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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #30 - Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:27pm Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:20pm: Yes, it's all a hatchet job, tendentious and untrue. Which parts are untrue Soren?
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #31 - Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:34pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:27pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:20pm:

Yes, it's all a hatchet job, tendentious and untrue.

Which parts are untrue Soren?

He won’t say. It’s tendentious, you see.

The old boy prefers robotic, reflex party line and no living thought.

All absence of life is a miracle to the old boy. It does inspire him so.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #32 - Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:37pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:34pm:

Stratos wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:27pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:20pm:

Yes, it's all a hatchet job, tendentious and untrue.

Which parts are untrue Soren?

He won’t say. It’s tendentious, you see.

The old boy prefers robotic, reflex party line and no living thought.

All absence of life is a miracle to the old boy. It does inspire him so.

All of it is untrue.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #33 - Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:47pm

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:37pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:34pm:

Stratos wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:27pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:20pm:

Yes, it's all a hatchet job, tendentious and untrue.

Which parts are untrue Soren?

He won’t say. It’s tendentious, you see.

The old boy prefers robotic, reflex party line and no living thought.

All absence of life is a miracle to the old boy. It does inspire him so.

All of it is untrue.

Ah. I’ll bet it’s tendentious too, no?

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #34 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:05am This is before LIBs discovered a $300B blackhole in Labor's Budget
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #35 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:11am Interesting that wise-one's only source of anti-LIBs info is from the independentaustralia
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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95912 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #36 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:47am Maqqa wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:05am: This is before LIBs discovered a $300B blackhole in Labor's Budget Ah. How’s this one for tendentious, old boy? He’s even got a sum.
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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95912 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #37 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:49am Maqqa wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:11am: Interesting that wise-one's only source of anti-LIBs info is from the independentaustralia Yes, I know, we’ve been discussing that. No chuckling, Maqqa. You need to sulk, moan, and head off to bed. In that order. Oh - you have.
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #38 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 5:24am

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:32pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:26pm:

Chardonnay socialist prog vanity blog.

Is any of it incorrect?

Yes, it's all a hatchet job, tendentious and untrue.

You tell me which part of it is actually true, you tell me which election promise has been broken.

Read the article . . . .

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #39 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:14am

Promise #25 - Boat tow backs

What the nuts at IA say he said: "Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs … There is a world of difference between turning boats around in Australian waters and the Australian Navy towing them back to Indonesia."

What he actually said: "Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs. Our policy, which we have repeated till we are blue in the face, is that we reserve the right to turn boats around where it is safe to do so. There is a world of difference between turning boats around in Australian waters and the Australian Navy towing them back to Indonesia. There is just a world of difference and if I may say so, there has been a tendency of people to put to other people what is not the Coalition’s policy in an attempt to, I think, generate a headline rather than constructively address this issue."

The highlighted bit was missing from IA's selective editing of "broken promise" number 25. He hasn't broken a promise at all. He is turning boats around, as he promised to do before the election and for the entire time he was Opposition Leader. IA's bull$hit meter: extreme!

Promise #19 - No deals with the Greens

Last August Abbott insisted most emphatically that he would never “... do cheap and tawdry deals with the Greens.”

Barely in office, the government swooped on the chance to cut a deal with the Greens to remove the debt ceiling.

After years in opposition condemning Labor’s relatively modest debt, this is as tawdry as it comes.

Actually, there was no deal made with the Greens. A deal means the Greens get something in return and they got nothing. It was a very rare case of the Greens showing some common sense on issues other than the environment. IA's bull$hit meter: very high!

Promise #18: Sophie Mirabella

When the divisive former Liberal Party member for Indi lost her seat in a surprise rejection by voters, Abbott declared that there would be no government job for Mirabella.

Just kidding!

She is now on the board of the submarine maintenance body.

Actually, way back in 1985 Kockums, Chicago Bridge & Iron, Wormald International and the Australian Industry Development Corporation joined forces and formed the Australian Submarine Corporation. It's not government owned or run. IA's bull$hit meter: extreme!

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #40 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:34am

Maqqa wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:11am:

Interesting that wise-one's only source of anti-LIBs info is from the independentaustralia

Not when you consider the fact-drought and outright sycophancy of
the MSM towards the con-servatives, it isn't.

The MSM is complicit in the betrayal of Australia, and has both blood
and dirt on its hands.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #41 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:42am

Kat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:34am:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:11am:

Interesting that wise-one's only source of anti-LIBs info is from the independentaustralia

Not when you consider the fact-drought and outright sycophancy of
the MSM towards the con-servatives, it isn't.

The MSM is complicit in the betrayal of Australia, and has both blood
and dirt on its hands.

You're spot-on about that with ABC's handling of the illegal immigrants' lies about the Navy torturing their hands! That is a despicable betrayal of our country and our navy.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #42 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:45am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:14am:

Promise #25 - Boat tow backs

What the nuts at IA say he said: "Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs … There is a world of difference between turning boats around in Australian waters and the Australian Navy towing them back to Indonesia."

What he actually said: "Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs. Our policy, which we have repeated till we are blue in the face, is that we reserve the right to turn boats around where it is safe to do so. There is a world of difference between turning boats around in Australian waters and the Australian Navy towing them back to Indonesia. There is just a world of difference and if I may say so, there has been a tendency of people to put to other people what is not the Coalition’s policy in an attempt to, I think, generate a headline rather than constructively address this issue."

The highlighted bit was missing from IA's selective editing of "broken promise" number 25. He hasn't broken a promise at all. He is turning boats around, as he promised to do before the election and for the entire time he was Opposition Leader. IA's bull$hit meter: extreme!

