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Reply #105 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 5:22pm

Adamant wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 4:22pm:

I was speaking to a muslim mother today she stated she had been persistently raped by her muslim husband. She told me that all of the muslim wives she knows have been raped at one time or another by their husbands, she estimated that half of all muslim daughters had been raped anally by moslem fathers.

I find that a little hard to believe.

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Reply #106 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 7:24pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 5:15pm:

Adamant wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 4:22pm:

I was speaking to a muslim mother today she stated she had been persistently raped by her muslim husband. She told me that all of the muslim wives she knows have been raped at one time or another by their husbands, she estimated that half of all muslim daughters had been raped anally by moslem fathers.

There - now isn't it better to leave stupid posts for all to see its stupidity rather than running to the mod and demanding that he shut down debate?

Adamant should be banned effective immediately for his blatant lies.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: underage marriage in Sydney Reply #107 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 7:29pm wally1 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 7:24pm: Adamant should be banned effective immediately for his blatant lies. But on the same principle we'd have to sack every politician in Canberra ~ effective immediately.
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Re: underage marriage in Sydney
Reply #108 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 8:05pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 5:15pm:

Adamant wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 4:22pm:

I was speaking to a muslim mother today she stated she had been persistently raped by her muslim husband. She told me that all of the muslim wives she knows have been raped at one time or another by their husbands, she estimated that half of all muslim daughters had been raped anally by moslem fathers.

There - now isn't it better to leave stupid posts for all to see its stupidity rather than running to the mod and demanding that he shut down debate?

it is unfortunate but it is true, in this instance anyway!

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Re: underage marriage in Sydney
Reply #109 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 8:29pm

Adamant wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 8:05pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 5:15pm:

Adamant wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 4:22pm:

I was speaking to a muslim mother today she stated she had been persistently raped by her muslim husband. She told me that all of the muslim wives she knows have been raped at one time or another by their husbands, she estimated that half of all muslim daughters had been raped anally by moslem fathers.

There - now isn't it better to leave stupid posts for all to see its stupidity rather than running to the mod and demanding that he shut down debate?

it is unfortunate but it is true, in this instance anyway!

Poor lady.

I had a similar incident.I was at the train station today minding my own business waiting for my train,and this nun walked up to me, out of all people, and said the priests are repeatedly raping her and that majority or little girls in orphanages are anally raped. I just walked away, couldn't be fked to call the coppers, I couldnt wait to get home so I can tell my lovely friends on ozpolitics.

True story. Honestly, you have to believe me.

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Reply #111 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 10:59pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 5:15pm:

Adamant wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 4:22pm:

I was speaking to a muslim mother today she stated she had been persistently raped by her muslim husband. She told me that all of the muslim wives she knows have been raped at one time or another by their husbands, she estimated that half of all muslim daughters had been raped anally by moslem fathers.

There - now isn't it better to leave stupid posts for all to see its stupidity rather than running to the mod and demanding that he shut down debate?

Kudos to you gandalf, for allowing someone to post an opinion [on the ISLAM board], that does not coincide with your own that may offend you.

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Reply #112 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 9:01am

Here is part of True Colours original post I complained about.

True Colours wrote on Feb 9th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

I have been told by Christian Aussie mothers that they buy contraceptives for their 13 year-old daughters because they expect them to be acing sex at that age.

It was such a blatant lie I asked for it to be removed. The reply was "There is no rule against making baseless claims" Gandalf then deleted the item and lied about that.

The above proves beyond all doubt that it is ok to lie for islam.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: underage marriage in Sydney Reply #113 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 11:11am adamant you have no way of knowing TC's little anecdote is a lie, let alone a blatant one. Talk about hypocricy Basically you are demanding any unfalsifiable claim be deleted, rather than engage in debate. Stop whinging adamant, engage in the discussion constructively, or piss off.
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Reply #114 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 8:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 10:51am:

freediver wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 6:59am:

Should the cleric have alerted the authorities when the pedophile approached him and asked him to perform the marriage rites? Do you expect these people are aware of more such cases within the community?

Should they be "culturalising" the Muslim community that it is wrong to have sex with children?

I suspect that you are just baiting me, but obviously 'yes' on all counts. The islamic community should be taking more responsibility as I said from the beginning.

You avoided my question earlier about being sensitive to the religious beliefs of Muslims. If asking you a question counts as "baiting", then yes I was baiting you. I was trying to trick you into answering a question. Sorry about that.

I think it said in the paper this week that they had a wedding ceremony that was presided over by an Imam. If so, I think this raises serious questions about the ability of the Muslim community to reject and stamp out this behaviour, and the criminality of the father, imam and others who enabled this crime.

