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Re: Sydney protests against overthrow of Morsi in Egyp
Reply #60 - Jan 29th, 2014 at 9:54pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 29th, 2014 at 7:53pm:
I most certainly would not feel affection for those who, throughout recorded history, had been murdering MY children, Y. Your god must hate such infidels.

I mean, look at them - little girls holding peace placards.

Whoever would have thought such seemingly innocent youth as these were secretly murdering  Gud’s children?

Typical. Don’t worry though - we certainly won’t be spending Eternity with them. They’ll get what’s coming, Y, I’m certain of it.

Aren’t you?





Yes it is true K, everywhere in the world where the children of the moslems go, with their messages and their placards of peace, they bring the blessings of their religion with them, to their lucky hosts.

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Many moslems here in Australia too, wanted to give all Australians a blessing, at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, on Grand Final day [a few years ago], it would have been a big firework blessing i'm told.

Such devotions of peace.

I'm sure that the moslem children would have had a peace sign for that big firework too.

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"Whoever would have thought such seemingly innocent youth as these were secretly murdering  Gud’s children? "





Google;
mcg bombing plot by 'terrorists'




And i found it funny [hilarious eh?], how the Australian mainstream media, couldn't bring themselves to associate the MCG bombing plot, with mainstream ISLAM or with mainstream moslems,
....so the Australian mainstream media just decided to refer to those bomb plotters as 'terrorists'.

That was creative of our Australian 'investigative' journalists, wasn't it!!

I mean there is absolutely nothing wrong with referring to the bomb plotters as 'terrorists', coz 'terrorists' is a good catch-all type of phrase, isn't it.




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So tell us, who is your Gud, K ?

Does Gud live under a stone ?

I'm suggesting that, coz i guessing that your Gud, doesn't like the bright daylight too much ?


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Re: Sydney protests against overthrow of Morsi in Egyp
Reply #61 - Jan 29th, 2014 at 10:23pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 29th, 2014 at 9:54pm:
Many moslems here in Australia too, wanted to give all Australians a blessing, at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, on Grand Final day [a few years ago], it would have been a big firework blessing i'm told.

Such devotions of peace.

I'm sure that the moslem children would have had a peace sign for that big firework too.

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"Whoever would have thought such seemingly innocent youth as these were secretly murdering  Gud’s children? "





Google;
mcg bombing plot by 'terrorists'




And i found it funny [hilarious eh?], how the Australian mainstream media, couldn't bring themselves to associate the MCG bombing plot, with mainstream ISLAM or with mainstream moslems,
....so the Australian mainstream media just decided to refer to those bomb plotters as 'terrorists'.







The description of a YOUTUBE video at;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jT6ldUu4-4

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"A Melbourne Muslim cleric, found guilty of a terror plot to 'blow up' the Melbourne Cricket Ground speaks candidly about his intentions. It is revealed however, that he has been living off state handouts for 19 years, and married an Australian Muslim to prevent his deportation. They went on to have 7 kids together, all funded by state handouts."


To me, that description, sounds more like a description of a destructive 'cancerous' growth, than a description of a human being.

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Re: Sydney protests against overthrow of Morsi in Egyp
Reply #62 - Jan 29th, 2014 at 10:26pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 29th, 2014 at 3:08pm:

I'm hardly an atheist, Y. I believe in Gud.




So who is this Gud, K ?

.....if you are not an atheist.
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Re: Sydney protests against overthrow of Morsi in Egyp
Reply #63 - Jan 29th, 2014 at 10:31pm
 
Oh, my god’s a football supporter,Y. I don’t think he likes these MCG bombing plots.

It’s spooky, but back in the 70s, those pesky Croatian Catholics had an SCG bomb plot. I’ll bet the Serbs had one to get the Croations. In fact, which group hasn’t made a bomb threat on a football club? We all have at one time or another.

Haven’t you?

Good heavens, my god must hate us.
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Reply #64 - Jan 30th, 2014 at 9:34am
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 29th, 2014 at 10:31pm:
Oh, my god’s a football supporter,Y. I don’t think he likes these MCG bombing plots.

It’s spooky, but back in the 70s, those pesky Croatian Catholics had an SCG bomb plot. I’ll bet the Serbs had one to get the Croations. In fact, which group hasn’t made a bomb threat on a football club? We all have at one time or another.

