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Re: The Myth of Human Progress
Reply #120 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 9:29am
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 2:44am:
Karnal wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 7:02pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 4:51pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 4:45pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 2nd, 2014 at 12:14pm:
Which one, Mistie? You need to name names, remember?

Creative and critical thinking skills, you see.


Names eh. Give me a day or so and I'll dig them out. They're all Foucauldians to me; all a pale imitation of their master. Their specific names become a blur after a while.

HaHa: see Tanya Pliberseck give a shout out to the apparently non-existant-yet-somehow-existant postmodernists?!!?

I think she said something along the lines of, "... I know there are going to be a whole  lot of post-modernists out there saying there are no facts but anyways the fact is.."... and then she laughed at the fact she had just said fact!

Oh, I love that woman!! Such a class act all the way!!


Me too. I love the way she prefixed her reference to good old fashioned truth. That’s class alright.

Did you notice she succeeded in restraining herself from arguing with Mr News Ltd? She even joined forces with Barnaby to defend people from tabloid hysteria. She didn’t have to either - Barnaby was on the ropes.

But Tanya wanted to lay a quiet on on Rupert’s boy.

I wish she gave more but, as everybody knows - that would be political suicide.

She saved Barnaby for sure: even for him he was shocking!! She showed compassion...


She did - she showed she's more interested in the "truth" than political point scoring. I was surprised.

Poor Aquascoot doesn't know anything about Tanya Plibersec. She's one of the most popular MPs in Sydney - she'll do anything for her constituents. 

I think Plibersec's a morning person though. She always seems a bit drained on Q&A. Some politicians are energized by the presence of cameras - Turnbull, Joyce, Julie Bishop - definitely Crag Emerson.

I don't think Plibersec is one of those people.
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Reply #121 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 9:49am
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 9:29am:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 2:44am:
Karnal wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 7:02pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 4:51pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 4:45pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 2nd, 2014 at 12:14pm:
Which one, Mistie? You need to name names, remember?

Creative and critical thinking skills, you see.


Names eh. Give me a day or so and I'll dig them out. They're all Foucauldians to me; all a pale imitation of their master. Their specific names become a blur after a while.

HaHa: see Tanya Pliberseck give a shout out to the apparently non-existant-yet-somehow-existant postmodernists?!!?

I think she said something along the lines of, "... I know there are going to be a whole  lot of post-modernists out there saying there are no facts but anyways the fact is.."... and then she laughed at the fact she had just said fact!

Oh, I love that woman!! Such a class act all the way!!


Me too. I love the way she prefixed her reference to good old fashioned truth. That’s class alright.

Did you notice she succeeded in restraining herself from arguing with Mr News Ltd? She even joined forces with Barnaby to defend people from tabloid hysteria. She didn’t have to either - Barnaby was on the ropes.

But Tanya wanted to lay a quiet on on Rupert’s boy.

I wish she gave more but, as everybody knows - that would be political suicide.

She saved Barnaby for sure: even for him he was shocking!! She showed compassion...


She did - she showed she's more interested in the "truth" than political point scoring. I was surprised.

Poor Aquascoot doesn't know anything about Tanya Plibersec. She's one of the most popular MPs in Sydney - she'll do anything for her constituents. 

I think Plibersec's a morning person though. She always seems a bit drained on Q&A. Some politicians are energized by the presence of cameras - Turnbull, Joyce, Julie Bishop - definitely Crag Emerson.

I don't think Plibersec is one of those people.



do anything....like get her hubby to score them some cheap crack  Wink Wink.

look karmal, her surname is useful for scrabble but thats about it. as health minister she made roxon look good.  and thats something i never thought i'd say Wink
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Re: The Myth of Human Progress
Reply #122 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:23am
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 9:49am:
Karnal wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 9:29am:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 2:44am:
Karnal wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 7:02pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 4:51pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 4:45pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 2nd, 2014 at 12:14pm:
Which one, Mistie? You need to name names, remember?

Creative and critical thinking skills, you see.


Names eh. Give me a day or so and I'll dig them out. They're all Foucauldians to me; all a pale imitation of their master. Their specific names become a blur after a while.

HaHa: see Tanya Pliberseck give a shout out to the apparently non-existant-yet-somehow-existant postmodernists?!!?

I think she said something along the lines of, "... I know there are going to be a whole  lot of post-modernists out there saying there are no facts but anyways the fact is.."... and then she laughed at the fact she had just said fact!

Oh, I love that woman!! Such a class act all the way!!


Me too. I love the way she prefixed her reference to good old fashioned truth. That’s class alright.

Did you notice she succeeded in restraining herself from arguing with Mr News Ltd? She even joined forces with Barnaby to defend people from tabloid hysteria. She didn’t have to either - Barnaby was on the ropes.

But Tanya wanted to lay a quiet on on Rupert’s boy.

I wish she gave more but, as everybody knows - that would be political suicide.

She saved Barnaby for sure: even for him he was shocking!! She showed compassion...


