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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #60 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:25pm

Kat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 2:49pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:08pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:32pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:26pm:

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Is any of it incorrect?

No no, but that’s not the point.

Actually, that IS the point. None of the rightards have been able to refute the argument in whole or in part.

I think you will find that they like that it is only 25 named lies - They know it is really a lot worse for them - this is a good result for the conservatives.

If we did a little digging, we might uncover a few more lies and broken promises from the Coalition.

And I doubt you'd need an excavator or a back-hoe either.

A child's beach-spade should suffice.

Or a pointed stick wielded with a little enthusiasm.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #61 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:38pm

Bam wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

Kat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 2:49pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:08pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:32pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:26pm:

Chardonnay socialist prog vanity blog.

Is any of it incorrect?

No no, but that’s not the point.

Actually, that IS the point. None of the rightards have been able to refute the argument in whole or in part.

I think you will find that they like that it is only 25 named lies - They know it is really a lot worse for them - this is a good result for the conservatives.

If we did a little digging, we might uncover a few more lies and broken promises from the Coalition.

And I doubt you'd need an excavator or a back-hoe either.

A child's beach-spade should suffice.

Or a pointed stick wielded with a little enthusiasm.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #62 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:39pm

Kat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 2:49pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:08pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:32pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:26pm:

Chardonnay socialist prog vanity blog.

Is any of it incorrect?

No no, but that’s not the point.

Actually, that IS the point. None of the rightards have been able to refute the argument in whole or in part.

I think you will find that they like that it is only 25 named lies - They know it is really a lot worse for them - this is a good result for the conservatives.

If we did a little digging, we might uncover a few more lies and broken promises from the Coalition.

And I doubt you'd need an excavator or a back-hoe either.

A child's beach-spade should suffice.

On the other hand, you'd need one of those colossal-sized scoops used in open-cut mines to clean up the $hit and lies and broken promises left behind by six years of Labor.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #63 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:48pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:39pm:

Kat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 2:49pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:08pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:32pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:26pm:

Chardonnay socialist prog vanity blog.

Is any of it incorrect?

No no, but that’s not the point.

Actually, that IS the point. None of the rightards have been able to refute the argument in whole or in part.

I think you will find that they like that it is only 25 named lies - They know it is really a lot worse for them - this is a good result for the conservatives.

If we did a little digging, we might uncover a few more lies and broken promises from the Coalition.

And I doubt you'd need an excavator or a back-hoe either.

A child's beach-spade should suffice.

On the other hand, you'd need one of those colossal-sized scoops used in open-cut mines to clean up the $hit and lies and broken promises left behind by six years of Labor.

Oh, you mean the non-existent ones which you keep posting as if they're proven fact?

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John S Gold Member Offline Fascist Party = Liberal Party Posts: 3691 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #64 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:51pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:39pm: On the other hand, you'd need one of those colossal-sized scoops used in open-cut mines to clean up the $hit and lies and broken promises left behind by six years of Labor. What shyte, lies and broken promises are you talking about armpit.
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #65 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:54pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:39pm:

Kat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 2:49pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:08pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 10:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:32pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2014 at 4:26pm:

Chardonnay socialist prog vanity blog.

Is any of it incorrect?

No no, but that’s not the point.

Actually, that IS the point. None of the rightards have been able to refute the argument in whole or in part.

I think you will find that they like that it is only 25 named lies - They know it is really a lot worse for them - this is a good result for the conservatives.

If we did a little digging, we might uncover a few more lies and broken promises from the Coalition.

And I doubt you'd need an excavator or a back-hoe either.

A child's beach-spade should suffice.

On the other hand, you'd need one of those colossal-sized scoops used in open-cut mines to clean up the $hit and lies and broken promises left behind by six years of Labor.

Glad to see you back AP. Aren't you just a tad embarrassed about that 100% dishonest post you made when you claimed that the Australian Submarine Corporation was not Government owned and controlled?

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #66 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 4:34pm

John S wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:39pm:

On the other hand, you'd need one of those colossal-sized scoops used in open-cut mines to clean up the $hit and lies and broken promises left behind by six years of Labor.

What shyte, lies and broken promises are you talking about armpit.

The first lie is particularly telling of Labor's incompetence. Read this: https://lpaweb-static.s3.amazonaws.com/Labor_tells_lies_Sept%2012.pdf

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #67 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:07pm

How's it going AP? Do you want to apologise for this outright deliberate dishonesty?

