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Reply #375 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:40pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 5:16pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:24pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:45am:

Grendel wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:41am:

Oh god.... why do I have to keep repeating myself for you... read some bloody posts will you!!!!!

The gay marriage lobby do not want a plebiscite or as they call it a referendum of the issue.

I've already stated this and explained why... go fetch for the rest. Roll Eyes

But why should we have one? Is this not a decision that can be made by our representatives?

NO!!!!!
No no no no no.....
This is a big social change, if ya didn't realise.
This IMO requires the vote of the Australian people, not a handful of wannabies and career politicians, that don't represent me but their own vested interests.

Why is it a big social change?

Howard changed it in 2004 without a plebiscite...was it a huge social change then? Grin

How did I know you'd come out with this idiocy. Not a major change?????? You are kidding or hugely demented or just plain stupid.
BTW Howard merely clarified the status quo. That which has been for millenia.

If every single gay couple in the world became legally married overnight, how would the rest of our lives be affected?

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Reply #376 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:48pm

How disgusting. Grendel is right.

These people are vile - they want to smear faeces on all decent people’s marriage vows everywhere.

Each and every bride and groom would have their heavenly bond tarnished. How selfish these people are - they want to bring the rest of us into the gutter with them.

The ABC has some some hard questions to answer for broadcasting the views of such hideous individuals.

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Reply #377 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:57pm

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:15pm:

I assumed that you'd say that. I think that you're more than centre-left. You are the reverse of me, in between centre-left and far-left.

I believe in free enterprise, and believe that it is important to ensure a strong economy where businesses can grow and people can take individual responsibility for their own lives and the lives of people around them.

But I also believe that individuals can only become strong in a strong society. Which is why I believe that all people deserve rights to fundamentals, like education, hospitals, infrastructure (roads, public transport), safety. And these fundamentals must be of the strongest caliber possible, regardless of how much money a person has. In addition, a strong society must look after its weak, to ensure that they too can get themselves back up and obtain their individualism.

I don't believe in religion. I don't believe christmas is being stolen by muslims. I don't believe homosexuality will destroy everything. I don't believe asylum seekers are going to take over all of Australia and change my way of life.

If that makes me far-left then so be it.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96460	Re: Q & A/ABC back to its usual biased self. Reply #382 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:00pm I agree, Alevine. I think people should be fundamentalists too.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Q & A/ABC back to its usual biased self. Reply #383 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:26pm Karnal wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:35pm: Good point, Grendel. Non-tribal Liberal voter, Paul Barry - leftard. Hello site idiot... just going to use your last retarded statement to make a point... A person who has voted Liberal is not the same thing as a Liberal Voter.
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Reply #384 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:38pm

Oh and one more thing...
marriage is the union of a man and a woman...
this then excludes same sex unions.
It is against the rules in Soccer to handle the ball whilst it is in play unless you are the Goalkeeper. If you want to handle the ball you need to choose another game. Not that hard to understand, one would think.
You wish to change the accepted and traditional meaning of a term/word. One that has a very, very, very... long tradition and has stood for the same thing for millenia... and yes it will change society... apparently in ways you shortsighted people cannot even think of. Roll Eyes

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Reply #385 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:43pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Oh and one more thing...
marriage is the union of a man and a woman...
this then excludes same sex unions.
It is against the rules in Soccer to handle the ball whilst it is in play unless you are the Goalkeeper. If you want to handle the ball you need to choose another game. Not that hard to understand, one would think.
You wish to change the accepted and traditional meaning of a term/word. One that has a very, very, very... long tradition and has stood for the same thing for millenia... and yes it will change society... apparently in ways you shortsighted people cannot even think of. Roll Eyes

You can always change the rules, as Howard did in 2004. And surprisingly no need for a plebiscite...

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96460	Re: Q & A/ABC back to its usual biased self. Reply #386 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:44pm I know, Grendel, that’s what I said - lefrard. Rupert doesn’t vote Liberal - He’s Amerikan. Is Rupert a Liberal voter or the other one? Thoughts?
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Reply #387 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:48pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:43pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Oh and one more thing...
marriage is the union of a man and a woman...
this then excludes same sex unions.
It is against the rules in Soccer to handle the ball whilst it is in play unless you are the Goalkeeper. If you want to handle the ball you need to choose another game. Not that hard to understand, one would think.
You wish to change the accepted and traditional meaning of a term/word. One that has a very, very, very... long tradition and has stood for the same thing for millenia... and yes it will change society... apparently in ways you shortsighted people cannot even think of. Roll Eyes

You can always change the rules, as Howard did in 2004. And surprisingly no need for a plebiscite...

But that’s Grendel’s point - you’re not allowed to change the rules. If you want to handle balls, you have to play Rugby or something.

I’m surprised Alan hasn’t mentioned this on his show. He used to coach the Wallabies.

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Reply #388 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:50pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:48pm:

How disgusting. Grendel is right.

These people are vile - they want to smear faeces on all decent people’s marriage vows everywhere.

Each and every bride and groom would have their heavenly bond tarnished. How selfish these people are - they want to bring the rest of us into the gutter with them.

The ABC has some some hard questions to answer for broadcasting the views of such hideous individuals.

Give me a break Karnal and stop making idiotic statements and stop libeling me on this site.
I do not think gay people are vile some of my best friends are gay... but I do know that marriage is the union of a man and a woman not same sex partners.
Stop lying.
Stop being an idiot.
Stop posting inane dribble and crap.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96460	Re: Q & A/ABC back to its usual biased self. Reply #389 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:50pm Grendel wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:26pm: A person who has voted Liberal is not the same thing as a Liberal Voter. What about Andrei? He’s a swinging voter, but he’s never voted for anyone.
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