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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #225 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 5:32pm

This debate has wandered off course, and I may have contributed. Let's revisit the words of Abbott which are:

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Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs. Our policy, which we have repeated till we are blue in the face, is that we reserve the right to turn boats around where it is safe to do so. There is a world of difference between turning boats around in Australian waters and the Australian Navy towing them back to Indonesia.

Now tell me, in the context of those words, what those orange boats are, and why is there a tow line between a warship and one of them.

The answer is. Abbott lied. Our mob become aware of a boat heading our way. We sit back and wait for it to arrive in our waters. We leap in, turn our ears off so we do not hear any claim for asylum...........we take them off Achmed's boat, bung them into one of our orange ones, and tow them out of Australia, through international waters, and back to Indonesian waters. Ya see.....no boats have arrived on our mainland as Abbott boasts.

I'd love to have pointed out to me the holes in that scenario.

How about you cods?

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #226 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 6:56pm

Can't work out what ropes are for eh.

How far is towing a boat back to Indonesia?
1m
10m
100m
1km
or is it actually to a port or landfall Grin

When is a Customs vessel a Naval vessel?

You're like a small dog that thinks he has a very large bone Aussie.

Oh and the Orange boats are Lifeboats.
How does a vessel that cannot carry one or launch one actually address that problem? Surely they wouldn't tow it would they? Cheesy

BTW I'm happy with your scenario. What's your problem with it?

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #227 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 6:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 5:19pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 5:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 4:57pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 11:56am:

Let me tell you the seas and oceans are vast and there are no lines painted on the waves or fences out there. If you think mistakes cannot be made or you know exactly where you are to the millimetre at all times you are ignorant. Even in the vessels we own.

I'm chipping in $10, for the Navy to buy a GPS.

Would you like to donate as well?

http://www.indianpeoplewelfaresociety.org/images2/donation.jpg

Happy for you to tell us... how old the boats are what their guidance and positioning systems are and how accurate they are.

Considering how many times the incompetent Australian Navy have broken international laws, I'd say that the boats are pretty old, the guidance systems are obsolete, and their accuracy is quite poor.

They're probably using these:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wv5AsyslggQ/SxLABkXhe6I/AAAAAAAADnU/Ikqej6DRU2A/s320/T...

Not acceptable.

So, would you like to donate? Can I put you down for $10?

http://angelsgoal.org.au/wordpress-site/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/donate-button...

I was expecting you to say they were using them actually, based on your lack of reason and logic.
maybe they are using street directories eh. Cheesy

Still waiting for those answers BTW... waiting, waiting, waiting....
Maybe I should start an incessant tirade about you "cropping" my post and ignoring the rest of what I said and my questions... whadayathink? Roll Eyes

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #228 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 7:12pm Quote: qYou're like a small dog that thinks he has a very large bone Aussie. Boofy trying to brag he has a large bone again.
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #229 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 7:15pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 6:59pm:

Still waiting for those answers BTW... waiting, waiting, waiting....

Put your glasses on, old boy.

I'll type the answers again, but slowly this time ... so you can keep up.

"Considering how many times the incompetent Australian Navy have broken international laws, I'd say that the boats are pretty old, the guidance systems are obsolete, and their accuracy is quite poor."

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #230 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 7:50pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 6:56pm:

Can't work out what ropes are for eh.

How far is towing a boat back to Indonesia?
1m
10m
100m
1km
or is it actually to a port or landfall Grin

When is a Customs vessel a Naval vessel?

You're like a small dog that thinks he has a very large bone Aussie.

Oh and the Orange boats are Lifeboats.
How does a vessel that cannot carry one or launch one actually address that problem? Surely they wouldn't tow it would they? Cheesy

BTW I'm happy with your scenario. What's your problem with it?

Why? Do you reckon that is what is actually happening?

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #231 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 9:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 7:15pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 6:59pm:

Still waiting for those answers BTW... waiting, waiting, waiting....

Put your glasses on, old boy.

I'll type the answers again, but slowly this time ... so you can keep up.

"Considering how many times the incompetent Australian Navy have broken international laws, I'd say that the boats are pretty old, the guidance systems are obsolete, and their accuracy is quite poor."

So you don't know then eh....
Here you were giving everyone the impression you actually knew something. Roll Eyes

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #232 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:07pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 9:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 7:15pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 6:59pm:

Still waiting for those answers BTW... waiting, waiting, waiting....

Put your glasses on, old boy.

I'll type the answers again, but slowly this time ... so you can keep up.

"Considering how many times the incompetent Australian Navy have broken international laws, I'd say that the boats are pretty old, the guidance systems are obsolete, and their accuracy is quite poor."

So you don't know then eh....
Here you were giving everyone the impression you actually knew something. Roll Eyes

No: I never gave anyone, any impression about anything.

You were the one who asked the childish questions.

Subsequently, I gave you my honest answers:

"Considering how many times the incompetent Australian Navy have broken international laws, I'd say that the boats are pretty old, the guidance systems are obsolete, and their accuracy is quite poor."

You really should try harder.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58629 Here Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #233 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:19pm If the ships in our navy are not using a modern global positioning system to plot their location to within 1 metre the relevant minister should be shot. It is simply not believable that a current naval vessel would not have a very accurate positioning system when the average weekend pleasure craft does.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58629 Here Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #234 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:22pm The captain's and half the crew's mobile phones would all be capable of telling exactly where they were down to a few metres.
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #235 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:07pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 9:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 7:15pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 6:59pm:

Still waiting for those answers BTW... waiting, waiting, waiting....

Put your glasses on, old boy.

I'll type the answers again, but slowly this time ... so you can keep up.

"Considering how many times the incompetent Australian Navy have broken international laws, I'd say that the boats are pretty old, the guidance systems are obsolete, and their accuracy is quite poor."

So you don't know then eh....
Here you were giving everyone the impression you actually knew something. Roll Eyes

No: I never gave anyone, any impression about anything.

You were the one who asked the childish questions.

Subsequently, I gave you my honest answers:

"Considering how many times the incompetent Australian Navy have broken international laws, I'd say that the boats are pretty old, the guidance systems are obsolete, and their accuracy is quite poor."

You really should try harder.

You're not foolin anyone except yourself and the Prog cheer squad there Peccerhead.
You started us off with your inane post... trying to ridicule what I posted, then couldn't supply the answers.
No use knocking something if you don't know the facts peccer... you've been shown to be a fraud on this one. All piss and wind no substance.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #236 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:57pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:22pm:

The captain's and half the crew's mobile phones would all be capable of telling exactly where they were down to a few metres.

Even Peccer got my point DNA. You need to sit down, relax and have a good long think.
Or maybe read up on the subject.
perhaps you'd like to answer the questions he couldn't? Cheesy

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