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Reply #45 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 9:07am
 
... wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:59pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:17pm:
Why would a meatless diet result in more energy?

... wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:57pm:
because it takes more energy to digest red meat than fish, whiet meat and veegatbles. 




That is a myth. Things like legumes, broccoli, potato and pasta are harder to digest than meat. Why do you think that cows have 4 stomachs and basicly have to spend their whole waking hours eating?

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Reply #46 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 9:37am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:51pm:
My point being that the food gets digested according to your metabolic rate. Whereas cutting out red meat from your diet isn't going to help with your weight loss. It's the fat content with which that you should be concerned.



Cutting out red meat from your diet certainly will help with weight loss, as long as it isn't replaced by anything.

That's the mistake many people make: they cut out red meat but then fill up their plate with something else (an extra potato, or another bread roll, for example.)

The average person doesn't need as much protein as they think.

Beans, nuts, vegetables, and grains will do the job.


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Reply #47 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 10:28am
 
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The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 9:07am:
... wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:59pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:17pm:
Why would a meatless diet result in more energy?

... wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 3:57pm:
because it takes more energy to digest red meat than fish, whiet meat and veegatbles. 




That is a myth. Things like legumes, broccoli, potato and pasta are harder to digest than meat. Why do you think that cows have 4 stomachs and basicly have to spend their whole waking hours eating?



Cows don't eat legumes broccoli potato or pasta, nor do they cook their food.  And only 1 of those is a vegetable - one noted for its fibre content.

If you didn't want to know the answer, why did you ask the question?
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Reply #48 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 10:31am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:51pm:
My point being that the food gets digested according to your metabolic rate. Whereas cutting out red meat from your diet isn't going to help with your weight loss. It's the fat content with which that you should be concerned.


I wasn't talking about weight loss.  The question was why would cutting out red meat (feel like) you have more energy.

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Reply #49 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 2:22pm
 
I don't know the answer to that but I can say that I  certainly feel like I have more energy and I have always found red meat hard to digest.  (I've had two lots of stomach surgery - which might add to the problem)... but that aside, I'm enjoying the change in diet.  I don't eat a lot of beans etc... More fresh fruit and vege with it being summer.  I'm not bloated at night like usual.

My main motive is not for weight loss, but I was keen to know if others experienced weight loss with this type of diet. 


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Reply #50 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 2:27pm
 
Im on the green smoothie thing. Green smoothie for breakfast, made up of kale, ginger and blueberries with protein  powder. Never had so much energy, Im an athlete so really feel the difference in energy levels, also body fat percentage has decresaed dramatically without losing any muscle mass, I have maintained the same weight but waist size has gone down a couple of notches. still eat plenty of red meat though, tried cutting it out years ago and felt very weak without it.
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Reply #51 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 12:39pm
 
ian wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 2:27pm:
Im on the green smoothie thing. Green smoothie for breakfast, made up of kale, ginger and blueberries with protein  powder. Never had so much energy, Im an athlete so really feel the difference in energy levels, also body fat percentage has decresaed dramatically without losing any muscle mass, I have maintained the same weight but waist size has gone down a couple of notches. still eat plenty of red meat though, tried cutting it out years ago and felt very weak without it.



What do you use?  A NutriBullet?  Any good?
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Reply #52 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 10:30am
 
Here's some nice ways to enjoy a variety of healthy water drinks.


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Reply #53 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 10:33am
 
Yesterday I added:  lemon, cucumber, watermelon and mint.  Left it overnight and it has a spicy taste.

Refreshing and healthy! 

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Reply #54 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 6:34pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 9:37am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:51pm:
My point being that the food gets digested according to your metabolic rate. Whereas cutting out red meat from your diet isn't going to help with your weight loss. It's the fat content with which that you should be concerned.



Cutting out red meat from your diet certainly will help with weight loss, as long as it isn't replaced by anything.

That's the mistake many people make: they cut out red meat but then fill up their plate with something else (an extra potato, or another bread roll, for example.)

The average person doesn't need as much protein as they think.

Beans, nuts, vegetables, and grains will do the job.


that's because after they eat their salad they are still fricken starving...

get a bit of meat into your guts and you'll feel satisfied and full...

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people always "crap on" about a "balanced" diet...

just eat a balanced diet...

but never tell you what this is...

sure a balanced diet is what everyone should have but its the "amount" most people stuff up...

they load their plates up with mountains of a "balance diet"....

so this is where they go wrong...

its the "AMOUNT" .....

you need to learn how many calories is in everything you eat and then adjust the amount you eat....

but how many calories can you have a day?

depends on how many you burn in a day and how active you are....

if you know this then keeping to an amount of calories is easy...

meat... have 100 grams (cooked) a day
chicken 125 grams cooked

which is probably half the amount what people usually have...

I use a fitbit to keep an eye on how many calories I burn... my calorie intake is under 2000 a day and I average around burning 2500 or higher...

weigh everything you eat and work out how many calories there is in the food you eat...

this will teach you what the amount of each food looks like... after a few meals with 125 grams of chicken you get to tell what aprox 125 grams looks like... what 50 grams of mixed vegetables looks like... etc etc

my biggest problem is weekends...  Sad

low activity and a higher calorie intake...  Roll Eyes


I can lose a kilogram in a week but put it back on again over a weekend... vicious circle... but at least I know what to do to turn this around...

