freediver wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:59am:


By acknowledging that it is a problem, then being proactive in identifying where it happens. Mosques and other islamic organizations need to work closely with authorities to help stamp it out.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 11:17am:


No argument.

And thank you gandalf for stating that.



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But is any such action like that likely ???

...When mainstream moslems like Dr Ameer Ali make statements comparing Australian and ISLAMIC values, like this;



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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20545617-1702,00.html

[the link may be defunct, but the article is kosher]

Google;
"Australia a Muslim nation" "Dr Ameer Ali"


Do the words used by Dr Ameer Ali carry any suggestion that moslems have an introspective nature, and that moslems are willing to examine [critically], their own moslem cultural mores ?


Dictionary;
introspect = = examine one’s own thoughts or feelings.


For myself, i do not believe, i cannot believe, that moslems are willing to examine [critically], their own cultural mores.

Rather, there seems to be a conveyed suggestion by Dr Ameer Ali, that Australians and followers of ISLAM share a very similar morality, and that we all share very similar cultural mores ?

So, what is being conveyed [by people like by Dr Ameer Ali], is that there is no cause for the wider Australian community to be concerned about the cultural mores that are held by moslems.

But to me, in all of their communications with non-moslems, moslems seem more desirous of deceiving non-moslems [and of repeatedly misrepresenting ISLAM to the wider non-moslem community], rather than being intent on speaking candidly and openly to their non-moslem hosts, about the nature of ISLAM and about the nature of the cultural mores which moslems do embrace.

Why am i wrong ?




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At least in the form of words that Dr Ameer Ali used, he appears correct in one regard;



Many [modern] Australians are liars, and self deceivers, and we hate confronting what is true, about ourselves, imo.

Schapelle Corby, Simon Gittany, Tony Mokbel, and all of the Saturday night wanna-be street gangsters, et al.



Modern Australian society, is morphing into a criminal shi t hole, imo.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 11:17am:


Yes, that’s just the sort of sinister response we’d expect from a Muslim.

I’m sure FD will do some probing to get to your real beliefs on the matter.

Take it from here, FD.

The Lebanese who came under the humanitarian program between 1976-1978 were over 70% muslim. This was the wave of unskilled refugees (although Fraser refused to acknowledge them as refugees) fleeing war and came with nothing, and were provided with nothing.

Christian migrants were mostly skilled, had money and had far stronger community and family support networks when they arrived. People like Eddie Obeid.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:13pm:
The Vietnamese had no education and they aren't doing massive amounts of crime.

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Is there any scientific reason for this or did politicians just pull the number 18 out of their ar$e?

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If the male in this case was a 13 year-old boyfriend having sex with his 12 year-old girlfriend, hardly anybody in Australia would have cared at all.

I have been told by Christian Aussie mothers that they buy contraceptives for their 13 year-old daughters because they expect them to be having sex at that age.

True Colours wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 1:07pm:
Because you keep writing 18 I assume you mean marriage. It's 16 for sex. Sex is based on scientific studies which centre on  the psychological ability to make personal decisions and biological reasons. For example a female can conceive at 12 or 13 but the possibility of physical damage during childbirth is very possible. That is a few of the reasons why in our society it's illegal for grown scumbag perverts to have sex with little girls.