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Re: Truebelieverland
Reply #45 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 4:42pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 4:21pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 2:58pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 2:16pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 10:45am:

All the Lefty voters should live in one place and have their own country.

Truebelieverland.

Let's see.....in 5 minutes Truebelieverland would be broke. Executed their PM. There'd be no businesses or industry. They'd be overrun with illegal entrants. Unemployment would be 100% but they'd be collectively happy because everyone was equally miserable..... Grin

Grin

They'd soon be in their leaky boats to get to Coalition-land. But alas, the Coalitionlanders have protected their borders very well and they couldn't sneak in. The Coalitionlanders have lots of cash though because they no longer had any freeloaders to hand out funds to and so the Coalitionlanders want for nothing. A flat rate of income tax and a 25% GST pays for everything the tiny public service requires and the toughest best equipped defence force and with their arsenal of nuclear weapons and efficient domestic industries no schitbox countries dare mess with them so they live happily ever after

The end

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......... after 100 years Coalitionland annexes Truebeliverland as apparently the population became extinct......they claim Terra nullius.

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Strange how you try to accuse "lefties" of being "true believers" when its typically the "righties"that believe in the invisible entity controlling every aspect of their lives . . .

SOB

My goodness you really have a f*cked up view of the world. Left and right wing politics are separate from spiritual beliefs. In your twisted little world, every Christian/Hindu/Muslim/etc votes for Liberal and every atheist votes for Labor. How totally detached form reality can you get?

Where did i say that troll?

SOB

In the quote moron. You keep pretending that right and left is a result of belief. There are a lot of Christians and Muslims and others who vote for the left side of politics. Just as there are a lot of atheist who vote for the right. Stop being so two dimensional. In fact, two dimensional for you would be an improvement, it would show that your mind is opening. Stop being so bloody 1 dimensional with your left and right mixed with religious BS.

Yeah well perhaps you should learn to read troll. I said "typically" meaning (as you well know) the righteous ones.

SOB

But it is not typical at all. That is just you colouring things.

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Re: Truebelieverland
Reply #46 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 5:08pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 11:16am:

Imagine the public holidays: Self-castigation day, Sodomy day, Caliphate day, pick on whitey day (although, admittedly, these things would be everyday occurrences in lefty land).

This made me laugh. I mean it's choc full of Misty's hang ups and all but its cleaver. I'll pay it . (oh dear I hope misty wasn't offended by my use of the word "choc")

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Reply #47 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 5:29pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 10:45am:

All the Lefty voters should live in one place and have their own country.

Truebelieverland.

Let's see.....in 5 minutes Truebelieverland would be broke. Executed their PM. There'd be no businesses or industry. They'd be overrun with illegal entrants. Unemployment would be 100% but they'd be collectively happy because everyone was equally miserable..... Grin

Grin

They'd soon be in their leaky boats to get to Coalition-land. But alas, the Coalitionlanders have protected their borders very well and they couldn't sneak in. The Coalitionlanders have lots of cash though because they no longer had any freeloaders to hand out funds to and so the Coalitionlanders want for nothing. A flat rate of income tax and a 25% GST pays for everything the tiny public service requires and the toughest best equipped defence force and with their arsenal of nuclear weapons and efficient domestic industries no schitbox countries dare mess with them so they live happily ever after

The end

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......... after 100 years Coalitionland annexes Truebeliverland as apparently the population became extinct......they claim Terra nullius.

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On the up-side, there'd be lots of greenery (trees, etc)! LMAO!! Grin

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Re: Truebelieverland
Reply #48 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 5:39pm

Quantum wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 4:42pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 4:21pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 2:58pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 2:16pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 10:45am:

All the Lefty voters should live in one place and have their own country.

Truebelieverland.

