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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 96308 Gender:	Re: White mans countries Reply #60 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 6:50pm Frances wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 2:54pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:34am: Noticed how white mans countries are better ? Noticed how we are at the top of the heap ? So Iceland is better than Japan for example? How about Russia? Sprint would love Siberia - so many white people. Not many cyclists though.
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Reply #61 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 6:53pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 12:03pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 10:02am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

The white countries are also the only ones that "progressives" can live in. They are the most liberal, tolerate the most dissenting views, tolerate rampant anti-authoritativeness, tolerate disrespect for its institutions and customs. It would be hilarious watching them live their "lifestyle" in somewhere like eastern Turkey.

You've got that the wrong way round MM. It is the progressives that have made Western civilisation what it is today.

If eastern Turkey had more progressives it would be a much better place to live.

Today's "progressives" are nothing like the progressives of the pre-1960s. The development of Europe and its cousin states owes very little, if anything, to the "progressives" of today.

Is this one of your unideological posts backed up with experience, Mistie?

I’d like to enrol in creative and critical thinking. Do you think I’d be elligible?

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Reply #62 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 6:56pm

Soren wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 5:40pm:

sherri wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:20am:

I think that what is interesting here is how some people define racism.
Racism is never (in my opinion) the ability to acknowledge fact. It is when someone carries it further and uses only race to judge another person or group.
Some people seem to think that to be non racist, you have to claim everyone is the same, there are no differences.

I think it is perfectly clear that over the last few hundred years, European civilization came into its own. It flourished, there was a period of exploration, discovery, scientific advancement. It has been the white man's turn to be top dog for quite a while now.
That doesn't mean whites are morally superior. A civilized country that could allow or create the holocaust should remind us of that. Plus, most citizens are just along for the ride. They have been lucky to be born in a country where the living standards have been improving in leaps and bounds.

Because we live such short lives, we think things will stay the same virtually forever. But European civilization wasn't always top of the heap, and we live in a world that is changing. South Korea, China & India are forging ahead. Because of sheer population numbers, India's number of gifted students now pretty much equals the entire population of the USA.
It's not just about race, it is about opportunity. The African nations and some of the middle east-I can't see them having their time in the sun anytime in the next 100 or 200 years.

Who gave the Europeans the opportunity? And why don't thy give the same opportunity to Africans and Muslim middle easterners?

Because it is not about someone outside a society giving the opportunities. They are created by the societies.
This is why some cultures are objectively better than others. It's not about chance or luck ('opportunity')

That’s right, old chap. We put all that coal and iron ore in the ground years ago. Safekeeping, you see.

We wanted to stop the boong getting his hands on it.

Cunning, no?

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Reply #63 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 6:59pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

The white countries are also the only ones that "progressives" can live in. They are the most liberal, tolerate the most dissenting views, tolerate rampant anti-authoritativeness, tolerate disrespect for its institutions and customs. It would be hilarious watching them live their "lifestyle" in somewhere like eastern Turkey.

Been there, Mistie? I hear the beer’s very cheap.

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Reply #64 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:01pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:50am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:40pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 9:15pm:

and by the way, racism is right.

though you may squeal against that fact.

This is not a "fact", but an opinion. The opinion of a self confessed racist.

Make of it what you will. I know what I think of it and its author.

"......... self confessed......" , I am quite proud if being a racist.

And a New Zealander, Sprint. Don’t forget that.

Aussie Aussie Aussie.

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Reply #65 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 9:47pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 6:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 5:40pm:

sherri wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:20am:

I think that what is interesting here is how some people define racism.
Racism is never (in my opinion) the ability to acknowledge fact. It is when someone carries it further and uses only race to judge another person or group.
Some people seem to think that to be non racist, you have to claim everyone is the same, there are no differences.

I think it is perfectly clear that over the last few hundred years, European civilization came into its own. It flourished, there was a period of exploration, discovery, scientific advancement. It has been the white man's turn to be top dog for quite a while now.
That doesn't mean whites are morally superior. A civilized country that could allow or create the holocaust should remind us of that. Plus, most citizens are just along for the ride. They have been lucky to be born in a country where the living standards have been improving in leaps and bounds.

Because we live such short lives, we think things will stay the same virtually forever. But European civilization wasn't always top of the heap, and we live in a world that is changing. South Korea, China & India are forging ahead. Because of sheer population numbers, India's number of gifted students now pretty much equals the entire population of the USA.
It's not just about race, it is about opportunity. The African nations and some of the middle east-I can't see them having their time in the sun anytime in the next 100 or 200 years.

Who gave the Europeans the opportunity? And why don't thy give the same opportunity to Africans and Muslim middle easterners?

Because it is not about someone outside a society giving the opportunities. They are created by the societies.
This is why some cultures are objectively better than others. It's not about chance or luck ('opportunity')

That’s right, old chap. We put all that coal and iron ore in the ground years ago. Safekeeping, you see.

We wanted to stop the boong getting his hands on it.

Cunning, no?

From the late 18th to the middle of the 20th century Australia was not relying on coal and iron ore, yet that's when Australia was made into what it is - you stupid, stupid, grinning Paki idiot.

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Reply #66 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 11:02pm

Soren wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 5:40pm:

sherri wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:20am:

I think that what is interesting here is how some people define racism.
Racism is never (in my opinion) the ability to acknowledge fact. It is when someone carries it further and uses only race to judge another person or group.
Some people seem to think that to be non racist, you have to claim everyone is the same, there are no differences.

