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Reply #645 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 8:01am
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 6th, 2014 at 11:55pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 6th, 2014 at 11:32pm:
Yadda wrote on Mar 6th, 2014 at 10:53pm:
Just because we don't know the true extent of the problem of moslem child marriages in Australia,       does not mean that the problem of child marriages within the moslem community [within Australia], is not prevalent.


Fantastic observation Y.

Similarly, just because we don't know for sure that there isn't a giant purple monkey jumping around the moon - doesn't mean he isn't there.

And like your example, it is far wiser to operate on the assumption that there absolutely *IS* a giant purple monkey jumping around the moon, wouldn't you agree Y?


I agree. We have, of course reliable evidence of a Christian epidemic of child sexual abuse in Australia. I seem to remember something in the news about it.

But this spineless apologetics by Y simply has to stop. Y denounces paedophile priests for having a bit of harmless fun. But when evidence of two Moslem child marriages is uncovered, he pretends it’s not an epidemic.

How utterly, utterly pathetic..





Pathetic ?

[Yadda holds up a mirror to Karnal.]

Karnal, apologist for cultural child abuse
because 1/ 'it is none of our business'
because 2/ 'it may not be happening'.



"Oh don't look!!!
Because we may find something!!!
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Re: underage marriage in Sydney
Reply #646 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 9:04am
 
Appears you don't have to marry them if they are Christian!

"A nine year old Christian girl in Jordan was captured by Muslims who brutally raped her for 19 days. She was from Iraq and lived in Jordan as a refugee. After 19 days of sexual torture, she was rescued by Sister Hatune Dogan, an Eastern Orthodox nun, who payed 33,000 US dollars to ransom the tormented girl."

http://shoebat.com/2014/02/25/muslims-capture-9-year-old-christian-girl-brutally-rape-19-days-3/
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Reply #647 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 9:09am
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 6th, 2014 at 10:29pm:
K,

THIS IS HOW I EXPRESSED MYSELF.......



That's a relief, Y. You see, you never described an epidemic - you described an explosion:

Yadda wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 12:10pm:
An explosion in the numbers of under-age marriages, and forced marriages, here in Australia ???


Personally, it reads as if you want underage marriage to be happening in Australia. And why not? It will make it easier for us to arrest them and remove their daughters.

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Because we may find something!!!
  -  THEN WE WILL BE IN TROUBLE!!!!"


Looking, eh? That's a relief. It's good to know you're just keeping an eye on the Moselms, Y. You wouldn't want to start accusing them of "explosions" before you had any evidence, would you?

You wouldn't want to accuse them of "explosions" based on the evidence that an "explosion" isn't actually happening but may well be happening, or is happening in other countries, or possibly one day might happen. You wouldn't want to do that, Y.

It's not the Christian thing to do, and you never said any of it.

Christians aren't perfect, Y, just forgiven.
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Re: underage marriage in Sydney
Reply #648 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 9:14am
 
Adamant wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 9:04am:
Appears you don't have to marry them if they are Christian!

"A nine year old Christian girl in Jordan was captured by Muslims who brutally raped her for 19 days. She was from Iraq and lived in Jordan as a refugee. After 19 days of sexual torture, she was rescued by Sister Hatune Dogan, an Eastern Orthodox nun, who payed 33,000 US dollars to ransom the tormented girl."

http://shoebat.com/2014/02/25/muslims-capture-9-year-old-christian-girl-brutally-rape-19-days-3/


That sort of thing's happening in Australia, Adamant. We just don't know about it yet.
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Reply #649 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 9:37am
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 9:14am:
Adamant wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 9:04am:
Appears you don't have to marry them if they are Christian!

"A nine year old Christian girl in Jordan was captured by Muslims who brutally raped her for 19 days. She was from Iraq and lived in Jordan as a refugee. After 19 days of sexual torture, she was rescued by Sister Hatune Dogan, an Eastern Orthodox nun, who payed 33,000 US dollars to ransom the tormented girl."

http://shoebat.com/2014/02/25/muslims-capture-9-year-old-christian-girl-brutally-rape-19-days-3/


That sort of thing's happening in Australia, Adamant.

We just don't know about it yet.





Short memory, K ?

Yeah, of course.





"....hunting for non-Muslim teenage girls they regarded as "Aussie sluts"..."



".....up to fourteen Lebanese Australian youths led by Bilal Skaf..."




Google;
gang rapist Bilal Skaf


Google;
Bilal Skaf, aussie sluts


Google;
Bilal Skaf, "no right to say no"




K,

Why would Bilal Skaf have said in court, that his victims, the victims he raped,
"she has no right to say no"
???


"Well let me thinks, Yadda  .......Ah yes!

.....It has got nuffin to do wiv ISLAM Yadda."




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Re: underage marriage in Sydney
Reply #650 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 10:47am
 
True, Y. Bilal Skaf clearly wanted to marry his victim.

Yet more evidence of the child marriage explosion in Australia, no?
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Re: underage marriage in Sydney
Reply #651 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 10:47am
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 9:37am:
Why would Bilal Skaf have said in court, that his victims, the victims he raped, "she has no right to say no" ???


Because he's a rapist comes to mind.  The man is a psychopath with no empathy for anyone.
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Reply #652 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 10:50am
 
Stratos wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 10:47am:
Yadda wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 9:37am:
Why would Bilal Skaf have said in court, that his victims, the victims he raped, "she has no right to say no" ???


Because he's a rapist comes to mind.  The man is a psychopath with no empathy for anyone.


