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Abbott lies about asylum seekers
Jan 24^th, 2014 at 5:52pm

Yeas, I know. This may have been placed in an existing Thread, but it does have intrinsic relevance on a tangential issue, which is the rubbish rhetoric being used by Abbot on the matter.

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"Do you believe Australian naval personnel or do you believe people who are attempting to break Australian law? I trust Australia's naval personnel," he said.

Ya see that highlighted bit. It is disgracefully incorrect, and amounts to another attempt to demonise totally legal activity.

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The claim: Tony Abbott says asylum seekers who come to Australia are attempting to break Australian law.

The verdict: Mr Abbott is incorrect. Australia recognises people's right to seek asylum and entering Australia without a valid visa is not a criminal offence.

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Abbott lies about asylum seekers Reply #1 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:15pm Tony would never tell a lie, baby Jesus would be very upset if he did.
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Abbott lies about asylum seekers Reply #2 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:22pm Dont make a new thread when theres an existing one or Aussie will come after you
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38528 Gender:	Re: Abbott lies about asylum seekers Reply #3 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:26pm adelcrow wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:22pm: Dont make a new thread when theres an existing one or Aussie will come after you "Yeas I know....." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25823 Gender:	Re: Abbott lies about asylum seekers Reply #4 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 5:57am "asylum seekers"
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Abbott lies about asylum seekers Reply #5 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 5:58am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 5:57am: "asylum seekers" Proof of otherwise?
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Abbott lies about asylum seekers Reply #6 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:39am "Do you believe Australian naval personnel or do you believe people who are attempting to break Australian law? I trust Australia's naval personnel," he said. Another cringe-worthy statement, he's almost boring in his predictability to make a complete fool of himself. Since when has seeking asylum been illegal?
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Re: Abbott lies about asylum seekers
Reply #7 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:42am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:39am:

"Do you believe Australian naval personnel or do you believe people who are attempting to break Australian law? I trust Australia's naval personnel," he said.

Another cringe-worthy statement, he's almost boring in his predictability to make a complete fool of himself.

Since when has seeking asylum been illegal?

since when have they been asylum seekers???????

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Re: Abbott lies about asylum seekers
Reply #8 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:56am

cods wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:42am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:39am:

"Do you believe Australian naval personnel or do you believe people who are attempting to break Australian law? I trust Australia's naval personnel," he said.

Another cringe-worthy statement, he's almost boring in his predictability to make a complete fool of himself.

Since when has seeking asylum been illegal?

since when have they been asylum seekers???????

Since they came seeking asylum ?

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Re: Abbott lies about ... everything!
Reply #9 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 7:03am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:39am:

"Do you believe Australian naval personnel or do you believe people who are attempting to break Australian law? I trust Australia's naval personnel," he said.

Another cringe-worthy statement, he's almost boring in his predictability to make a complete fool of himself.

Since when has seeking asylum been illegal?

Imagine how embarrassed his family must be, having to see this bumbling woman-basher make a fool of himself in public time after time.

Seeking asylum is illegal now, is it? Well done Tony, you fricken idiot Roll Eyes

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74257 Gender:	Re: Abbott lies about asylum seekers Reply #10 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 8:34am It's OK folks, Abbotts is after all, a lib ... lying is a perfectly normal and accepted way of life for libs. Nothing to see here.. Move on
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woody2014 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2044 NTH EAST VIC Gender:	Re: Abbott lies about asylum seekers Reply #11 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 8:43am John Smith wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 8:34am: It's OK folks, Abbotts is after all, a lib ... lying is a perfectly normal and accepted way of life for libs. Nothing to see here.. Move on Good morning John boy , "No carbon tax under a govement I pretend to lead
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 136431 Gender:	Re: Abbott lies about asylum seekers Reply #12 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 8:49am John Smith wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 8:34am: It's OK folks, Abbotts is after all, a lib ... lying is a perfectly normal and accepted way of life for libs. Nothing to see here.. Move on
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Re: Abbott lies about asylum seekers
Reply #13 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 8:50am

woody2014 wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 8:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 8:34am:

It's OK folks, Abbotts is after all, a lib ...

lying is a perfectly normal and accepted way of life for libs. Nothing to see here.. Move on

Good morning John boy , "No carbon tax under a govement I pretend to lead

Wink

Usual distraction tactics from the Abbott Apologists, nothing to see here.

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Re: Abbott lies about asylum seekers
Reply #14 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 8:55am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:39am:

"Do you believe Australian naval personnel or do you believe people who are attempting to break Australian law? I trust Australia's naval personnel," he said.

Another cringe-worthy statement, he's almost boring in his predictability to make a complete fool of himself.

Since when has seeking asylum been illegal?

It's also a fallacious argument. He's trying to refute the claims by saying "who do you believe?". It is not a valid refutation.

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