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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95926 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #165 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 4:53pm FriYAY wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:45pm: Tow em back, turn em round, sink em, who cares. As long as they stop coming. Wank on them... They're actually called "sea biscuits" in some places, FriYay.
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #166 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 5:08pm

Coalition policy was to turn back boats where it was safe to do so.

Abbott may have said other things, but, really.....everyone went to the last election understanding that. But...............

How does that stand up against ~ holding back, allowing the boats to arrive in Australia......take the boat people off their vessell............(while ignoring their claim for asylum) transfer them to an orange life boat we own........put a line on it.........and tow it through international waters and into or near to Indonesian waters?

Embarrassed

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38770 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #167 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 5:08pm *
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58647 Here Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #168 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 5:31pm FriYAY wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:45pm: Tow em back, turn em round, sink em, who cares. As long as they stop coming. Back to the Howard day attitudes / get out the machine guns - no more crying about them being sent to Malaysia.
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #169 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 6:23pm

Bam wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:50pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:38pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:33pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 8:16pm:

Tow backs have been an integral part of Operation Sovereign Borders in which this policy was released to the public months before the election on the Liberal party website.
The public were well aware of this, and Abbott went to the election with it and won the election.
Your selective memory does you no credit whatsoever.
And tow backs will continue to be an integral part of a policy which has been very successful in the few months it has been active which is why it will remain despite the bleatings of the left side of politics or the Indonesians.
Smugglers boats will never be welcome in this country.

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:24pm:

The official policy never was tow back... that was labor misquoting and propaganda.

No boat I'm aware of, has been, towed back to Indonesia.

I'd have no problem with them doing just that, but the Indonesians might be a bit miffed.

You have contradicted each other.

One of you is wrong.

Please work out amongst yourselves which one of you is wrong.

Actually we could both be right in part.
But as for the policy I am 100% correct.
You can work out the rest yourself... I used to think you were bright enough to do that.

That should be done by CL. He was the one that contradicted you, not me. I'll wait for the both of you to work out between yourselves what the policy actually is (or was), complete with links.

Don't be stupid, we don't know each other and we don't share the same politics anymore than you and I do.
The policy was TURN Back The Boats not the labor lie.
What is your point?

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #170 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 6:27pm

Bam wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 4:41pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:52pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:50pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:38pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:33pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 8:16pm:

Tow backs have been an integral part of Operation Sovereign Borders in which this policy was released to the public months before the election on the Liberal party website.
The public were well aware of this, and Abbott went to the election with it and won the election.
Your selective memory does you no credit whatsoever.
And tow backs will continue to be an integral part of a policy which has been very successful in the few months it has been active which is why it will remain despite the bleatings of the left side of politics or the Indonesians.
Smugglers boats will never be welcome in this country.

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:24pm:

The official policy never was tow back... that was labor misquoting and propaganda.

No boat I'm aware of, has been, towed back to Indonesia.

I'd have no problem with them doing just that, but the Indonesians might be a bit miffed.

You have contradicted each other.

One of you is wrong.

Please work out amongst yourselves which one of you is wrong.

Actually we could both be right in part.
But as for the policy I am 100% correct.
You can work out the rest yourself... I used to think you were bright enough to do that.

That should be done by CL. He was the one that contradicted you, not me. I'll wait for the both of you to work out between yourselves what the policy actually is (or was), complete with links.

Don't be stupid, we don't know each other and we don't share the same politics anymore than you and I do.
The policy was TURN Back The Boats not the labor lie.
What is your point?

At least one of you is posting rubbish without checking your facts. Surely you're smart enough to work this out. Read the highlighted bits again. Which one of you is correct? Were tow backs published Coalition policy or not? And if they were, why was Abbott denying this?

Now, are you going to provide evidence? Or are you going to keep dodging the question?

I don't care what anyone else writes he's not my brother and I'm not his keeper.
I answered your question.
Lots of people post crap and wrong things here, I try to be much more accurate and correct.
Are you denying what I said is correct?
If not fine, I have no idea why you think i'm responsible for the errors of others.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #171 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 6:29pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 5:08pm:

Coalition policy was to turn back boats where it was safe to do so.

Abbott may have said other things, but, really.....everyone went to the last election understanding that. But...............

How does that stand up against ~ holding back, allowing the boats to arrive in Australia......take the boat people off their vessell............(while ignoring their claim for asylum) transfer them to an orange life boat we own........put a line on it.........and tow it through international waters and into or near to Indonesian waters?

Embarrassed

There you go bam even Aussie knows it... now that is saying something.

Aussie why would you need to tow a motorised boat?
get that brain in gear.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #172 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 9:41pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 6:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 5:08pm:

Coalition policy was to turn back boats where it was safe to do so.

