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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #180 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 11:41pm

Sorryyouarewrong wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 9:47pm:

Kat wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 9:45pm:

Happy to see the boats sent/towed back.

As long as they are loaded with Aussie conservatives first.

Too bad it's the opposite. They would all be future Labor voters on the dole like yourself. Maybe you should join them in solidarity comrade? Although you wouldn't have the guts.

They are typically "A" type personalities - people who take action and make things happen - Mostly conservatives by nature - except for the way they are treated by the Liberals that is.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #181 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 8:05am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 5:31pm:

FriYAY wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:45pm:

Tow em back, turn em round, sink em, who cares.

As long as they stop coming.

Back to the Howard day attitudes / get out the machine guns - no more crying about them being sent to Malaysia.

Howard used machine guns, what what what!!

Rudd wanted them to rot on PNG.

Malaysia!!!

Just stop the people smuggling trade.

There are millions out there with their hands out.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38770 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #182 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 2:27pm
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Dnarever Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 58647 Here Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #183 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 4:28pm Sorryyouarewrong wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:41pm: No one cares if they are towed or turned as long as they're gone. No one cares that our PM's word is meaningless ?????
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #184 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 4:31pm

FriYAY wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 8:05am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 5:31pm:

FriYAY wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:45pm:

Tow em back, turn em round, sink em, who cares.

As long as they stop coming.

Back to the Howard day attitudes / get out the machine guns - no more crying about them being sent to Malaysia.

Howard used machine guns, what what what!!

Rudd wanted them to rot on PNG.

Malaysia!!!

Just stop the people smuggling trade.

There are millions out there with their hands out.

Howard used machine guns, what what what!!

No but a lot of Liberal supporters who were later crying about the plight of refugees sent to Malaysia were previously suggesting that would have been an ideal solution and now as you see we have changed governments and gone full circle on opinion.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #186 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 6:59pm

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I asked for evidence. I asked more than once. Since you didn't provide any (despite being asked more than once), here is the evidence that you seem unable to provide.

I didn't see any original question but I did answer it anyway in my comments.

The Policy is as I stated and more fully how Aussie quoted it. Did you miss them?

The policy as Abbott has stated and clarified many times and as it has been repeated here was TURN BACK THE BOATS... how they do that is up to the people at the coalface. No boat has to my knowledge been found in our waters and towed back to Indonesia. The TOW Back cry was Labor propaganda.

It isn't confusing or rocket science.
I wasn't wrong or avoiding answering you that is being very disingenuous to say so.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #187 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 7:41pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 6:59pm:

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I asked for evidence. I asked more than once. Since you didn't provide any (despite being asked more than once), here is the evidence that you seem unable to provide.

I didn't see any original question but I did answer it anyway in my comments.

The Policy is as I stated and more fully how Aussie quoted it. Did you miss them?

The policy as Abbott has stated and clarified many times and as it has been repeated here was TURN BACK THE BOATS... how they do that is up to the people at the coalface. No boat has to my knowledge been found in our waters and towed back to Indonesia. The TOW Back cry was Labor propaganda.

It isn't confusing or rocket science.
I wasn't wrong or avoiding answering you that is being very disingenuous to say so.

Hang on Grendel. The policy was to 'turn back boats.....where it was safe to do so.'

It was not....."Stalk, wait until they get inside our waters, pounce, put fingers in ears and not hear claims for asylum, take them off the fishing boat, load them into an orange boat, and then tow them out of Australia, through international high seas, and when they get near to, or even beyond Indonesian territory, let them loose."

That is the only logical explanation for what we have seen, and that was not what the lying prick took the election.

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Reply #188 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 7:58pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 6:59pm:

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I asked for evidence. I asked more than once. Since you didn't provide any (despite being asked more than once), here is the evidence that you seem unable to provide.

I didn't see any original question but I did answer it anyway in my comments.

The Policy is as I stated and more fully how Aussie quoted it. Did you miss them?

The policy as Abbott has stated and clarified many times and as it has been repeated here was TURN BACK THE BOATS... how they do that is up to the people at the coalface. No boat has to my knowledge been found in our waters and towed back to Indonesia. The TOW Back cry was Labor propaganda.

Nonsense. Are you denying the existence of the footage?

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It isn't confusing or rocket science.
I wasn't wrong

So why are boats being towed after Abbott specifically denied this would happen?

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or avoiding answering you

You are cropping out much of my response though. Why are you trying to deny the undeniable?

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that is being very disingenuous to say so.

That's the pot calling the kettle black. You are being disingenuous, cropping out those parts of my response that you cannot refute (that is, most of it) and then pretending I never said it.

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #189 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 8:01pm I also note that the rightards have not bothered to refute most of the items on this list. I note this tacit acceptance of this long list of broken promises.
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #190 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 8:29pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 6:59pm:

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I asked for evidence. I asked more than once. Since you didn't provide any (despite being asked more than once), here is the evidence that you seem unable to provide.

I didn't see any original question but I did answer it anyway in my comments.