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Actually, way back in 1985 Kockums, Chicago Bridge & Iron, Wormald International and the Australian Industry Development Corporation joined forces and formed the Australian Submarine Corporation. It's not government owned or run.

Anytime soon would be honourable.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #68 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 7:16pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:07pm:

How's it going AP? Do you want to apologise for this outright deliberate dishonesty?

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Actually, way back in 1985 Kockums, Chicago Bridge & Iron, Wormald International and the Australian Industry Development Corporation joined forces and formed the Australian Submarine Corporation. It's not government owned or run.

Anytime soon would be honourable.

Armpit is eating a sandwich. He'll not reply from this point on.

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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #69 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 7:59pm

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Now before all you libturds come on here and say that Julia

Gillard lied before the 2010 election, here is the FULL QUOTE not half the quote like you libturds keep posting and saying she lied.

“There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead, but lets be absolutely clear. I am determined to price carbon”. Julia Gillard

When the OP clearly lies in the first post, then nothing else can really be believed. Just because Juila lied doesn't mean its ok for you to lie about her lie.

You should try a bit harder to not lie. It's not a good look to be a liar. No one likes a liar.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #70 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 8:03pm That doesn't look like a first post.... Did someone get banned this morning?
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Sorryyouarewrong Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 127 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #71 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 8:06pm That was a first post. Now back to the topic of lying about Gillards lie.
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #72 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 8:16pm

Bam wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 10:01am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:50am:

Bam wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:45am:

[quote author=ArmchairPolitician link=1391836204/39#39 date=1391890450]Promise #25 - Boat tow backs

What the nuts at IA say he said: "Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs … There is a world of difference between turning boats around in Australian waters and the Australian Navy towing them back to Indonesia."

What he actually said: "Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs. Our policy, which we have repeated till we are blue in the face, is that we reserve the right to turn boats around where it is safe to do so. There is a world of difference between turning boats around in Australian waters and the Australian Navy towing them back to Indonesia. There is just a world of difference and if I may say so, there has been a tendency of people to put to other people what is not the Coalition’s policy in an attempt to, I think, generate a headline rather than constructively address this issue."

The highlighted bit was missing from IA's selective editing of "broken promise" number 25. He hasn't broken a promise at all. He is turning boats around, as he promised to do before the election and for the entire time he was Opposition Leader. IA's bull$hit meter: extreme!

You're splitting hairs.

Abbott the Mendacious clearly denied tow-backs. Yet we have footage of Navy ships using ropes to tow asylum seekers in boats back to Indonesia. That rope between the ships is not there for decoration.

You are also being hypocritical, getting all hot and bothered about context after you did the same to Gillard over one quotation, over and over, for nearly three years. If you think you have the right to beat up "carbon tax" out of context, you have no right, no right whatsoever to complain if others point out that Abbott repudiated tow backs.

"Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs." He said it. He said it very clearly. He lied.

Are we towing them back to Indonesia? No. Are we towing them out of our waters, yes, if they don't go willingly. No broken promises here!

You are moving the goal posts.

Did Abbott deny that boats would be towed? Yes. "Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs."
Are we towing them? Yes. See video footage for details.

He denied tow backs would occur. He lied.

Tow backs have been an integral part of Operation Sovereign Borders in which this policy was released to the public months before the election on the Liberal party website.
The public were well aware of this, and Abbott went to the election with it and won the election.
Your selective memory does you no credit whatsoever.
And tow backs will continue to be an integral part of a policy which has been very successful in the few months it has been active which is why it will remain despite the bleatings of the left side of politics or the Indonesians.
Smugglers boats will never be welcome in this country.

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Sorryyouarewrong Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 127 Gender:	Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days Reply #73 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 8:21pm It is understandable that the left side of politics are confused. It would be difficult for them to understand what a successful policy and outcome looks like, so this must come as a shock to their system.
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Re: 25 broken promise in 150 days
Reply #74 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 8:22pm

I haven't verified this, but assuming it to be an accurate quote of what Abbott said:

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What he actually said: "Can I just scotch this idea that the Coalition’s policy is or ever has been tow-backs. Our policy, which we have repeated till we are blue in the face, is that we reserve the right to turn boats around where it is safe to do so. There is a world of difference between turning boats around in Australian waters and the Australian Navy towing them back to Indonesia. There is just a world of difference ............

Your task, should you choose to accept it, is to explain what that means?

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