Abbott may have said other things, but, really.....everyone went to the last election understanding that. But...............

How does that stand up against ~ holding back, allowing the boats to arrive in Australia......take the boat people off their vessell............(while ignoring their claim for asylum) transfer them to an orange life boat we own........put a line on it.........and tow it through international waters and into or near to Indonesian waters?

Embarrassed

There you go bam even Aussie knows it... now that is saying something.

Aussie why would you need to tow a motorised boat?
get that brain in gear.

What is this, Grendel....an orange boat saving a Warship?

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #173 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 9:45pm Happy to see the boats sent/towed back. As long as they are loaded with 'Aussie' conservatives first.
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #174 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 9:47pm

Kat wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 9:45pm:

Happy to see the boats sent/towed back.

As long as they are loaded with Aussie conservatives first.

Too bad it's the opposite. They would all be future Labor voters on the dole like yourself. Maybe you should join them in solidarity comrade? Although you wouldn't have the guts.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #175 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:16pm

Sorryyouarewrong wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 9:47pm:

Kat wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 9:45pm:

Happy to see the boats sent/towed back.

As long as they are loaded with Aussie conservatives first.

Too bad it's the opposite. They would all be future Labor voters on the dole like yourself. Maybe you should join them in solidarity comrade? Although you wouldn't have the guts.

Just what is it with you smegheads, that you find it necessary to
accuse anyone who disagrees with you of being unemployed?

Make you somehow feel 'superior'?

Or are you jealous because YOU are, and I'm not?

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #176 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:22pm Stop feeding the troll, Kat. You can’t win—they drag you down to their level of total idiocy then beat you with experience.
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #177 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:26pm St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:22pm: Stop feeding the troll, Kat. You can’t win—they drag you down to their level of total idiocy then beat you with experience. Hmmm... he sure seems to have plenty of that.
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #178 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:37pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 6:27pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 4:41pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:52pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:50pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:38pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:33pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 8:16pm:

Tow backs have been an integral part of Operation Sovereign Borders in which this policy was released to the public months before the election on the Liberal party website.
The public were well aware of this, and Abbott went to the election with it and won the election.
Your selective memory does you no credit whatsoever.
And tow backs will continue to be an integral part of a policy which has been very successful in the few months it has been active which is why it will remain despite the bleatings of the left side of politics or the Indonesians.
Smugglers boats will never be welcome in this country.

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:24pm:

The official policy never was tow back... that was labor misquoting and propaganda.

No boat I'm aware of, has been, towed back to Indonesia.

I'd have no problem with them doing just that, but the Indonesians might be a bit miffed.

You have contradicted each other.

One of you is wrong.

Please work out amongst yourselves which one of you is wrong.

Actually we could both be right in part.
But as for the policy I am 100% correct.
You can work out the rest yourself... I used to think you were bright enough to do that.

That should be done by CL. He was the one that contradicted you, not me. I'll wait for the both of you to work out between yourselves what the policy actually is (or was), complete with links.

Don't be stupid, we don't know each other and we don't share the same politics anymore than you and I do.
The policy was TURN Back The Boats not the labor lie.
What is your point?

At least one of you is posting rubbish without checking your facts. Surely you're smart enough to work this out. Read the highlighted bits again. Which one of you is correct? Were tow backs published Coalition policy or not? And if they were, why was Abbott denying this?

Now, are you going to provide evidence? Or are you going to keep dodging the question?

I don't care what anyone else writes he's not my brother and I'm not his keeper.
I answered your question.

I asked for evidence. I asked more than once. Since you didn't provide any (despite being asked more than once), here is the evidence that you seem unable to provide.

Abbott splitting hairs on the difference between towing and turning back the boats. (ABC Fact Check)

The trouble is, you appear to be wrong. You have claimed: "The official policy never was tow back... that was labor misquoting and propaganda." Yet we have clear video footage of one of those orange lifeboats that the government purchased earlier, connected to an Australian warship by a rope and apparently being towed somewhere at sea. If that's not a boat being towed, what is it?

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Lots of people post crap and wrong things here, I try to be much more accurate and correct.
Are you denying what I said is correct?
If not fine, I have no idea why you think i'm responsible for the errors of others.

You're not a raving loony like some of the other posters here (on both sides). At least you bothered to respond; chickenlips apparently ran away and hid in some dark corner.

But you may be wrong, if that inconvenient video footage is indeed a boat load of asylum seekers being towed by an Australian warship - a policy that you claimed did not exist.

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Sorryyouarewrong Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 127 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #179 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:41pm No one cares if they are towed or turned as long as they're gone.
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