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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #45 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:22am Sophie does have a great set of lips, in fact that's all she has going for her.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74702 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #46 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:26am skippy. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:22am: Sophie does have a great set of lips, in fact that's all she has going for her. you'd need to be careful you cut the hole in the bag in the correct position though ..... you wouldn't want to poke her in the eye.
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25983 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #47 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:26am skippy. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:22am: Sophie does have a great set of lips, in fact that's all she has going for her. Which is still far more than you have ever or will ever have going for you, that's for sure!
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74702 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #48 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:27am Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:26am: skippy. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:22am: Sophie does have a great set of lips, in fact that's all she has going for her. Which is still far more than you have ever or will ever have going for you, that's for sure! you don't like Skips lips?
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #49 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:35am

John Smith wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:16am:

Armpit you are an idiot .... now you're changing your argument from 'he never promised to not tow boats' to 'but we aren't towing them back to Indonesia' Grin

pathetic

Oh, and please show us what credentials Sophina Mirrabella has to be on a board about submarines? By the way, Giving sailors blow jobs does not qualify as a qualification.

Worried she's going to muscle in on your territory, eh?

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #50 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:38am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:35am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:16am:

Armpit you are an idiot .... now you're changing your argument from 'he never promised to not tow boats' to 'but we aren't towing them back to Indonesia' Grin

pathetic

Oh, and please show us what credentials Sophina Mirrabella has to be on a board about submarines? By the way, Giving sailors blow jobs does not qualify as a qualification.

Worried she's going to muscle in on your territory, eh?

you upset you might miss out ?.... not to worry, a staunch lib like you, I'm sure Matty could have a word with her to give you one for the team ...

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #51 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 10:01am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:50am:

Bam wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:45am:

[quote author=ArmchairPolitician link=1391836204/39#39 date=1391890450]Promise #25 - Boat tow backs

What the nuts at IA say he said: "Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs … There is a world of difference between turning boats around in Australian waters and the Australian Navy towing them back to Indonesia."

What he actually said: "Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs. Our policy, which we have repeated till we are blue in the face, is that we reserve the right to turn boats around where it is safe to do so. There is a world of difference between turning boats around in Australian waters and the Australian Navy towing them back to Indonesia. There is just a world of difference and if I may say so, there has been a tendency of people to put to other people what is not the Coalition’s policy in an attempt to, I think, generate a headline rather than constructively address this issue."

The highlighted bit was missing from IA's selective editing of "broken promise" number 25. He hasn't broken a promise at all. He is turning boats around, as he promised to do before the election and for the entire time he was Opposition Leader. IA's bull$hit meter: extreme!

You're splitting hairs.

Abbott the Mendacious clearly denied tow-backs. Yet we have footage of Navy ships using ropes to tow asylum seekers in boats back to Indonesia. That rope between the ships is not there for decoration.

You are also being hypocritical, getting all hot and bothered about context after you did the same to Gillard over one quotation, over and over, for nearly three years. If you think you have the right to beat up "carbon tax" out of context, you have no right, no right whatsoever to complain if others point out that Abbott repudiated tow backs.

"Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs." He said it. He said it very clearly. He lied.

Are we towing them back to Indonesia? No. Are we towing them out of our waters, yes, if they don't go willingly. No broken promises here!

You are moving the goal posts.

Did Abbott deny that boats would be towed? Yes. "Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs."
Are we towing them? Yes. See video footage for details.

He denied tow backs would occur. He lied.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #52 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 10:04am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:50am:

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Promise #19 - No deals with the Greens

Last August Abbott insisted most emphatically that he would never “... do cheap and tawdry deals with the Greens.”

Barely in office, the government swooped on the chance to cut a deal with the Greens to remove the debt ceiling.

After years in opposition condemning Labor’s relatively modest debt, this is as tawdry as it comes.
Actually, there was no deal made with the Greens. A deal means the Greens get something in return and they got nothing. It was a very rare case of the Greens showing some common sense on issues other than the environment. IA's bull$hit meter: very high!

