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Reply #46 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:51am
 
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Reply #47 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:52am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:47am:
matty wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:38am:

Okay, I will give an example - their comments on boat people, for one.



Thats not a clue, thats a position on one issue .... not every rightie agrees with every single thing Abbott does idiot. Grow up!

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No, but it is a clear left-wing position on their behalf. They both also strongly defended the ABC, the reporting of the RUMOURS about boat people injuring their hands due to Australian navy personnel, and said that the government is demonising boat people (paraphrasing here).
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Reply #48 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:52am
 
matty wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:49am:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:46am:
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Actions speak louder than words.


Some words add meaning
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Reply #49 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:55am
 
matty wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:49am:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:46am:
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Actions speak louder than words.


what actions are you referring too?
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Reply #50 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:57am
 
matty wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:52am:
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:47am:
matty wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:38am:

Okay, I will give an example - their comments on boat people, for one.



Thats not a clue, thats a position on one issue .... not every rightie agrees with every single thing Abbott does idiot. Grow up!

I don't agree with labors PNG solution, does that make me a rightie too?  Grin Grin Grin Grin


No, but it is a clear left-wing position on their behalf. They both also strongly defended the ABC, the reporting of the RUMOURS about boat people injuring their hands due to Australian navy personnel, and said that the government is demonising boat people (paraphrasing here).



Matty's got voices in his head ....

I'm not interested in what they said on certain topics ...not evey liberal voter agrees with of shore processing ....   the truth is you have no idea how they vote, and you simply cannot accept that anyone can be critical of Abbott
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Reply #51 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 11:10am
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:46am:
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The number don't make sense. It is too consistent every single week. There has to be more to it.

The ABC must regulate the audience to keep those proportions. It would not be possible to get a random group of about 150 people each week and to always get about the same percentage. If they do regulate it, then something is still up, because the response of the audience doesn't fit the make up of it claimed by the ABC. Either the numbers don't include guests (not those on the panel, but those invited by those on the panel who may make up a considerable number in the room) or people are just lying about their affiliation to get on the show.
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Reply #52 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 11:35am
 
How long has it been since Tony's been on q&a?
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Reply #53 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 12:27pm
 
Quantum wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 11:10am:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:46am:
Audience: ALP 36%, Coalition 46%, Greens 10%


The number don't make sense. It is too consistent every single week. There has to be more to it.

The ABC must regulate the audience to keep those proportions. It would not be possible to get a random group of about 150 people each week and to always get about the same percentage. If they do regulate it, then something is still up, because the response of the audience doesn't fit the make up of it claimed by the ABC. Either the numbers don't include guests (not those on the panel, but those invited by those on the panel who may make up a considerable number in the room) or people are just lying about their affiliation to get on the show.


if they didnt regulate it would you scream bias?
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Reply #54 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 12:56pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 12:27pm:
Quantum wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 11:10am:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:46am:
Audience: ALP 36%, Coalition 46%, Greens 10%


The number don't make sense. It is too consistent every single week. There has to be more to it.

The ABC must regulate the audience to keep those proportions. It would not be possible to get a random group of about 150 people each week and to always get about the same percentage. If they do regulate it, then something is still up, because the response of the audience doesn't fit the make up of it claimed by the ABC. Either the numbers don't include guests (not those on the panel, but those invited by those on the panel who may make up a considerable number in the room) or people are just lying about their affiliation to get on the show.


if they didnt regulate it would you scream bias?


No. Regulating it is useless if it only creates a false statistic. During the little spat between the Greens and Labor last year there was a few occasions when the greeny ripped into both Labor and Liberal. The crowd erupted in applause. No way was there only 10% greens in the room. It would be better to say nothing about political affiliation, but if they must have a count, then let it be what ever is. If there are 50% greens voters in the room, so be it. Better that then only allow 10% in and have the other 40% pretending to be Labor or Liberal voters just to get in the door. It is just a façade of political balance in the crowd where none exist.

My issue of bias comes from the fact that the last two years the show has essentially rotated around three topics; Refugees, Gay marriage, and Climate Change. No matter what the focus that night is supposed to be it always comes back to those three topics. Funnily enough it the three things the greens never shut up on. Now it is not that those three issues are not relevant to either Liberal or Labor, but there are more to those two parties, as well as more things of importance in Australia than those three issues. That is where the bias is. Not so much the people on the show, but the issues that are continuously addressed as if that is all that really matters. The way the crowd responds to those three issues is also out of touch with the temperature of the wider community. If that was all that matters Milne would be PM right now and Brown before her. Clearly most people think there is more to Australia and Government than supporting these three areas. But you wouldn't know that by the boos and cheers from the crowd on Q&A.