She did - she showed she's more interested in the "truth" than political point scoring. I was surprised.

Poor Aquascoot doesn't know anything about Tanya Plibersec. She's one of the most popular MPs in Sydney - she'll do anything for her constituents. 

I think Plibersec's a morning person though. She always seems a bit drained on Q&A. Some politicians are energized by the presence of cameras - Turnbull, Joyce, Julie Bishop - definitely Crag Emerson.

I don't think Plibersec is one of those people.



do anything....like get her hubby to score them some cheap crack  Wink Wink.

look karmal, her surname is useful for scrabble but thats about it. as health minister she made roxon look good.  and thats something i never thought i'd say Wink


She's one of the best on the Labor front bench, and she beats most in the Libs hands down.

I don't know what you mean about her short stint as health minister. Maybe you know something I don't.

Unfortunately, names don't count in Scrabble. If they did, crack-dealing hubby Couts-Trotter would be worth a few points too.
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Reply #123 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 11:36am
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 7:03am:
Karnal wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 7:02pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 4:51pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 4:45pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 2nd, 2014 at 12:14pm:
Which one, Mistie? You need to name names, remember?

Creative and critical thinking skills, you see.


Names eh. Give me a day or so and I'll dig them out. They're all Foucauldians to me; all a pale imitation of their master. Their specific names become a blur after a while.

HaHa: see Tanya Pliberseck give a shout out to the apparently non-existant-yet-somehow-existant postmodernists?!!?

I think she said something along the lines of, "... I know there are going to be a whole  lot of post-modernists out there saying there are no facts but anyways the fact is.."... and then she laughed at the fact she had just said fact!

Oh, I love that woman!! Such a class act all the way!!


Me too. I love the way she prefixed her reference to good old fashioned truth. That’s class alright.

Did you notice she succeeded in restraining herself from arguing with Mr News Ltd? She even joined forces with Barnaby to defend people from tabloid hysteria. She didn’t have to either - Barnaby was on the ropes.

But Tanya wanted to lay a quiet on on Rupert’s boy.

I wish she gave more but, as everybody knows - that would be political suicide.



NOOOOOOOO karmal, i enjoy reading your posts but PLEASE take back any comments praising Miss Plibosek. 
If you look up condescending , up herself , lecturing, hypocritical, manipulative bitch in the dictionary, there you will find a picture of Miss Tanya.

Barnaby may not have the gift of the gab , but he is authentic.
She is the very definition of a phoney.

F minus,  pathetic karmal, just pathetic

Barnaby aint authentic: his performance was not only very odd but very fake! Typical country boy hot-shot shyster!!
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Reply #124 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:21pm
 
many blessings ,

human progress you say ?

explain this...



Big Money Is Feeding Us Plastic

Published on Feb 4, 2014
Vani "The Food Babe" Hari discovered that Subway makes bread with an ingredient called azodicarbonamide. It can be found in almost all the breads at Subway restaurants here in North America, but not in Europe, Australia or other parts of the world.

http://foodbabe.com/2013/09/23/are-you-eating-this-ingredient-banned-all-over-th...

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FOOD BABE TV: Are You Eating This Ingredient Banned All Over The World?
By Food Babe



Azodicarbonamide 101
Azodicarbonamide is a yellow orangish powder, more commonly used commercially in the creation of foamed plastics – like yoga mats, shoe soles, floor mats and window gaskets.
The FDA allows food companies to use azodicarbonamide as a flour bleaching agent and dough conditioner in any food product giving it a status of GRAS or “Generally Regarded As Safe”.
But, the FDA doesn’t even keep track of the companies who use azodicarbonamide as an ingredient. The lack of information leads the FDA to not update or include an toxicity information about this ingredient in its EAFUS or “Everything Added to Food in the United States” database.
When a truck carrying azodicarbonamide overturned on a Chicago highway in 2001, it prompted city officials to issue the highest hazardous materials alert and evacuate people within a half mile radius! Many of the people on the scene complained of burning eyes and skin irritation as a result. (Source: Pandora’s Lunchbox by Melanie Warner)
The U.K. has recognized azodicarbonamide as a potential cause of asthma if inhaled, and advises against its use in people who have sensitivity to food dye allergies and other common allergies in food, because it can exacerbate the symptoms.
The World Health Organization (WHO) studied azodicarbonamide, and also linked it to asthma and other allergic reactions.
When azodicarbonamide partially degrades with the heat of processing, it forms trace amounts of semicarbazide, which shows carcinogenicity that can result in tumors over time.
The United States is one of the only countries in the world that still allows this ingredient in our food supply. It is banned as a food additive in the U.K., Europe, and Australia, and if you get caught using it in Singapore you can get up to 15 years in prison and be fined $450,000. I’d like to see the head of the FDA put in jail for allowing it, wouldn’t you?

Popular Products That Contain Azodicarbonamide
Sara Lee (many of their breads, bagels, etc.)