Let's see.....in 5 minutes Truebelieverland would be broke. Executed their PM. There'd be no businesses or industry. They'd be overrun with illegal entrants. Unemployment would be 100% but they'd be collectively happy because everyone was equally miserable..... Grin

Grin

They'd soon be in their leaky boats to get to Coalition-land. But alas, the Coalitionlanders have protected their borders very well and they couldn't sneak in. The Coalitionlanders have lots of cash though because they no longer had any freeloaders to hand out funds to and so the Coalitionlanders want for nothing. A flat rate of income tax and a 25% GST pays for everything the tiny public service requires and the toughest best equipped defence force and with their arsenal of nuclear weapons and efficient domestic industries no schitbox countries dare mess with them so they live happily ever after

The end

PS

......... after 100 years Coalitionland annexes Truebeliverland as apparently the population became extinct......they claim Terra nullius.

Cheesy

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Strange how you try to accuse "lefties" of being "true believers" when its typically the "righties"that believe in the invisible entity controlling every aspect of their lives . . .

SOB

My goodness you really have a f*cked up view of the world. Left and right wing politics are separate from spiritual beliefs. In your twisted little world, every Christian/Hindu/Muslim/etc votes for Liberal and every atheist votes for Labor. How totally detached form reality can you get?

Where did i say that troll?

SOB

In the quote moron. You keep pretending that right and left is a result of belief. There are a lot of Christians and Muslims and others who vote for the left side of politics. Just as there are a lot of atheist who vote for the right. Stop being so two dimensional. In fact, two dimensional for you would be an improvement, it would show that your mind is opening. Stop being so bloody 1 dimensional with your left and right mixed with religious BS.

Yeah well perhaps you should learn to read troll. I said "typically" meaning (as you well know) the righteous ones.

SOB

But it is not typical at all. That is just you colouring things.

Yes it is

SOB

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Re: Truebelieverland
Reply #49 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 5:58pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 5:39pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 4:42pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 4:21pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 2:58pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 2:16pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 10:45am:

All the Lefty voters should live in one place and have their own country.

Truebelieverland.

Let's see.....in 5 minutes Truebelieverland would be broke. Executed their PM. There'd be no businesses or industry. They'd be overrun with illegal entrants. Unemployment would be 100% but they'd be collectively happy because everyone was equally miserable..... Grin

Grin

They'd soon be in their leaky boats to get to Coalition-land. But alas, the Coalitionlanders have protected their borders very well and they couldn't sneak in. The Coalitionlanders have lots of cash though because they no longer had any freeloaders to hand out funds to and so the Coalitionlanders want for nothing. A flat rate of income tax and a 25% GST pays for everything the tiny public service requires and the toughest best equipped defence force and with their arsenal of nuclear weapons and efficient domestic industries no schitbox countries dare mess with them so they live happily ever after

The end

PS

......... after 100 years Coalitionland annexes Truebeliverland as apparently the population became extinct......they claim Terra nullius.

Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Strange how you try to accuse "lefties" of being "true believers" when its typically the "righties"that believe in the invisible entity controlling every aspect of their lives . . .

SOB

My goodness you really have a f*cked up view of the world. Left and right wing politics are separate from spiritual beliefs. In your twisted little world, every Christian/Hindu/Muslim/etc votes for Liberal and every atheist votes for Labor. How totally detached form reality can you get?

Where did i say that troll?

SOB

In the quote moron. You keep pretending that right and left is a result of belief. There are a lot of Christians and Muslims and others who vote for the left side of politics. Just as there are a lot of atheist who vote for the right. Stop being so two dimensional. In fact, two dimensional for you would be an improvement, it would show that your mind is opening. Stop being so bloody 1 dimensional with your left and right mixed with religious BS.

Yeah well perhaps you should learn to read troll. I said "typically" meaning (as you well know) the righteous ones.

SOB

But it is not typical at all. That is just you colouring things.

Yes it is

SOB

Nope, for it to be typical, it has to be the way a majority of the people are, so unless you can show that more than 60%-75% of 'righties' are believers in "the invisible entity controlling every aspect of their lives . . .", then it's not 'typical'

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Truebelieverland
Reply #50 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:04pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 10:45am:

All the Lefty voters should live in one place and have their own country.