I have lost 3kg since xmas...

go me...  Smiley

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this is one of my awards...  Smiley

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Reply #55 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 7:03pm
 
True Blue... wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 6:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 9:37am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:51pm:
My point being that the food gets digested according to your metabolic rate. Whereas cutting out red meat from your diet isn't going to help with your weight loss. It's the fat content with which that you should be concerned.



Cutting out red meat from your diet certainly will help with weight loss, as long as it isn't replaced by anything.

That's the mistake many people make: they cut out red meat but then fill up their plate with something else (an extra potato, or another bread roll, for example.)

The average person doesn't need as much protein as they think.

Beans, nuts, vegetables, and grains will do the job.



people always "crap on" about a "balanced" diet...

just eat a balanced diet...

but never tell you what this is...

sure a balanced diet is what everyone should have but its the "amount" most people stuff up...

they load their plates up with mountains of a "balance diet"....

so this is where they go wrong...

its the "AMOUNT" .....

you need to learn how many calories is in everything you eat and then adjust the amount you eat....

but how many calories can you have a day?

depends on how many you burn in a day and how active you are....

if you know this then keeping to an amount of calories is easy...

meat... have 100 grams (cooked) a day
chicken 125 grams cooked

which is probably half the amount what people usually have...

I use a fitbit to keep an eye on how many calories I burn... my calorie intake is under 2000 a day and I average around burning 2500 or higher...

weigh everything you eat and work out how many calories there is in the food you eat...

this will teach you what the amount of each food looks like... after a few meals with 125 grams of chicken you get to tell what aprox 125 grams looks like... what 50 grams of mixed vegetables looks like... etc etc

my biggest problem is weekends...  Sad

low activity and a higher calorie intake...  Roll Eyes


I can lose a kilogram in a week but put it back on again over a weekend... vicious circle... but at least I know what to do to turn this around...

I have lost 3kg since xmas...

go me...  Smiley




Yep, I agree with most of that.

Portion size is critical.

100 to 150g of meat in a serving is more than enough.

However, many people have more like 200 to 300g per serving: too much.

Using smaller plates is another effective way of reducing portion sizes.


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Reply #56 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 9:45am
 
Eggs and Capsicums!!!!  Yummy!
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Reply #57 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 7:46pm
 
top right picture.. whats that under the egg?

and what sort of pan did you use?
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Reply #58 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:32pm
 
I was vegetarian for ten years or more.  I did eat eggs and dairy, but no meat, poultry or fish.  I'm not sure how it started, but I think it was a combination of concerns over animal welfare and an interest in Eastern philosophies and religions (I was actually seriously considering converting to Buddhism for a while but didn't).

It was an overseas holiday that was the undoing of it all.  I was staying for three weeks in a town that had a working fishing harbour.  I was about four houses from the harbour and next door to a very popular fish and chip shop.  Not only that, but every afternoon, the air at that end of town filled with the aroma of smoking fish.  I ended up eating fish at least every second day.

When I got back to Australia, I suppose my resolve had weakened somewhat and, one day, I had this sudden urge to have bacon and eggs (bacon was the only meat I had really missed eating in all that time) and it wasn't long before meat had found its way back into my diet, although for some reason I have totally lost any desire to eat poultry.

Nowadays I would have meat maybe twice a week, fish maybe three times a week.  I can't say that I feel much different, although I've been told that my skin colour is better than it used to be when I was vegetarian.  I also find that I love cooking meat (perhaps more so than actually eating it).
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Reply #59 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 9:06pm
 
Frances wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:32pm:
I was vegetarian for ten years or more.  I did eat eggs and dairy, but no meat, poultry or fish.  I'm not sure how it started, but I think it was a combination of concerns over animal welfare and an interest in Eastern philosophies and religions (I was actually seriously considering converting to Buddhism for a while but didn't).

It was an overseas holiday that was the undoing of it all.  I was staying for three weeks in a town that had a working fishing harbour.  I was about four houses from the harbour and next door to a very popular fish and chip shop.  Not only that, but every afternoon, the air at that end of town filled with the aroma of smoking fish.  I ended up eating fish at least every second day.

When I got back to Australia, I suppose my resolve had weakened somewhat and, one day, I had this sudden urge to have bacon and eggs (bacon was the only meat I had really missed eating in all that time) and it wasn't long before meat had found its way back into my diet, although for some reason I have totally lost any desire to eat poultry.

Nowadays I would have meat maybe twice a week, fish maybe three times a week.  I can't say that I feel much different, although I've been told that my skin colour is better than it used to be when I was vegetarian.  I also find that I love cooking meat (perhaps more so than actually eating it).


good one... every good girl should get a piece of meat into her...

if you lived in Brazil you'd eat meat every day...

I've never eaten better... we went to 2 different BBQ restaurants while there and OMG.... the meat was delicious....

never even got up to the salad bar... the waiters just kept bring out different servings of meat and beer.... not even sure what most of it was... someone did mention horse...  Huh

I've never eaten some much meat in one sitting in all my life... I think I lost weight on that trip as well..so go figure...

and then there was the seafood restaurants... OMG x 2

I don't even like a lot of sea foods but I had all sorts of different fish... not sure what it was because the waiters didn't speak English too well... so I just went by the looks of it...

anything that scared me by looking at it I didn't eat... all sorts of prickly bizarre looking things...  Undecided
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