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These are just a few examples, but there are many more companies that use azodicarbonamide in their products (Pizza Hut, Publix Grocery Store, Jason’s Deli, etc)

Why The Heck Are Companies Using This Ingredient?
Dough conditioners allow companies to pass off chemically processed cheap food as “freshly baked” because it recreates perfect, evenly packed air pockets within the dough, improving the texture after coming out of large industrial machines from processing. If a company uses azodicarbonamide as a flour bleaching agent it speeds up the processing, making bread larger and whiter than normal. Faster processing with cheaper ingredients = more money in Big Food pockets.

The Next Time You See Your Friends or Family, Ask Them:

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Remember to buy organic bakery goods that prohibit the use of highly questionable chemical ingredients like azodicarbonamide and other dough conditioners. Please spread the word and share this video with everyone you know… no one should be eating yoga mats, their shoe sole or a floor mat. Yuck.
Till next time…

Food Babe

im interested in what you are eating

namaste

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Reply #125 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:23pm
 
Whats the LD50 for azodicarbonamide
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Reply #126 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:27pm
 
Mmm not sure when the last time I half a kilo of azodicarbonamide or placed 50 grams of it on my skin or even inhaled bread.
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Reply #127 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:28pm
 
many blessings

the message has been delivered

carry on regardless

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Reply #128 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:30pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:28pm:
many blessings

the message has been delivered

carry on regardless

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What? That the food babe has no f***ing idea what she is talking about?
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Reply #129 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:35pm
 
many blessings ,

" When a truck carrying azodicarbonamide overturned on a Chicago highway in 2001, it prompted city officials to issue the highest hazardous materials alert and evacuate people within a half mile radius! Many of the people on the scene complained of burning eyes and skin irritation as a result. (Source: Pandora’s Lunchbox by Melanie Warner) "

and you are fine eating this toxic substance?

one such as I am does not need your approval

or limp wristed ignorance to inform beings

whom prefer to eat non toxic foods..

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Reply #130 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:38pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:35pm:
many blessings ,

" When a truck carrying azodicarbonamide overturned on a Chicago highway in 2001, it prompted city officials to issue the highest hazardous materials alert and evacuate people within a half mile radius! Many of the people on the scene complained of burning eyes and skin irritation as a result. (Source: Pandora’s Lunchbox by Melanie Warner) "

be at peace

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I'm guessing that food babe has no qualis in chemistry otherwise she would know theres a vast difference in being exposed to highly concentrated forms of any chemical and highly diluted forms of any chemical.

E.g. we drink chlorinated water all the time because the water dilutes the chlorine. However we do not drink more concentrated forms.
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Reply #131 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:38pm
 
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It is banned as a food additive in the U.K., Europe, and Australia


That is nice to know -
at least we aren't eating it.
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Reply #132 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:42pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:38pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:35pm:
many blessings ,

" When a truck carrying azodicarbonamide overturned on a Chicago highway in 2001, it prompted city officials to issue the highest hazardous materials alert and evacuate people within a half mile radius! Many of the people on the scene complained of burning eyes and skin irritation as a result. (Source: Pandora’s Lunchbox by Melanie Warner) "

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I'm guessing that food babe has no qualis in chemistry otherwise she would know theres a vast difference in being exposed to highly concentrated forms of any chemical and highly diluted forms of any chemical.

E.g. we drink chlorinated water all the time because the water dilutes the chlorine. However we do not drink more concentrated forms.


may blessings your ignorance shines through ,

I and many other beings do not absorb

chlorinated water so you overstep your understanding

and presume everyone drinks and eats the same slop

as you do ..

this is not so dear one ...

your altered state of awareness is now validated

as you admit you eat and drink rubbish

and are quite fine with that ... so be it

however

others can and do eat foods full with life force

living foods and drink fresh clean water .

without approvals or permissions

you are forgiven

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Reply #133 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:44pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:38pm:
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It is banned as a food additive in the U.K., Europe, and Australia


That is nice to know -
at least we aren't eating it.


many blessings ,

you misinterpret the data .

Australians are eating it

one such as I am would suggest research

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Reply #134 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:44pm
 
Plus upon further reading, theres something else Foodbabe is not saying. I guess because shes an idiot.

When azodicarbonamide is put into bread hen azodicarbonamide reacts with flour, it behaves as a hydrogen acceptor and it is rapidly and completely converted into biurea, which is stable under baking conditions. Reaction between azodicarbonamide and flour only occurs on wetting. Forty-five minutes after treatment
of a flour with 8.25 ppm of azodicarbonamide, less than 0.1 ppm of azodicarbonamide could be detected in the dough. When 14C-labelled azodicarbonamide was used for breadmaking, the activity remained in the bread and there was no liberation of labelled carbon dioxide.


In other words, even accounting for the low dose of azidocarbonamide put it into bread, it very quickly decomposes into another chemical anyway and before its ingested. And being urea, our body very quickly excretes through the urine.
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