Truebelieverland.

Let's see.....in 5 minutes Truebelieverland would be broke. Executed their PM. There'd be no businesses or industry. They'd be overrun with illegal entrants. Unemployment would be 100% but they'd be collectively happy because everyone was equally miserable..... Grin

Grin

They'd soon be in their leaky boats to get to Coalition-land. But alas, the Coalitionlanders have protected their borders very well and they couldn't sneak in. The Coalitionlanders have lots of cash though because they no longer had any freeloaders to hand out funds to and so the Coalitionlanders want for nothing. A flat rate of income tax and a 25% GST pays for everything the tiny public service requires and the toughest best equipped defence force and with their arsenal of nuclear weapons and efficient domestic industries no schitbox countries dare mess with them so they live happily ever after

The end

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......... after 100 years Coalitionland annexes Truebeliverland as apparently the population became extinct......they claim Terra nullius.

I assume you are an Ayn Rand fan ("Atlas Shrugged"). A piece of fiction that I thoroughly enjoyed but a long way from reality.

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Reply #51 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:14pm

Ayn Rand is a total fraud.

No social security, no public health etc?

Remember the bit about the retired tobacconist in Atlas Shrugged? “I like to think of a man sitting enjoying a cigarette—fire controlled, at his finger tips” or wtte.

Ayne Rand went to Canada for free public operation on the cancer in her lung. She claimed welfare in her last years.

A fraud as well as a crap writer and hypocrite.

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Reply #52 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:29pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:14pm:

Ayn Rand is a total fraud.

No social security, no public health etc?

Remember the bit about the retired tobacconist in Atlas Shrugged? “I like to think of a man sitting enjoying a cigarette—fire controlled, at his finger tips” or wtte.

Ayne Rand went to Canada for free public operation on the cancer in her lung. She claimed welfare in her last years.

A fraud as well as a crap writer and hypocrite.

I agree with all except the 'crap writer' comment. I did enjoy the work of 'science fiction' and encouraged me to read more of her work. (Reading opposing political doctrine does not upset me

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Reply #53 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:33pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:14pm:

Ayn Rand is a total fraud.

No social security, no public health etc?

Remember the bit about the retired tobacconist in Atlas Shrugged? “I like to think of a man sitting enjoying a cigarette—fire controlled, at his finger tips” or wtte.

Ayne Rand went to Canada for free public operation on the cancer in her lung. She claimed welfare in her last years.

A fraud as well as a crap writer and hypocrite.

But that's what that ideology is about. You get everything you can but give nothing back in return. The ultimate in "greed is good"

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Reply #54 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:37pm

Cliff48 wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:29pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:14pm:

Ayn Rand is a total fraud.

No social security, no public health etc?

Remember the bit about the retired tobacconist in Atlas Shrugged? “I like to think of a man sitting enjoying a cigarette—fire controlled, at his finger tips” or wtte.

Ayne Rand went to Canada for free public operation on the cancer in her lung. She claimed welfare in her last years.

A fraud as well as a crap writer and hypocrite.

I agree with all except the 'crap writer' comment. I did enjoy the work of 'science fiction' and encouraged me to read more of her work. (Reading opposing political doctrine does not upset me

I agree. I think its a very important thing to do. For keeping your mind open and for honing your own ideas. Having said that I once vowed that I would read the Daily Telegraph once a week. I lasted 30 minutes. That is the biggest tripe, honestly I think you must have a mind of jelly to read that junk.

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Reply #55 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:47pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:37pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:29pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:14pm:

Ayn Rand is a total fraud.

No social security, no public health etc?

Remember the bit about the retired tobacconist in Atlas Shrugged? “I like to think of a man sitting enjoying a cigarette—fire controlled, at his finger tips” or wtte.

Ayne Rand went to Canada for free public operation on the cancer in her lung. She claimed welfare in her last years.

