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Reply #30 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:31am

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:26am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

Kat wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:12am:

I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here.

Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John.

Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'.

Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do
not become violent or suffer from hang-overs.

Except for people who it damages psychologically with schizophrenia etc.

my ex girlfriends family all used to smoke

drink

regularly, they were always broke, and everytime they ran out of pot

beer

, they would all get abusive because they hadn't had their fix ... husband and wife would fight (physically) in front of toddlers .... Kat wants to pretend that it's harmless ... this went on for years

they used to piss me off because when they did have their pot

alcohol

they would smoke

drink

it in a closed room with the toddlers present ...

Excuse me for changing your post, slightly.

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Re: Schapelle Corby, parole decision..
Reply #31 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:32am

Kat wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:26am:

The large majority of people who try
marijuana do it experimentally and never become addicted

I didn't say those that try it get addicted, I said regular users are addicted .. your little factoid is deceptive ... not everyone that smokes tries a cigarette gets addicted either, do you want to argue that cigarettes aren't addictive?

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Reply #32 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:33am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:31am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:26am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

Kat wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:12am:

I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here.

Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John.

Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'.

Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do
not become violent or suffer from hang-overs.

Except for people who it damages psychologically with schizophrenia etc.

my ex girlfriends family all used to smoke

drink

regularly, they were always broke, and everytime they ran out of pot

beer

, they would all get abusive because they hadn't had their fix ... husband and wife would fight (physically) in front of toddlers .... Kat wants to pretend that it's harmless ... this went on for years

they used to piss me off because when they did have their pot

alcohol

they would smoke

drink

it in a closed room with the toddlers present ...

Excuse me for changing your post, slightly.

go for it, and I agree ... with one MAJOR exception...

alcohol is legal

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137078 Gender:	Re: Schapelle Corby, parole decision.. Reply #33 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:34am John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:30am: Shapelle had a body board bag full... you also can't pretend it was for her own use. I don't care if she had three tonnes of the stuff: nobody should serve nine years in prison for a cannabis offence.
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Reply #34 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:35am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:34am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:30am:

Shapelle had a body board bag full... you also can't pretend it was for her own use.

I don't care if she had three tonnes of the stuff: nobody should serve nine years in prison for a cannabis offence.

In a country where smuggling drugs in can result in the death penalty, she's lucky she got 9 years. You don't have to like or agree with their laws , but you do have to respect them. or alternatively, don't go to Malaysia

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Reply #36 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:40am

Ive never picked up a boogie board that weighed more than 1.5 kg.

For schapelle to pick up a boogie board with 5 kg of drugs stashed in it and carry it over to the customs officer , and then claim she didnt know it was there, is laughable.

I'd give her a 2 month sentence for the weed and 20 years for being a lying b^tch.

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Reply #37 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:42am

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:31am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:26am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

Kat wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:12am:

I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here.

Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John.

Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'.

Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do
not become violent or suffer from hang-overs.

Except for people who it damages psychologically with schizophrenia etc.

my ex girlfriends family all used to smoke

drink

regularly, they were always broke, and everytime they ran out of pot

beer

, they would all get abusive because they hadn't had their fix ... husband and wife would fight (physically) in front of toddlers .... Kat wants to pretend that it's harmless ... this went on for years

they used to piss me off because when they did have their pot

alcohol

they would smoke

drink

it in a closed room with the toddlers present ...

Excuse me for changing your post, slightly.

go for it, and I agree ... with one MAJOR exception...

alcohol is legal

Yes, but your story wasn't about the law: it was about the effects of drug use.

Alcohol is a drug, and it has the same effects (worse, in fact).

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Reply #38 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:44am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:28am:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Most hardcore addicts start with cannabis ...

Most cannabis users don't turn into hardcore addicts.

"There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs."

Read more: Marijuana as a Gateway Drug: The Myth That Will Not Die | TIME.com http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/29/marijuna-as-a-gateway-drug-the-myth-that-will-not-die/#ixzz2sV4lYjzH

Totally disagree, and dealers have no problem expanding the drug experience to more serious substances to make more money.

You can disagree all you want, however, without any sort of evidence ... well ... Undecided

Parroting the internet line is not what I'd call knowing what you're talking about.

After seventeen years working dual purpose and specialist DD dogs, and being involved in numerous raids on drug suppliers and dealers, I have witnessed first hand the corruption of youngsters by starting them out on cannabis, thereby fuelling an addictive personality just to encourage the addict to want a "better" more intense experience or high by graduating to much more addictive substances.