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Re: Q & A/ABC back to its usual biased self.
Reply #55 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 1:00pm
 
Quantum wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 12:56pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 12:27pm:
Quantum wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 11:10am:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:46am:
Audience: ALP 36%, Coalition 46%, Greens 10%


The number don't make sense. It is too consistent every single week. There has to be more to it.

The ABC must regulate the audience to keep those proportions. It would not be possible to get a random group of about 150 people each week and to always get about the same percentage. If they do regulate it, then something is still up, because the response of the audience doesn't fit the make up of it claimed by the ABC. Either the numbers don't include guests (not those on the panel, but those invited by those on the panel who may make up a considerable number in the room) or people are just lying about their affiliation to get on the show.


if they didnt regulate it would you scream bias?


No. Regulating it is useless if it only creates a false statistic. During the little spat between the Greens and Labor last year there was a few occasions when the greeny ripped into both Labor and Liberal. The crowd erupted in applause. No way was there only 10% greens in the room. It would be better to say nothing about political affiliation, but if they must have a count, then let it be what ever is. If there are 50% greens voters in the room, so be it. Better that then only allow 10% in and have the other 40% pretending to be Labor or Liberal voters just to get in the door. It is just a façade of political balance in the crowd where none exist.

My issue of bias comes from the fact that the last two years the show has essentially rotated around three topics; Refugees, Gay marriage, and Climate Change. No matter what the focus that night is supposed to be it always comes back to those three topics. Funnily enough it the three things the greens never shut up on. Now it is not that those three issues are not relevant to either Liberal or Labor, but there are more to those two parties, as well as more things of importance in Australia than those three issues. That is where the bias is. Not so much the people on the show, but the issues that are continuously addressed as if that is all that really matters. The way the crowd responds to those three issues is also out of touch with the temperature of the wider community. If that was all that matters Milne would be PM right now and Brown before her. Clearly most people think there is more to Australia and Government than supporting these three areas. But you wouldn't know that by the boos and cheers from the crowd on Q&A.

 




I tend to agree with the focus. However it may be also that those three topics get the most controversy and therefore most viewers.
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Re: Q & A/ABC back to its usual biased self.
Reply #56 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 1:04pm
 
Quantum wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 12:56pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 12:27pm:
Quantum wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 11:10am:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:46am:
Audience: ALP 36%, Coalition 46%, Greens 10%


The number don't make sense. It is too consistent every single week. There has to be more to it.

The ABC must regulate the audience to keep those proportions. It would not be possible to get a random group of about 150 people each week and to always get about the same percentage. If they do regulate it, then something is still up, because the response of the audience doesn't fit the make up of it claimed by the ABC. Either the numbers don't include guests (not those on the panel, but those invited by those on the panel who may make up a considerable number in the room) or people are just lying about their affiliation to get on the show.


if they didnt regulate it would you scream bias?


No. Regulating it is useless if it only creates a false statistic. During the little spat between the Greens and Labor last year there was a few occasions when the greeny ripped into both Labor and Liberal. The crowd erupted in applause. No way was there only 10% greens in the room. It would be better to say nothing about political affiliation, but if they must have a count, then let it be what ever is. If there are 50% greens voters in the room, so be it. Better that then only allow 10% in and have the other 40% pretending to be Labor or Liberal voters just to get in the door. It is just a façade of political balance in the crowd where none exist.

My issue of bias comes from the fact that the last two years the show has essentially rotated around three topics; Refugees, Gay marriage, and Climate Change. No matter what the focus that night is supposed to be it always comes back to those three topics. Funnily enough it the three things the greens never shut up on. Now it is not that those three issues are not relevant to either Liberal or Labor, but there are more to those two parties, as well as more things of importance in Australia than those three issues. That is where the bias is. Not so much the people on the show, but the issues that are continuously addressed as if that is all that really matters. The way the crowd responds to those three issues is also out of touch with the temperature of the wider community. If that was all that matters Milne would be PM right now and Brown before her. Clearly most people think there is more to Australia and Government than supporting these three areas. But you wouldn't know that by the boos and cheers from the crowd on Q&A.

 


So nobody should applaud if they are on the other side of politics? Is that what you are saying? Perhaps it just sounded like it anyway. to you.

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Reply #57 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 1:14pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 1:00pm:
Quantum wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 12:56pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 12:27pm:
Quantum wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 11:10am:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:46am:
Audience: ALP 36%, Coalition 46%, Greens 10%


The number don't make sense. It is too consistent every single week. There has to be more to it.