You're splitting hairs.

Abbott the Mendacious clearly denied tow-backs. Yet we have footage of Navy ships using ropes to tow asylum seekers in boats back to Indonesia. That rope between the ships is not there for decoration.

You are also being hypocritical, getting all hot and bothered about context after you did the same to Gillard over one quotation, over and over, for nearly three years. If you think you have the right to beat up "carbon tax" out of context, you have no right, no right whatsoever to complain if others point out that Abbott repudiated tow backs.

"Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs." He said it. He said it very clearly. He lied.

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Promise #19 - No deals with the Greens

Last August Abbott insisted most emphatically that he would never “... do cheap and tawdry deals with the Greens.”

Barely in office, the government swooped on the chance to cut a deal with the Greens to remove the debt ceiling.

After years in opposition condemning Labor’s relatively modest debt, this is as tawdry as it comes.
Actually, there was no deal made with the Greens. A deal means the Greens get something in return and they got nothing. It was a very rare case of the Greens showing some common sense on issues other than the environment. IA's bull$hit meter: very high!

You're just making up crap. Since when do you get to define what a "deal" is? How do you know there's no hidden commitment on other future legislation?

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Promise #18: Sophie Mirabella

When the divisive former Liberal Party member for Indi lost her seat in a surprise rejection by voters, Abbott declared that there would be no government job for Mirabella.

Just kidding!

She is now on the board of the submarine maintenance body.

Actually, way back in 1985 Kockums, Chicago Bridge & Iron, Wormald International and the Australian Industry Development Corporation joined forces and formed the Australian Submarine Corporation. It's not government owned or run. IA's bull$hit meter: extreme!

So how did she get that job, hmm? Sending out her resume and competing with 300 other applications and sitting through four interviews? Not bloody likely. More likely, it was the Liberal party pulling the strings so Liberal party hacks like Mirabella can get comfortable jobs after politics without having to work to get them or keep them.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #43 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:50am

Bam wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:45am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:14am:

Promise #25 - Boat tow backs

What the nuts at IA say he said: "Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs … There is a world of difference between turning boats around in Australian waters and the Australian Navy towing them back to Indonesia."

What he actually said: "Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs. Our policy, which we have repeated till we are blue in the face, is that we reserve the right to turn boats around where it is safe to do so. There is a world of difference between turning boats around in Australian waters and the Australian Navy towing them back to Indonesia. There is just a world of difference and if I may say so, there has been a tendency of people to put to other people what is not the Coalition’s policy in an attempt to, I think, generate a headline rather than constructively address this issue."

The highlighted bit was missing from IA's selective editing of "broken promise" number 25. He hasn't broken a promise at all. He is turning boats around, as he promised to do before the election and for the entire time he was Opposition Leader. IA's bull$hit meter: extreme!

You're splitting hairs.

Abbott the Mendacious clearly denied tow-backs. Yet we have footage of Navy ships using ropes to tow asylum seekers in boats back to Indonesia. That rope between the ships is not there for decoration.

You are also being hypocritical, getting all hot and bothered about context after you did the same to Gillard over one quotation, over and over, for nearly three years. If you think you have the right to beat up "carbon tax" out of context, you have no right, no right whatsoever to complain if others point out that Abbott repudiated tow backs.

"Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs." He said it. He said it very clearly. He lied.

Are we towing them back to Indonesia? No. Are we towing them out of our waters, yes, if they don't go willingly. No broken promises here!

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Promise #19 - No deals with the Greens

Last August Abbott insisted most emphatically that he would never “... do cheap and tawdry deals with the Greens.”

Barely in office, the government swooped on the chance to cut a deal with the Greens to remove the debt ceiling.

After years in opposition condemning Labor’s relatively modest debt, this is as tawdry as it comes.
Actually, there was no deal made with the Greens. A deal means the Greens get something in return and they got nothing. It was a very rare case of the Greens showing some common sense on issues other than the environment. IA's bull$hit meter: very high!

You're just making up crap. Since when do you get to define what a "deal" is? How do you know there's no hidden commitment on other future legislation?

You think the Greens could possibly ever keep quiet about something they got out of Abbott? Of course not. The Greens got nothing except VERY rare praise.

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Promise #18: Sophie Mirabella

When the divisive former Liberal Party member for Indi lost her seat in a surprise rejection by voters, Abbott declared that there would be no government job for Mirabella.

Just kidding!

She is now on the board of the submarine maintenance body.

Actually, way back in 1985 Kockums, Chicago Bridge & Iron, Wormald International and the Australian Industry Development Corporation joined forces and formed the Australian Submarine Corporation. It's not government owned or run. IA's bull$hit meter: extreme!

So how did she get that job, hmm? Sending out her resume and competing with 300 other applications and sitting through four interviews? Not bloody likely. More likely, it was the Liberal party pulling the strings so Liberal party hacks like Mirabella can get comfortable jobs after politics without having to work to get them or keep them.

Even if you were right, which you're not, it is nothing compared to the nepotism/jobs for the boys that exists when Labor is on office. How do you not know Mirabella was not sought out by ASC? She clearly has the credentials for the job.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #44 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:16am

Armpit you are an idiot .... now you're changing your argument from 'he never promised to not tow boats' to 'but we aren't towing them back to Indonesia' Grin

pathetic

Oh, and please show us what credentials Sophina Mirrabella has to be on a board about submarines? By the way, Giving sailors blow jobs does not qualify as a qualification.

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