Jaqs wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:29am:
 

You've got it from the wrong end, or the wrong way round ~ whichever applies.

The reason we have as many cows and sheep alive in the fields today is because we eat them. Otherwise there would be less an 10% of what is alive today, as scrub bulls and wild goats. 

Millions of sheep and cattle are enjoying their lives today only because they are destined for the dinner table.

Same with chickens and pigs.

The moral of the story is that you have to eat cows, sheep, pigs and chickens in order to save them. 

It's like in Vietnam where they had to destroy a village in order to save it.

I hope that's cleared it up for you, Jaqs.

You can now return to a meat diet with a clear conscience.   

I used to live by that theory Herbert.  But not anymore.  The slaughter is not worth the short life. Chickens especially have it bad and interestingly enough often people will eat chicken and not read meat.

Anyway don't wish to turn this discussion that way.  Hence I was a little reluctant to give my reasons for changing diet.

Lets keep it on the diet options and some good ideas on cooking vege options.

Hey that sounds yum!
Might try that tomorrow.

I usually cook fish in the oven on bake - wrapped in foil with a few slices of onion, a bit of lemon and dill.

But today I cooked it in the microwave.

Jaqs wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:19am:


I've lived on a pescetarian diet for the past 8 years or so. My main reason has also been health. I feel much better on it. Meat always used to make me feel "dull". I had more of an "edge" in life when I stopped, and I felt years younger with more energy.  You can get plenty of protein from fish and even legumes.

I don't think it's for everyone, but I benefited from it, and my son's partner said the same. She felt sick when she went back to meat for a while and is much happier (and focused) these days on her pescatarian diet.

By pescetarian, I mean all seafood.  I don't know why anyone would eat tilapia or cod though. I prefer reef fish.  Australian fish is generally far superior to European.   10 minutes simmered in milk would be overcooked for me but it comes down to individual preference.

If you like spicy food, get yourself a packet of Thai fish cakes from the Thai or Asian supermarket.  It costs $15 but will last quite a while if frozen. I much prefer that to any "not burgers" or other soy based products. The only soy product I like to eat a lot is tempeh. You can cut it thin and grill or oven bake it to a crisp. Nice with soy sauce - tastes like crispy bacon.

On a pescetarian diet, you still have to use common sense. Oily chips and fried fish don't really do much for you.  Some people can have perfectly healthy diets which include meat too. I'm just not one of them.

... wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 7:58pm:


Not me!  I'm not an expert!  I'm here for advice and encouragement and reading these posts has been helpful!

Jaqs wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 2:10pm:


Has it?

What results has this advice led to?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:56am:


Why would a meatless diet result in more energy? Sounds like a placebo to me.
I would expect the opposite unless you were careful about replacing the protein you are missing out on.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:



OK.......but why would you have MORE energy?