The ABC must regulate the audience to keep those proportions. It would not be possible to get a random group of about 150 people each week and to always get about the same percentage. If they do regulate it, then something is still up, because the response of the audience doesn't fit the make up of it claimed by the ABC. Either the numbers don't include guests (not those on the panel, but those invited by those on the panel who may make up a considerable number in the room) or people are just lying about their affiliation to get on the show.


if they didnt regulate it would you scream bias?


No. Regulating it is useless if it only creates a false statistic. During the little spat between the Greens and Labor last year there was a few occasions when the greeny ripped into both Labor and Liberal. The crowd erupted in applause. No way was there only 10% greens in the room. It would be better to say nothing about political affiliation, but if they must have a count, then let it be what ever is. If there are 50% greens voters in the room, so be it. Better that then only allow 10% in and have the other 40% pretending to be Labor or Liberal voters just to get in the door. It is just a façade of political balance in the crowd where none exist.

My issue of bias comes from the fact that the last two years the show has essentially rotated around three topics; Refugees, Gay marriage, and Climate Change. No matter what the focus that night is supposed to be it always comes back to those three topics. Funnily enough it the three things the greens never shut up on. Now it is not that those three issues are not relevant to either Liberal or Labor, but there are more to those two parties, as well as more things of importance in Australia than those three issues. That is where the bias is. Not so much the people on the show, but the issues that are continuously addressed as if that is all that really matters. The way the crowd responds to those three issues is also out of touch with the temperature of the wider community. If that was all that matters Milne would be PM right now and Brown before her. Clearly most people think there is more to Australia and Government than supporting these three areas. But you wouldn't know that by the boos and cheers from the crowd on Q&A.

 




I tend to agree with the focus. However it may be also that those three topics get the most controversy and therefore most viewers.


No doubt it makes for a more fiery debate, but that raises another question of the aims of the ABC; Should viewer statistics matter? Sure there needs to be someone watching for the ABC to be worth having, but they don't need numbers for advertisement money. If they have to use tricks to get people watching then how are they any different to commercial channels?

Just last week there was the whole issue of the boat people and the torture claims. Was that news, or just a trumped up issue for a catchy headline to get viewer numbers?

I actually support the concept of the ABC and certainly don't want to see it censored or shut down, but I do have issues with the way it is run at the moment. From pushing opinions, corny promos and self advertisement breaks, it is becoming more and more like a commercial channel in its feel and less like the ABC of the past.
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Reply #58 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 1:17pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 1:04pm:
Quantum wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 12:56pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 12:27pm:
Quantum wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 11:10am:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 10:46am:
Audience: ALP 36%, Coalition 46%, Greens 10%


The number don't make sense. It is too consistent every single week. There has to be more to it.

The ABC must regulate the audience to keep those proportions. It would not be possible to get a random group of about 150 people each week and to always get about the same percentage. If they do regulate it, then something is still up, because the response of the audience doesn't fit the make up of it claimed by the ABC. Either the numbers don't include guests (not those on the panel, but those invited by those on the panel who may make up a considerable number in the room) or people are just lying about their affiliation to get on the show.


if they didnt regulate it would you scream bias?


No. Regulating it is useless if it only creates a false statistic. During the little spat between the Greens and Labor last year there was a few occasions when the greeny ripped into both Labor and Liberal. The crowd erupted in applause. No way was there only 10% greens in the room. It would be better to say nothing about political affiliation, but if they must have a count, then let it be what ever is. If there are 50% greens voters in the room, so be it. Better that then only allow 10% in and have the other 40% pretending to be Labor or Liberal voters just to get in the door. It is just a façade of political balance in the crowd where none exist.

My issue of bias comes from the fact that the last two years the show has essentially rotated around three topics; Refugees, Gay marriage, and Climate Change. No matter what the focus that night is supposed to be it always comes back to those three topics. Funnily enough it the three things the greens never shut up on. Now it is not that those three issues are not relevant to either Liberal or Labor, but there are more to those two parties, as well as more things of importance in Australia than those three issues. That is where the bias is. Not so much the people on the show, but the issues that are continuously addressed as if that is all that really matters. The way the crowd responds to those three issues is also out of touch with the temperature of the wider community. If that was all that matters Milne would be PM right now and Brown before her. Clearly most people think there is more to Australia and Government than supporting these three areas. But you wouldn't know that by the boos and cheers from the crowd on Q&A.

 


So nobody should applaud if they are on the other side of politics? Is that what you are saying? Perhaps it just sounded like it anyway. to you.

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Reply #59 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 1:24pm
 
matty wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 8:50pm:
Kat wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 8:45pm:
Idiot! You really are full of it.

I watched the show, and you are, quite categorically, wrong.

Again.


I will leave the personal insults to you, Kat. Care to show how I am wrong?

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