A fraud as well as a crap writer and hypocrite.

I agree with all except the 'crap writer' comment. I did enjoy the work of 'science fiction' and encouraged me to read more of her work. (Reading opposing political doctrine does not upset me

I agree. I think its a very important thing to do. For keeping your mind open and for honing your own ideas. Having said that I once vowed that I would read the Daily Telegraph once a week. I lasted 30 minutes. That is the biggest tripe, honestly I think you must have a mind of jelly to read that junk.

ROFLMAO - you will find more intellectual writings on a public toilet wall

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Reply #56 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:52pm

perceptions_now wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 3:48pm:

No matter what the true Party Political believers on both sides of Politics may believe, there is little to no truth in rumours spread by those "who believe" that one or another side of Politics is inherently better or worse than the other.

The truth is that the real test for both Political & Economic systems, is that of outcomes & not just outcomes, But LONG TERM OUTCOMES, BOTH ECONOMIC & THE HUMANITIES!

Unfortunately, most Politicians & Political Party's, over a considerable length of time, both here in OZ & in most other countries, have failed to pass this test!

A quick look at Reality shows a "somewhat" different picture, to PR slogans painted by Politicians.

In broad terms, the USA & Japan are painted as Capitalist countries, whilst Norway would generally come under Socialism, as it has major Public ownership of various major business entities & it provides considerable Services to the Public, including Medical & Retirement Benefits, But it also applies quite high Taxes.

But, the current Economic outcomes can only be described as "interesting, including a comparison to OZ -

1) Japan - 212% Debt to GDP Ratio

2) USA - 102% Debt to GDP Ratio

3) Norway - 28% Debt to GDP Ratio

4) Australia - 21% Debt to GDP Ratio

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/country-list/government-debt-to-gdp

So, the leading Capitalist countries are actually in Debt, BIG TIME, whilst both Norway & Australia actually have quite modest Debt.

But, it doesn't finish there, because Australia also has an $80 Billion Future fund, which is some 5% o its GDP, which is ok, But the big winners are the Norwegians who have a "Future Fund" now sitting around $900 Billion, which is approaching 200% of their GDP.

So, like I said, IT'S ABOUT OUTCOMES & LONG TERM OUTCOMES AT THAT!

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Re: Truebelieverland
Reply #57 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:58pm

perceptions_now wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

But the big winners are the Norwegians who have a "Future Fund" now sitting around %900 Billion, which is approaching 200% of their GDP.

Norway has a sovereign fund that is more than 1 million a person. A large part of this is because when they found they were sitting on a resource gold mine, they decided to invest the revenue from it, instead of Australia, which instead decided to give upper class tax cuts.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-09/all-norwegians-become-millionaire-sharehol...

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #58 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 7:08pm

Stratos wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

But the big winners are the Norwegians who have a "Future Fund" now sitting around %900 Billion, which is approaching 200% of their GDP.

Norway has a sovereign fund that is more than 1 million a person. A large part of this is because when they found they were sitting on a resource gold mine, they decided to invest the revenue from it, instead of Australia, which instead decided to give upper class tax cuts.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-09/all-norwegians-become-millionaire-sharehol...

Buying votes with our wealth has been going on for decades ..... unfortunately.

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Reply #59 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 7:12pm

Cliff48 wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 7:08pm:

Stratos wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

But the big winners are the Norwegians who have a "Future Fund" now sitting around %900 Billion, which is approaching 200% of their GDP.

Norway has a sovereign fund that is more than 1 million a person. A large part of this is because when they found they were sitting on a resource gold mine, they decided to invest the revenue from it, instead of Australia, which instead decided to give upper class tax cuts.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-09/all-norwegians-become-millionaire-sharehol...

Buying votes with our wealth has been going on for decades ..... unfortunately.

Very true unfortunately. I was more pointing out what an intelligent country does with a windfall, as opposed to an opportunistic one.

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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