Sparky wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 7:01pm:


I know.  Still, credit where credit's due.

Sparky wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 7:01pm:


Neither do I, other than as long as you don't bother anyone I don't care what you believe.

Sparky wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 7:01pm:


Same argument could be made for basically any culture, religion or ethnic group.  I think it's far more of a human thing than a particular ethnic thing.

Sparky wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 7:09pm:


Agreed

Soren wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 8:47pm:


An exception maybe.  I mean damn, Australia is here at the arse end of the world and STILL manages to be involved in large armed conflicts.

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 9:20pm:


Find me defending Muslim extremism.  I dare you.

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 9:20pm:


Where's this from?  I have suggested they are similar in some regards, and that often Christians criticising Muslims are hypocritical.

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 9:20pm:


Or maybe godless guys like Fred Hollows or Bill Gates?

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 9:20pm:


So how does this fit in with you supporting baby killing and genocide Pete?

freediver wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 10:22pm:


And magic flying donkey-mules, talking ants, Solomon riding on a giant carpet with all his troops and belongings, and the sun setting in a pool of murky water do?

freediver wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 10:22pm:


Because they are filled with the spirit of antichrist.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm

freediver wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 10:22pm:


Nothing terrifies Muhammadans more than evidence, as Wally1 demonstrated through his being dumbstruck and unable to reply in the History of Mecca thread.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1388067196/24#24

Here is why they are so terrified of evidence. Rather than follow Jesus Christ the Messiah of the one true God of love of the Jews and Christians - as He revealed Himself through ALL of His prophets and witnesses in His 1600 year record of revelation to mankind - whose people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years. A record that is well supported by history, archaeology and fulfilled prophecy, that is consistent with matter of fact physical geography, and can even be confirmed mathematically.

They choose to follow a violent, imperialistic, innocent Jewish farm boy beheading, captive abusing, 7th century SW Arabian desert dwelling illiterate self-proclaimed but imitation intercessor in the person of a self-proclaimed "messenger", who founded an anti-religion - with a scripture-contrary, pre-Muhammad history-devoid, archaeology-absent, geographically-impossible, reality-denying Islamic so-called "tradition" - that masquerades as thousands of years of pre-Muhammad history, yet was all created and put to the pen in the 7th to 10th centuries AD without reference to any actual historical record that preceded the 5th century AD.
An anti-religion with a carnal tradition of prostrating toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol and Kaaba in Mecca five times a day - located 1200 kilometers away from the Holy Land of the prophets and patriarchs - while praying in the "vain repetitions as the heathen do" in the names of the Arabian pagan deity "Allah" and his "messenger" Muhammad. Even performing thinly veneered Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship rituals as the Quraish did before Muhammad was ever born, and "fasting" during Ramadan as the Sabian moon god worshipers did.

freediver wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 10:22pm:


Without question Muhammad did. The reason for this is they are who scripture refers to as the "children of the flesh":

Romans 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, [are they] all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these [are] not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Isn't it interesting that they proudly boast of being of the seed of Ishmael, who was specifically cut out God's covenants?

Galatians 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he [who was] of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman [was] by promise.

So as highlighted in the "first drop of blood" thread:
answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130919141045AAsivCo
Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 3834 Narrated by Al-Miqdam ibn Ma'dikarib
Allah's Messenger (saws) said, "The martyr will receive six good things from Allah:
he is forgiven at the first shedding of his blood;
he is shown his abode in Paradise;
he will be preserved from the punishment in the grave;
on his head will be placed the 'crown of honour', a ruby of which is better than the world and what it contains;

he will be married to seventy-two wives from amongst the 'hoor's of Paradise;

and is made intercessor for seventy of his relatives."

Thus:

Sahih Muslim B 20 #4681 The tradition has been narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah b. Qais. He heard it from his father who, while facing the enemy, reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Surely, the gates of paradise are under the shadows of the swords. A man in a shabby condition got up and said; Abu Musa, did you hear the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say this? He said: Yes. (The narrator said): He returned to his friends and said: I greet you (a farewell greeting). Then he broke the sheath of his sword, threw it away, advanced with his (naked) sword towards the enemy and fought (them) with it until he was slain. (also B 19 #4314)

So is it difficult to understand why so many "children of the flesh", are so willing even to travel to fight in foreign wars, with the prospect of being killed and thus on the fast track to defiling 72 resealing virgins, in the chicken and wine serving bordello of Muhammad's overactive imagination, that he called "paradise"?
http://www.brotherpete.com/#paradise

And why parents encourage their kids to strap on suicide bomb vests, believing that they will be among the 72 family members, that he will be given the authority to intercede for before God?

Which religious leader was that? Where are the Jews holding it up as a call to Jihad?

I challenge you to find one single religious figure whose raping and pillaging efforts come even close to Muhammed's. There are lots to choose from, so it shouldn't be hard, should it?

All from over three thousand years ago?

Where are the Jews today socially, morally and progressively?

Peacefully at home trying to live a modern 21st century lifestyle.

What's important is 2014.

Today, right now, muslims are committing child sex, inbreeding, terrorism, beheading people, rape, torture and mass murder.

Each and  every one of these abhorrent atrocities are being perpetrated by muslims, who can and do, fully justify their degeneracy by citing islam, allah, muhammad and the qur'an.

islam in 2014 truly is an abomination of desolation, spiritually, morally and physically.

Oh man, compared to muslims, 1400 years ahead of islam is an understatement to the extreme.

The Jews are light years ahead of the muslims.