The Policy is as I stated and more fully how Aussie quoted it. Did you miss them?

The policy as Abbott has stated and clarified many times and as it has been repeated here was TURN BACK THE BOATS... how they do that is up to the people at the coalface. No boat has to my knowledge been found in our waters and towed back to Indonesia. The TOW Back cry was Labor propaganda.

It isn't confusing or rocket science.
I wasn't wrong or avoiding answering you that is being very disingenuous to say so.

Hang on Grendel. The policy was to 'turn back boats.....where it was safe to do so.'

That's right I agree and I acknowledged you...

It was not....."Stalk, wait until they get inside our waters, pounce, put fingers in ears and not hear claims for asylum, take them off the fishing boat, load them into an orange boat, and then tow them out of Australia, through international high seas, and when they get near to, or even beyond Indonesian territory, let them loose."

Don't be a bloody idiot all the time... be happy you get credit for being right occasionally.

That is the only logical explanation for what we have seen, and that was not what the lying prick took the election.

There ya going being an idiot again.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #191 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 8:30pm

Bam wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 8:01pm:

I also note that the rightards have not bothered to refute most of the items on this list. I note this tacit acceptance of this long list of broken promises.

Well I told you why I'm not going to do it. It was so stupid I couldn't even be bothered reading it all. Why would you waste time refuting idiocy and lies?

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #192 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 8:32pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 8:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 6:59pm:

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I asked for evidence. I asked more than once. Since you didn't provide any (despite being asked more than once), here is the evidence that you seem unable to provide.

I didn't see any original question but I did answer it anyway in my comments.

The Policy is as I stated and more fully how Aussie quoted it. Did you miss them?

The policy as Abbott has stated and clarified many times and as it has been repeated here was TURN BACK THE BOATS... how they do that is up to the people at the coalface. No boat has to my knowledge been found in our waters and towed back to Indonesia. The TOW Back cry was Labor propaganda.

It isn't confusing or rocket science.
I wasn't wrong or avoiding answering you that is being very disingenuous to say so.

Hang on Grendel. The policy was to 'turn back boats.....where it was safe to do so.'

That's right I agree and I acknowledged you...

It was not....."Stalk, wait until they get inside our waters, pounce, put fingers in ears and not hear claims for asylum, take them off the fishing boat, load them into an orange boat, and then tow them out of Australia, through international high seas, and when they get near to, or even beyond Indonesian territory, let them loose."

Don't be a bloody idiot all the time... be happy you get credit for being right occasionally.

That is the only logical explanation for what we have seen, and that was not what the lying prick took the election.

There ya going being an idiot again.

That's typical dumb from you, Grendel. How about you do better than crap ad hom and address the points made. Any chance of that happening, Grendel?

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #193 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 8:39pm

Bam wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 7:58pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 6:59pm:

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I asked for evidence. I asked more than once. Since you didn't provide any (despite being asked more than once), here is the evidence that you seem unable to provide.

I didn't see any original question but I did answer it anyway in my comments.

The Policy is as I stated and more fully how Aussie quoted it. Did you miss them?

The policy as Abbott has stated and clarified many times and as it has been repeated here was TURN BACK THE BOATS... how they do that is up to the people at the coalface. No boat has to my knowledge been found in our waters and towed back to Indonesia. The TOW Back cry was Labor propaganda.

Nonsense. Are you denying the existence of the footage?

Now you are just being plain annoying... and wrong. TOW BACK THE BOATS WAS LABOR PROPAGANDA... personally I don't care if they tow boats a little way or part way or even the bloody whole way as long as the boats are TURNED BACK!!!

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It isn't confusing or rocket science.
I wasn't wrong

So why are boats being towed after Abbott specifically denied this would happen?

OMG.... were the boats towed back from where they were intercepted to the Indonesian mainland? You got a quote where Abbott said boats would not be towed any distance if necessary? Or are you making that up too? THE POLICY was TURN BACK THE BOATS.... Labor called it TOW BACK the Boats... the lifeboats are motorised they go back under their own power as do as Aussie suggested boats "where it is safe to do so."

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or avoiding answering you

You are cropping out much of my response though. Why are you trying to deny the undeniable?

You are being pedantic to the point of stupidity, I expect that from others not you.

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that is being very disingenuous to say so.

That's the pot calling the kettle black. You are being disingenuous, cropping out those parts of my response that you cannot refute (that is, most of it) and then pretending I never said it.

I haven't cropped out anything....
I answered your question, whatever it was.
I explained the policy.
If you are so politically biased you cannot or will not understand that then I won't waste my time with you anymore.

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Reply #194 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 8:43pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 8:01pm:

I also note that the rightards have not bothered to refute most of the items on this list. I note this tacit acceptance of this long list of broken promises.

Well I told you why I'm not going to do it. It was so stupid I couldn't even be bothered reading it all. Why would you waste time refuting idiocy and lies?

Your task is to explain why you think "it was so stupid".

Your failure to do so is quite telling.

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