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Jaqs Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 337 Gender:	Change in Diet... Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:19am Hi folk. I have recently given up eating all meat and chicken (but I eat fish)... It's been three weeks and I feel great! So much more energy. Are their any others of you who don't eat meat? Also I wonder if I can expect some weight loss? That would be nice though not the reason for the change in diet.
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Reply #1 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:29am

Good luck with that, Jaqs. I hope it's not permanent.

To my mind there's nothing more wasteful of life's innocent enjoyments than for someone to relinquish the tasty pleasures of all the protein meals.

My niece has denied herself years of cullinary pleasure by sticking to a vegetarian diet.

Very tragic, and hugely wasteful of many hours of yummy enjoyment.

When the undergraduate vegetarian fad becomes a life-long obsession, then you have a patient on your hands. A very stubborn patient.

I hope you get over this quickly.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Change in Diet... Reply #2 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:55am My sister drank that foul soy “milk” for years and gave herself osteoporosis She is vegetarian now for a few years, has a whole shelf of supplements Some vegetarian meals a week are fine but why deprive yourself of protein? Bacon and eggs hmmmmm!
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Reply #3 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:57am

Cheers Herbert. I've been slowly giving up meat over a period of time and my most recent decision was to give up chicken as well.

It's a long term plan! I've never enjoyed eating animals.
Though I do still enjoy fish. I also eat free range eggs.

Todays lunch is steamed silverbeet and courgettes (from my garden) and red cod - cooked in the microwave.

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Jaqs Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 337 Gender:	Re: Change in Diet... Reply #4 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:04am Hey George. I guess because I eat fish I'm not a vegetarian? Not sure of the rules! But eat plenty of good stuff.
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Reply #5 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:11am

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:55am:

My sister drank that foul soy “milk” for years and gave herself osteoporosis Cheesy

She is vegetarian now for a few years, has a whole shelf of supplements Cheesy

Some vegetarian meals a week are fine but why deprive yourself of protein? Bacon and eggs hmmmmm!

It's actually pretentious nonsense. It's a cult. It's a fad. It's a bit of a "Look at moi! Look at moi!" cry for help about personal problems that have nothing to do with food.

(Not you, Jaqs. The stereo-type doesn't apply to everyone).

The psychology of our eating habits and preferences is often a window upon our sex lives. In psycho-analytical terms it's a cousin of body-language analysis.

If a man has a craving for Hot Dogs, this should ring alarm bells with his wife or girlfriend. Donuts too. Bearded mussels are ok though.

The symbolism is obvious and disgusting.

I always avert my eyes whenever I enter a public eating place like Maccas or a shopping mall 'Food Hall', or God forbid, the cafeteria of a psychiatric hospital. Roll Eyes

What's on people's plate reveals so much about them to the trained eye.

Those backyard barbecues where the boyz gather in a tight knot around the grill where rows of pork sausages are being rotated slowly with loving care ... ?

Say no more.

Next time you make a meal for yourself and put it on a plate ... be afraid ... be VERY afraid at what you may see there. The content AND the Rorschart patterns can be very disturbing.

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Reply #6 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:29am

My thing is more to do with me being an animal lover, and rescue worker. Eating animals just doesn't sit well in my conscience anymore. Right or wrong, it's how I feel so I've decided to make the change.

I feel hypocritcal eating fish but so be it. I also eat free range eggs and dairy product. Full cream milk! Love the stuff. So really the change is just giving up chicken and meat.

Soy milk!!!!! Yuck! Disgusting taste imo.

As for Iron I have regular iron injections so given I'm monitored, I doubt my iron will drop too low. The only supplement I take in my diet is flaxseed oil.

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Reply #7 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:31am

It's pescatarianism when you eat fish but not meat.

I eat a lot of lean meat, but mindfully. There is some kind of fish or meat in my meals at least a couple of times a day - more if you count eggs. I eat 6 small meals a day.

If I were you, I'd make sure I was eating lots of legumes and leafy greens. Possibly taking a supplement as well.

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: Change in Diet... Reply #8 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:33am Just saw your other post about iron. Flaxseed is great. You can throw them in a smoothie in the morning for breakfast. Yum.
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Jaqs Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 337 Gender:	Re: Change in Diet... Reply #9 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:36am Wow a new word! Cheers Annie. I think lots of people call themselves vegetarians just because they don't eat red meat. My mum eats chicken and still calls herself vegetarian! I can give myself a new label now! Pescatarian! Cool!
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Change in Diet... Reply #10 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:47am One way of increasing iron is via drinking orange juice while eating spinach. Vit C helps to unlock the iron. I went vego the same way as you, red meat, then chicken, then seafood, then eggs. Ebb and flow with eggs … i.e via cake. Certainly a lot cheaper financially not consuming carcass.
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Reply #11 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:56am

Jaqs wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:19am:

Hi folk. I have recently given up eating all meat and chicken (but I eat fish)...

Pescatarianism. Good move.

It's been three weeks and I feel great! So much more energy. Are their any others of you who don't eat meat?

More energy is one of the (many) benefits.

Also I wonder if I can expect some weight loss? That would be nice though not the reason for the change in diet.

You should lose weight, as long as you don't try to replace the meat with something else. As long as you eat a balanced diet, there's no need to go filling your cupboards with lentils and soy beans. And no, a balanced diet does not have to include red meat and chicken.

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Jaqs Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 337 Gender:	Re: Change in Diet... Reply #12 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:56am I am surprised actually at how many people don't eat red meat. Greens did you notice a weight change after giving up meat? I'm 49 (coming up 50) and at that age when weight can creep on! So I am hoping the diet change will benefit in some weight loss as well. I certainly won't be doing a drive though at macca's etc anymore!
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Reply #13 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:57am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:56am:

Jaqs wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:19am:

Hi folk. I have recently given up eating all meat and chicken (but I eat fish)...

Pescatarianism. Good move.

It's been three weeks and I feel great! So much more energy. Are their any others of you who don't eat meat?

More energy is one of the (many) benefits.

Also I wonder if I can expect some weight loss? That would be nice though not the reason for the change in diet.

You should lose weight, as long as you don't try to replace the meat with something else. As long as you eat a balanced diet, there's no need to go filling your cupboards with lentils and soy beans. And no, a balanced diet does not have to include red meat and chicken.

Cheers! I will keep you all informed of my progress over the coming months and look forward to your encouragement!
Thanks!

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Reply #14 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 10:09am

Jaqs wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:56am:

I am surprised actually at how many people don't eat red meat.

Greens did you notice a weight change after giving up meat? I'm 49 (coming up 50) and at that age when weight can creep on! So I am hoping the diet change will benefit in some weight loss as well. I certainly won't be doing a drive though at macca's etc anymore!

Avoid the temptation of having more bread, pasta, or rice etc. in place of the meat. That's a trap many vegetarians fall into, and they can quite often end up gaining weight.

If you do want to increase the size of your meal, it's better to add more vegetables, or drink a large glass of water first (a bit boring, I know).

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