You're just making up crap. Since when do you get to define what a "deal" is? How do you know there's no hidden commitment on other future legislation?

You think the Greens could possibly ever keep quiet about something they got out of Abbott? Of course not. The Greens got nothing except VERY rare praise.

The Greens did get something out of it. Their policy of scrapping the debt ceiling was adopted by the Coalition.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #53 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 10:16am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:50am:

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Promise #18: Sophie Mirabella

When the divisive former Liberal Party member for Indi lost her seat in a surprise rejection by voters, Abbott declared that there would be no government job for Mirabella.

Just kidding!

She is now on the board of the submarine maintenance body.

Actually, way back in 1985 Kockums, Chicago Bridge & Iron, Wormald International and the Australian Industry Development Corporation joined forces and formed the Australian Submarine Corporation. It's not government owned or run. IA's bull$hit meter: extreme!

So how did she get that job, hmm? Sending out her resume and competing with 300 other applications and sitting through four interviews? Not bloody likely. More likely, it was the Liberal party pulling the strings so Liberal party hacks like Mirabella can get comfortable jobs after politics without having to work to get them or keep them.

Even if you were right, which you're not

So prove it.

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, it is nothing compared to the nepotism/jobs for the boys that exists when Labor is on office.

Tu quoque fallacies do not invalidate my argument.

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How do you not know Mirabella was not sought out by ASC?

How do you know that she was?

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She clearly has the credentials for the job.

And those credentials are? Did she serve in the military? Did she serve in the Navy? Does she have a nautical engineering background?

Being a member of the Liberal party and a former Liberal parliamentarian doesn't count.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38770 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #54 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 10:50am Let's get one thing very clear. The Australian Submarine Corporation is wholly owned by the Australian Government. Click here.
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #55 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 11:52am

cods wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:32pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:26pm:

John S wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 3:10pm:

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wiseone must be back on the pay list.... Roll Eyes

he really thinks anyone other than he and crow believe it ...did they mention stopping the boats..... Grin

did they mention labor lies about the debt.... Grin

did they mention their shares in the sour grape market. Grin

You are an amazing specimen, cods.
Because it is the independent, all abbots lies are lies in themselves.

No wonder tony has been able to turn the issue of navy burning asylum seekers into reporting by the abc, when the community includes dummies like you.

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Dnarever Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 58647 Here Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #56 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 11:59am stevieboy wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:12pm: Only 25, it seems like more. It is saying blatant broken promises, many more but with possibly some form of mitigation or point of debate.
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #57 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:08pm

Bam wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:32pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:26pm:

Chardonnay socialist prog vanity blog.

Is any of it incorrect?

No no, but that’s not the point.

Actually, that IS the point. None of the rightards have been able to refute the argument in whole or in part.

I think you will find that they like that it is only 25 named lies - They know it is really a lot worse for them - this is a good result for the conservatives.

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Reply #58 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 1:40pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:08pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:32pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:26pm:

Chardonnay socialist prog vanity blog.

Is any of it incorrect?

No no, but that’s not the point.

Actually, that IS the point. None of the rightards have been able to refute the argument in whole or in part.

I think you will find that they like that it is only 25 named lies - They know it is really a lot worse for them - this is a good result for the conservatives.

If we did a little digging, we might uncover a few more lies and broken promises from the Coalition.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #59 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 2:49pm

Bam wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:08pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:32pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:26pm:

Chardonnay socialist prog vanity blog.

Is any of it incorrect?

No no, but that’s not the point.

Actually, that IS the point. None of the rightards have been able to refute the argument in whole or in part.

I think you will find that they like that it is only 25 named lies - They know it is really a lot worse for them - this is a good result for the conservatives.

If we did a little digging, we might uncover a few more lies and broken promises from the Coalition.

And I doubt you'd need an excavator or a back-hoe either.

A child's beach-spade should suffice.

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