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Reply #115 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 9:27pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 5:15pm:

Adamant wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 4:22pm:

I was speaking to a muslim mother today she stated she had been persistently raped by her muslim husband. She told me that all of the muslim wives she knows have been raped at one time or another by their husbands, she estimated that half of all muslim daughters had been raped anally by moslem fathers.

Would that be a surprise when we consider the prevalence of Muslim inbreeding, and the "widespread" practice of "thighing"?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1390658615

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 5:15pm:

There - now isn't it better to leave stupid posts for all to see its stupidity rather than running to the mod and demanding that he shut down debate?

"Maldives president vetoes marital rape bill as 'un-Islamic'"

"The concept of marital rape is not recognised in Pakistani law....."

"There is no concept of marital rape in Islam"
http://muslimahdirections.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/there-is-no-marital-rape-in-i...

etc. etc.
https://www.google.com/#q=marital+rape+islam

Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

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Reply #116 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 9:42pm

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 8:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 10:51am:

freediver wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 6:59am:

Should the cleric have alerted the authorities when the pedophile approached him and asked him to perform the marriage rites? Do you expect these people are aware of more such cases within the community?

Should they be "culturalising" the Muslim community that it is wrong to have sex with children?

I suspect that you are just baiting me, but obviously 'yes' on all counts. The islamic community should be taking more responsibility as I said from the beginning.

You avoided my question earlier about being sensitive to the religious beliefs of Muslims. If asking you a question counts as "baiting", then yes I was baiting you. I was trying to trick you into answering a question. Sorry about that.

I think it said in the paper this week that they had a wedding ceremony that was presided over by an Imam.

If so, I think this raises serious questions about the ability of the Muslim community to reject and stamp out this behaviour, and the criminality of the father, imam and others who enabled this crime.

Try;
This raises serious questions about the WILLINGNESS of the moslem community [living in Australia] to even acknowledge that this particular behaviour, is a crime !

I have no doubt at all, that all moslems [all members of the moslem community living in Australia] understand that this particular behaviour, is a crime in this country !

SOLUTION;
We [Australians] should [enact laws, which will] punish moslems [when they break Australian laws], according to moslem/ISLAMIC punishments, for crimes that moslems commit in this country.

e.g.
If moslems living in Australia commit sedition....

"Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City....whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy)."

Koran 33.60,61

It is only just to punish moslem lawbreakers, according to [with] their own ISLAMIC law punishments.

gandalf,

What is the ISLAMIC law punishment for fornication out side of marriage [with children] ?

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Reply #117 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 9:58pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 9:42pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 8:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 10:51am:

freediver wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 6:59am:

Should the cleric have alerted the authorities when the pedophile approached him and asked him to perform the marriage rites? Do you expect these people are aware of more such cases within the community?

Should they be "culturalising" the Muslim community that it is wrong to have sex with children?

I suspect that you are just baiting me, but obviously 'yes' on all counts. The islamic community should be taking more responsibility as I said from the beginning.

You avoided my question earlier about being sensitive to the religious beliefs of Muslims. If asking you a question counts as "baiting", then yes I was baiting you. I was trying to trick you into answering a question. Sorry about that.

I think it said in the paper this week that they had a wedding ceremony that was presided over by an Imam.

If so, I think this raises serious questions about the ability of the Muslim community to reject and stamp out this behaviour, and the criminality of the father, imam and others who enabled this crime.

Try;
This raises serious questions about the WILLINGNESS of the moslem community [living in Australia] to even acknowledge that this particular behaviour, is a crime !

I have no doubt at all, that all moslems [all members of the moslem community living in Australia] understand that this particular behaviour, is a crime in this country !

AND IN ANY CASE, i am told that ignorance of the law, is not an excuse for criminal behaviour.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #119 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 11:06pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 9:42pm:

If moslems living in Australia commit sedition....

"Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City....whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy)."

Koran 33.60,61

And those hypocrites who falsely pretend Jihad is some sort of internal struggle, those self-deluded don't even realize they are calling for their own destruction, let alone the subjugation or destruction of their heirs:

http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm#muslim_hypocrite...

"Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari" - Maktba Dar-us-Salam's page 580
Chapter 2. The best among the people is that believer who strives his utmost in Allah's Cause with both his life and property.
footnotes:
[1] "Al-Jihad (the holy fighting) in Allah's Cause (with full force of number and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars (on which it stands). By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior, [His Word being La ilaha ill-Allah (which means: none has the right to be worshipped but Allah)] and His Religion (Islam) is propagated. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; there honour is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfill this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a
hypocrite
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[2] Of course, nobody can offer Salat (prayer) and observe Saum (fast) incessantly, and since the Muslim fighter is rewarded as if he was doing such good impossible deeds, no possible deed equals Jihad in reward.

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