Haven’t you?

Good heavens, my god must hate us.




Your Gud, is whatever pleases you, K, no ?

Good luck with that.        Cheesy





Psalms 7:15
He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made.

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Re: Sydney protests against overthrow of Morsi in Egyp
Reply #65 - Jan 30th, 2014 at 4:43pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 9:34am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 29th, 2014 at 10:31pm:
Oh, my god’s a football supporter,Y. I don’t think he likes these MCG bombing plots.

It’s spooky, but back in the 70s, those pesky Croatian Catholics had an SCG bomb plot. I’ll bet the Serbs had one to get the Croations. In fact, which group hasn’t made a bomb threat on a football club? We all have at one time or another.

Haven’t you?

Good heavens, my god must hate us.




Your Gud, is whatever pleases you, K, no ?

Good luck with that.        Cheesy



No, Y. I have no god but God. I have no idea what "He" wants or commands - silence, mainly. I've been told God lies within. Seek and you shall find.

I've never found God, but I'm not giving up.

Gud, on the other hand, is a brand people consume in an attempt to fill up that silence. They work ever so hard to justify their fear and anger as an attempt to please Gud. They have all the answers and love to tell others how to follow Gud.

They think Gud lies without.

Personally, I have no idea. What I think is neither here nor there.

You're probably much smarter than me, Y.

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Re: Sydney protests against overthrow of Morsi in Egyp
Reply #66 - Jan 30th, 2014 at 8:52pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 4:43pm:
Yadda wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 9:34am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 29th, 2014 at 10:31pm:
Oh, my god’s a football supporter,Y. I don’t think he likes these MCG bombing plots.

It’s spooky, but back in the 70s, those pesky Croatian Catholics had an SCG bomb plot. I’ll bet the Serbs had one to get the Croations. In fact, which group hasn’t made a bomb threat on a football club? We all have at one time or another.

Haven’t you?

Good heavens, my god must hate us.


Your Gud, is whatever pleases you, K, no ?

Good luck with that.        Cheesy


No, Y. I have no god but God. I have no idea what "He" wants or commands ........


Here's what He commands of His people:
Mark 12:29  And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment.  31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.  32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

As Matthew put it:
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_love_of_god.htm

As directly opposed to the exact opposite in Islam's terrorist:

Quran Surah 61:4 Truly allah loves those who fight in His Cause in battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure.

Quran Surah 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them 

Quran Surah 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an.....

Bukhari, V1 B2 #24 Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle.....
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/muslim_persecution_of_christians.htm

Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 4:43pm:
........- silence, mainly. I've been told God lies within.


Once a person is born again.

John 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God

Just as prophesied by the old covenant prophet Jeremiah, of the new covenant that was ushered in by Jesus Christ:
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

God IN us:
1Corinthians 6:19  What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/temple_of_god.htm

Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 4:43pm:
Seek and you shall find.

I've never found God, but I'm not giving up.


You can ask Jesus directly, for answers. Like so many former Muslims did (their testimonies are just as valuable to help non-Muslims understand, that Christianity is about a relationship, not a religion):
http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/

Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 4:43pm:
Gud, on the other hand, is a brand people consume in an attempt to fill up that silence. They work ever so hard to justify their fear and anger as an attempt to please Gud. They have all the answers and love to tell others how to follow Gud.


The 1600 year record of revelation of the one true God, through all of His prophets and witnesses, has the answers. All a person needs to be able to find the answers is a love of truth.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm

Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 4:43pm:
They think Gud lies without.

Personally, I have no idea. What I think is neither here nor there.

You're probably much smarter than me, Y.
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Reply #67 - Jan 30th, 2014 at 9:21pm
 
Thanks, Pete. Do you have any personal experience with what your quotes say?
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Reply #68 - Jan 30th, 2014 at 9:59pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 9:21pm:
Thanks, Pete. Do you have any personal experience with what your quotes say?


Yes. I was born again in 2003. I went forward in what is referred to as an "alter call", when a preacher invites people to come forward, and devote their lives to Jesus Christ. This is a modern invention of the last 70 years or so, but I didn't know that. It stems from a far too simplistic understanding of this verse:

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

So unfortunately it has made the doctrine of repentance a casualty of what is today peddled as a "decision". Indeed in today's "church", teaching repentance is recognized by pastors, as a good way to empty out a church! Folks don't much like being reminded of our filthy, wretched, sinful nature, and our need to repent, particularly from serial sin.

Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

But it isn't our decision to begin with, but that of Jesus Christ, and in my opinion a person will only be chosen if they have a love of truth - because Jesus IS truth.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Though I wasn't taught the doctrine of repentance, I was nonetheless filled with the Holy Spirit, in spite of the simplicity of the "sinner's prayer".
Well over the following couple of months, my thoughts gradually became increasingly evil, and my wine consumption was on the increase. All of a sudden one day I realized it, and it struck me that Satan was in the process of reclaiming my life! In my desperation in that moment, it occurred to me to shout right out loud "Satan I can't wait to see Jesus cast you into that lake of fire!", and I was immediately released. Satan cannot read our thoughts, but is in tune with our words and actions, and takes advantage of us accordingly. I don't think he much cared for that reminder, and likely realizes that if he comes back, he will be in for more of the same.
As I went through the process of sanctification, without thinking about it or realizing it I became increasingly repentant, and at the same time I kept begging Jesus to give me something to do in His service.
The church I attended at the time was an eschatologically futurist church, and while I was writing about these matters on the internet, I wound up with more questions inspired by scriptures, than I could find answers to.
So I stopped and asked Jesus right out loud "What about faithful Jews in this Christian era?"
Without even thinking about the question I had asked again, two weeks later I was handed a very specific answer, to that specific question I had asked. From that moment on I was powerfully called and have been in the service of Jesus Christ ever since.

If anyone had ever told me back when I was a hippie in the 60s and 70s, or living in and of the world right on into the new millennium, that some day I was going to be a preacher, I would have laughed in their face.
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Reply #69 - Jan 30th, 2014 at 10:03pm
 
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 9:59pm:
I was going to be a preacher, I would have laughed in their face.


You have said before you don't go to church?  Who do you preach to?
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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #70 - Jan 30th, 2014 at 10:12pm
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 10:03pm:
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 9:59pm:
I was going to be a preacher, I would have laughed in their face.


You have said before you don't go to church?  Who do you preach to?


Initially to the eschatologically blinded pop-"church":
http://www.christianeschatology.com/

While increasingly being called toward the 1.5 billion people that have been tragically and horrifically deceived by THE false prophet Muhammad.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/
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Reply #71 - Jan 30th, 2014 at 10:14pm
 
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 10:12pm:
Initially to the eschatologically blinded pop-"church":


Do you consider people of certain churches (excluding those that have large differences like Mormons and Catholics obviously) Christians?  Just curious
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Reply #72 - Jan 30th, 2014 at 10:27pm
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 10:14pm:
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 10:12pm:
Initially to the eschatologically blinded pop-"church":


Do you consider people of certain churches (excluding those that have large differences like Mormons and Catholics obviously) Christians?  Just curious


The only people that are Christians are those that have been born again, as the verse I quoted earlier confirms. There is at least a remnant of regenerate individuals, even in the most doctrinally unsound institutions, including the Roman Church, LDS, Jehovah's Witness or any other cult. A person isn't saved or lost by doctrinal indoctrination, but by the condition of one's heart. Though, admittedly, some doctrines may increase the difficulty of getting there.
Rather than denominations, I find more distinct lines drawn by association.

Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Like the fruit of the anti-Zionist tree.
http://www.zionismchristian.com/anti_zionism.htm
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Reply #73 - Jan 31st, 2014 at 6:46am
 
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 10:27pm:

A person isn't saved or lost by doctrinal indoctrination, but by the condition of one's heart.



Exactly so, Pete.




So those persons who love God, and who love truth, and who love God's righteousness [no matter without regard to how they may refer to themselves, 'denominationally'], are those persons who are 'gathered' by God.






Proverbs 15:9
The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the LORD: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness.


Psalms 146:8
The LORD openeth the eyes of the blind: the LORD raiseth them that are bowed down: the LORD loveth the righteous:



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Re: Sydney protests against overthrow of Morsi in Egyp
Reply #74 - Jan 31st, 2014 at 9:26am
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 31st, 2014 at 6:46am:
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 30th, 2014 at 10:27pm:

A person isn't saved or lost by doctrinal indoctrination, but by the condition of one's heart.



Exactly so, Pete.



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