I think it is perfectly clear that over the last few hundred years, European civilization came into its own. It flourished, there was a period of exploration, discovery, scientific advancement. It has been the white man's turn to be top dog for quite a while now.
That doesn't mean whites are morally superior. A civilized country that could allow or create the holocaust should remind us of that. Plus, most citizens are just along for the ride. They have been lucky to be born in a country where the living standards have been improving in leaps and bounds.

Because we live such short lives, we think things will stay the same virtually forever. But European civilization wasn't always top of the heap, and we live in a world that is changing. South Korea, China & India are forging ahead. Because of sheer population numbers, India's number of gifted students now pretty much equals the entire population of the USA.
It's not just about race, it is about opportunity. The African nations and some of the middle east-I can't see them having their time in the sun anytime in the next 100 or 200 years.

Who gave the Europeans the opportunity? And why don't thy give the same opportunity to Africans and Muslim middle easterners?

Because it is not about someone outside a society giving the opportunities. They are created by the societies.
This is why some cultures are objectively better than others. It's not about chance or luck ('opportunity')

It is very much luck where you happen to have been born, or what era, for that matter.

But you ask about creating opportunities. You are right-no one outside your society is going to walk in and hand over any opportunities, you have to create the conditions within your own society. European society was aggressive, very much so in the past, but the social structure allowed for exploration, science.

The culture was right. But nothing stays the same forever and I think the culture within some other nations, Korea, China, India, Japan for eg, could see them forge ahead in the next 100 years.
We can't rest on our laurels, that's what I'm saying. Wink

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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: White mans countries Reply #67 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 11:23pm Well said, Sherri. One of the most sensible and coherent contributions I've seen in quite a while. Hope you stick around. I look forward to reading a lot more of your postings.
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Reply #68 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 12:28am

Soren wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 9:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 6:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 5:40pm:

sherri wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:20am:

I think that what is interesting here is how some people define racism.
Racism is never (in my opinion) the ability to acknowledge fact. It is when someone carries it further and uses only race to judge another person or group.
Some people seem to think that to be non racist, you have to claim everyone is the same, there are no differences.

I think it is perfectly clear that over the last few hundred years, European civilization came into its own. It flourished, there was a period of exploration, discovery, scientific advancement. It has been the white man's turn to be top dog for quite a while now.
That doesn't mean whites are morally superior. A civilized country that could allow or create the holocaust should remind us of that. Plus, most citizens are just along for the ride. They have been lucky to be born in a country where the living standards have been improving in leaps and bounds.

Because we live such short lives, we think things will stay the same virtually forever. But European civilization wasn't always top of the heap, and we live in a world that is changing. South Korea, China & India are forging ahead. Because of sheer population numbers, India's number of gifted students now pretty much equals the entire population of the USA.
It's not just about race, it is about opportunity. The African nations and some of the middle east-I can't see them having their time in the sun anytime in the next 100 or 200 years.

Who gave the Europeans the opportunity? And why don't thy give the same opportunity to Africans and Muslim middle easterners?

Because it is not about someone outside a society giving the opportunities. They are created by the societies.
This is why some cultures are objectively better than others. It's not about chance or luck ('opportunity')

That’s right, old chap. We put all that coal and iron ore in the ground years ago. Safekeeping, you see.

We wanted to stop the boong getting his hands on it.

Cunning, no?

From the late 18th to the middle of the 20th century Australia was not relying on coal and iron ore, yet that's when Australia was made into what it is - you stupid, stupid, grinning Paki idiot.

You’re right, old chap. Perhaps we should reinvigorate the logging and whaling industries, no? I was wondering when you’d suggest that.

Or opium? There’s a shilling or two in that, dear, let me tell you. Your Chinaman can’t get enough of it.

Yes, that’s what makes us objectively superior - someone inferior enough to buy the fruits of our indentured labour.

Let me play Mother. One stool or two, dear boy?

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Reply #69 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 12:33am

Peter Freedman wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 11:23pm:

Well said, Sherri. One of the most sensible and coherent contributions I've seen in quite a while.

Hope you stick around.

After the old boy lays into her, yes. New blood, you see. And female. The old boy’s going to love you, Sherri. Just don’t take it personally.

He’s a Freudian, you see. He can’t help it.

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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 8588	Re: White mans countries Reply #70 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 3:03am From a different perspective
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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85060 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: White mans countries Reply #71 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 8:23am Lols - no favouritism here (nah, hah) - but that is excellent. A picture tells a thousand words.
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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 8588	Re: White mans countries Reply #72 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 8:59am Ta humbly Mr. Grappler
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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: White mans countries Reply #73 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 5:47pm Jackness wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 5:55pm: Look at the black countries. Look at the muslim countries. Look at the ching chong slitty-eyed countries. Crime and disease ridden, corruption, violence, rape, etc. This is why I'm proud to be Australian. Are you black? If not, you are just a closet pom devoid of culture.
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Reply #74 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 11:30pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 5:47pm:

Jackness wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 5:55pm:

Look at the black countries. Look at the muslim countries. Look at the ching chong slitty-eyed countries. Crime and disease ridden, corruption, violence, rape, etc.

This is why I'm proud to be Australian.

Are you black? If not, you are just a closet pom devoid of culture.

No I am not black, Mr chingchong 2inchdick. Well thank you anyway. And you're welcome.

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