sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 6
th, 2014 at 8:31am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 6
th, 2014 at 8:20am:
The audience in QandA veers toward the "progressives". The audience's reaction to the panellists and the topics involved reflect that. It's odd that 40% supposed Liberal supports would boo their own or remain entirely silent throughout the show. Quantum is right that the topics the Greens are obsessed with get the most cheers, yet are only ever about 10% of the audience. Something doesn't add up.
Once again, your assumption is that a typical liberal supporter will:
1. Not agree with environmental policy, gay rights,assisting asylum seeker etc.
That is not a left ideal. It's a centrist ideal. And the majority of Austrlaia, the vast majority, is centrist.
And your assuming that just because an issue is not necessary hated by the majority that it must therefore be supported in the full.
Just because someone doesn't want to see the environment destroyed and bushland wiped out doesn't therefore mean that want to live in the greens world where almost nothing can be touched because of the environmental effects. Just because someone doesn't want to see refugees suffer or dying at sea doesn't therefore mean that want to open the borders and let everyone seek refuge. Just because someone doesn't want to see gays being beaten up of bared from society doesn't therefore mean that want to go and wave their rainbow flag and let them marry.
Yes the majority of Australians are in the centre and want to see some level of environmental policy, rights for gays, and assisting asylum seekers. But that doesn't make them a bunch of green cheerers like seen on Q&A.
Quote:So your assumption is wrong, as typically the issues discussed on the show have majority support of the public, and it's a shame that we have an extremist PM with an extremist ideology, that simply get supported by the extremists of the liberal party, who happen to make up the majority of liberal party posters on this forum.
How do you hold these two things together considering we just had an election less than 6 months ago where this "extremist ideology" PM was voted in by a large margin? If the majority of Australians hold to the greens view (the view that the Q&A audience continuously cheer for and the shows questions continuously focus on) why is Milne Mrs 8.65%? If the majority support the positions held on Q&A and Abbott holds the very opposite position, then he simply would not have had such an easy victory in a country that has compulsory voting.
I would have though that when a party has a position on these issues (environmental policy, gay rights, assisting asylum seeker), takes it to a national election with compulsory voting, and then gets the majority support, that this would better reflect where the position of the majority of Australians are than the cheer squad on Q&A who "claim" to be liberal voters. Yet, for some reason people decided to vote for a PM and party they hate because, why? Because there was no alternative party who has position on "
environmental policy, gay rights, assisting asylum seeker" which is pretty much exactly the same as the one on the show?
As someone who didn't vote for the Liberal party, I still have to accept the fact that they better represent the position of most Australians on these issues, especially compared to a party like the greens.
Once again you seem to believe that to hold specific views means you are somehow green. As you have rightfully acknowledged, the majority of Australians are in the centre and want to see some level of environmental policy, rights for gays, and assisting asylum seekers. So most of the cheers and agreeance you see on Q&A is not becuase it is packed3 with green voters, but because the right side commentators are loons that come up with absolute nonsense that no one in the center of politics can ever agree with. Who can forget Albrechstein with her "I don't support gay marriage because I don't support it. I don't have a reason I just don't suppor tit." How can anyone clap that stupidity?? But that's not to say there werent people in the audience who opposed gay marriage; it's just the commentators from the right tend to be more extreme than the average voter, and tend to be incrediably stupid.
And I can say that about Tony because the polls suggest his new policies are not liked, He even had to hide them! Who knew that Tony would go ahead with the environmental vandalism that he has in the past 6 months? People voted in part against Rudd/Gillard, in part against the boats and in part against the carbon tax. But no one voted to see the environment minister approve destruction of the reef, or the removal of world heritage on forests. Or now apparently the renewable energy targets being scrapped. You know, all those things that were hidden. As for gay marriage, when it came to the fiasco that was the Labor Party leadership, of course that would've rated second in priority, if not even third. But that fact remains that the majority of Australians support it, either by have a strong view on it, or having the view of "who gives a f**k".