. They have been lucky to be born in a country where the living standards have been improving in leaps and bounds.

Because we live such short lives, we think things will stay the same virtually forever. But European civilization wasn't always top of the heap, and we live in a world that is changing. South Korea, China & India are forging ahead. Because of sheer population numbers, India's number of gifted students now pretty much equals the entire population of the USA.
It's not just about race, it is about opportunity. The African nations and some of the middle east-I can't see them having their time in the sun anytime in the next 100 or 200 years.

Who gave the Europeans the opportunity? And why don't thy give the same opportunity to Africans and Muslim middle easterners?

Because it is not about someone outside a society giving the opportunities. They are created by the societies.
This is why some cultures are objectively better than others. It's not about chance or luck ('opportunity')

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