I think you'd class that as experience. Smiley

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Reply #39 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:47am

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

After seventeen years working dual purpose and specialist DD dogs, and being involved in numerous raids on drug suppliers and dealers, I have witnessed first hand the corruption of youngsters by starting them out on cannabis

They'd be far more likely to 'start out' on alcohol. If you're going to overlook that, you forfeit the right to take the 'concerned citizen' angle.

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Re: Schapelle Corby, parole decision..
Reply #40 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:47am

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:28am:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Most hardcore addicts start with cannabis ...

Most cannabis users don't turn into hardcore addicts.

"There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs."

Read more: Marijuana as a Gateway Drug: The Myth That Will Not Die | TIME.com http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/29/marijuna-as-a-gateway-drug-the-myth-that-will-not-die/#ixzz2sV4lYjzH

Totally disagree, and dealers have no problem expanding the drug experience to more serious substances to make more money.

You can disagree all you want, however, without any sort of evidence ... well ... Undecided

Parroting the internet line is not what I'd call knowing what you're talking about.

After seventeen years working dual purpose and specialist DD dogs, and being involved in numerous raids on drug suppliers and dealers, I have witnessed first hand the corruption of youngsters by starting them out on cannabis, thereby fuelling an addictive personality just to encourage the addict to want a "better" more intense experience or high by graduating to much more addictive substances.

I think you'd class that as experience. Smiley

1. Most cannabis users don't turn into hardcore addicts.

2. "There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs."

"Experience" can not change those facts. Sorry.

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Reply #41 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:49am

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:26am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

Kat wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:12am:

I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here.

Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John.

Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'.

Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do
not become violent or suffer from hang-overs.

Except for people who it damages psychologically with schizophrenia etc.

my ex girlfriends family all used to smoke reagularly, they were always broke, and everytime they ran out of pot, they would all get abusive because they hadn't had their fix ... husband and wife would fight (physically) in front of toddlers .... Kat wants to pretend that it's harmless ... this went on for years

they used to piss me off because when they did have their pot they would smoke it in a closed room with the toddlers present ...

I've seen the same thing when people run out of cigarettes. They'd be like that no matter what their addiction, be it food, alcohol, tobacco, porn, heroin or pot.

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Reply #42 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:54am

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:47am:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

After seventeen years working dual purpose and specialist DD dogs, and being involved in numerous raids on drug suppliers and dealers, I have witnessed first hand the corruption of youngsters by starting them out on cannabis

They'd be far more likely to 'start out' on alcohol. If you're going to overlook that, you forfeit the right to take the 'concerned citizen' angle.

Yes.

" ... most drug users begin with alcohol and nicotine before marijuana — usually before they are of legal age.

"In the sense that marijuana use typically precedes rather than follows initiation of other illicit drug use, it is indeed a “gateway” drug. But because underage smoking and alcohol use typically precede marijuana use, marijuana is not the most common, and is rarely the first, “gateway” to illicit drug use. There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs."

http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/29/marijuna-as-a-gateway-drug-the-myth-that-w...

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Reply #43 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:01pm

Just some light reading about the baggage handlers Wink

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Baggage-handlers-paid-300000-in-drug-plot/2005/05/11/1115585014740.html

Ian Robert Chalmers mentioned in that article, in cahoots with the baggage handlers, was a Director of Macquarie Bank. Who owns Sydney Airport? Answer = Macquarie Bank perhaps Shocked

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Reply #44 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:02pm

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:28am:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Most hardcore addicts start with cannabis ...

Most cannabis users don't turn into hardcore addicts.

"There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs."

Read more: Marijuana as a Gateway Drug: The Myth That Will Not Die | TIME.com http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/29/marijuna-as-a-gateway-drug-the-myth-that-will-not-die/#ixzz2sV4lYjzH

Totally disagree, and dealers have no problem expanding the drug experience to more serious substances to make more money.

You can disagree all you want, however, without any sort of evidence ... well ... Undecided

Parroting the internet line is not what I'd call knowing what you're talking about.

After seventeen years working dual purpose and specialist DD dogs, and being involved in numerous raids on drug suppliers and dealers, I have witnessed first hand the corruption of youngsters by starting them out on cannabis, thereby fuelling an addictive personality just to encourage the addict to want a "better" more intense experience or high by graduating to much more addictive substances.

I think you'd class that as experience. Smiley

Being at one end of the law enforcement process in a relatively minor role doesn't give you any special experience. In fact the substance of your post has told us what you don't know. Really what you have stated is rubbish. No one invvolved in substance abuse counselling or rehabilitation would parrot such nonsense.

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