True, Stratos, but Bilal Skaf's psychopathy is a mere reflection of the Grand Mufti's statements on child marriage.

Bilal Skaf would have raped his victims even if he had been married to them - yet more proof of the child marriage explosion.

Each one of his victims was a potential Moslem bride.
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Reply #653 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 12:27pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 6th, 2014 at 7:31pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 6th, 2014 at 1:09pm:
How could he get Centrelink benefits? He was on a student visa.



From the article gandalf linked to in the opening post:

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/alleged-underage-marriage-uncovered-when-a-12yearold-child-bride-and-husband-26-tried-to-apply-for-spousal-benefits/story-fnii5s3x-1226821090301

AN alleged underage marriage was uncovered this week when a 12-year-old child bride and her 26-year-old husband tried to apply for spousal benefits, according to government sources.

It's the very first line in the article.


Some clarification on the above. Centrelink do not offer a "spousal benefit". A payment called "partner allowance" exists, but no new claims were issued after 2003. Couples receiving Newstart payments now make separate claims, but their payment factors in any partner's income.

It is possible the journalist confused "spousal-benefits" with Special Benefits. A 14 year old girl living away from home would be entitled to such benefits.

Youth Allowance is paid to young people over 16. Those who have left home and can't live with their parents for an assessed reason may be entitled to Special Benefits. A Centrelink social worker assesses the claim on a case by case basis.

As the "husband" was on a student visa, he was not elligible for any payment. Centrelink refer foreign students undergoing hardship to their respective country's consulate.

If the girl, an Australian citizen, could justify a good reason for moving away from home, she may have been entitled to Special Benefits.

Informing Centrelink of an illegal "marriage", however, was not very smart - if this is what actually happened.

Girls under 14 are rarely granted Special Benefits. This is because Centrelink has agreements with each state's Child Protection agency to pay foster care allowances to carers rather than providing a minor with their own income. If a young person under 14 is living away from home, the "Centrelink protocol" is invoked and child protection services must do a risk assessment and authorise any carers.

I know of several underage girls on Special Benefits who live with older boys or men. This is a lot more common than people think, and no - none of the girls I know are Muslims.

Given the small number I'm aware of, I'm not broadcasting a non-Muslim epidemic of underage defacto "marriages". The census figures speak for themselves, but I doubt any of the kids I know fill out census forms.
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Reply #654 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 12:37pm
 
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No I retracted this - remember?


Then I add the charge of going back on your word. And find you guilty, on both counts.

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Why do you think it something worth deriding someone over?


I think there was more to your insistence that the Muslim community must take responsibility and tackle the issue head on. Normally you are eager to make excuses and seek ambiguity, or even demand proof.

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We literally have one, maybe two cases here, and 40 pages worth of muslim bashing over it.


You started it. I was the one suggesting you need to be more sensitive to the religious beliefs of Muslims.

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Why on earth would you criticise me for this if you can't even come close to making a case that my original claim was correct?


Are you demanding proof of your original claim?

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Well we all know the answer to that - because any sort of criticism of muslims is good in your book - completely irrespective of whether or not it is true.


Taking responsibility and tackling issues head on is not criticism.

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So clearly you *DO* believe that child marriage is a "problem" in the Australian muslim community, but on what basis? Your entire case to date is based on facts that have been demonstrated to be irrelevant or just plain false.


Not true, and I have listed them many times.

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It still comes down to a single case, and building an entire horror story solely around that.


Karnal keeps talking about a second case.
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Reply #655 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 1:47pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 12:37pm:
Karnal keeps talking about a second case.


This is the second child marriage I'm talking about, FD, kindly referenced by the old boy.

Soren wrote on Feb 27th, 2014 at 10:01pm:
Shame of our child brides: Court hears how woman was raped and beaten as it’s revealed hundreds are forced into arranged and unregistered marriages across NSW


A 14-YEAR-OLD girl was forced into an Islamic marriage with a western Sydney drug gang member who raped and beat her and later physically abused their daughter.

Details of the now 25-year old victim’s ordeal surfaced in the Federal Circuit Court where the victim was fighting to have the man banned from seeing their daughter.

So appalling was the woman's life of abuse, which included claims that her father told her she could only leave her marriage “in a coffin”, that Judge Joseph Harman made an unprecedented public appeal in his judgment for authorities to act.

The story came to light after the Daily Telegraph reported the arrest of a man who had been living with a 12-year-old as his wife in Sydney.

The imam who married the pair, Riaz Tasawar, was yesterday arrested by police.
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Eman Sharobeem from the Immigrant Women’s Health Service said hundreds of children as young as 11 were being sent overseas to be married after being “shopped” on Facebook. “It’s far more prevalent and well-known than people think,” she said.

Dr Sharobeem said not enough was being done to build awareness about underage marriage. “Regulation needs to be put in place within different religions,” she said. “If we are talking about Australian law, every marriage should be under Australian law,”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/shame-of-our-child-brides-court-hears-...

Your grinning attempts to cover up and slime the obvious is thoroughly disgusting and contemptible, PB. Just f vck disgusting.


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The Tele reports this as an "Islamic" marriage, but no details have been provided of any actual marriage.

The girl was 14 at the time, and alledges that her "husband" was 21.

I've checked the few online news stories for more info, but no details of charges, pending convictions or any substantiated information has been provided. The information is based on the now 25 year old's testimony, submited to the Federal Circuit Court.

The Federal Circuit Court is not a criminal court. It's designed to be an alternative to litigation in the civil courts and the Family Court of Australia.

The headlines have shrieked: EXCLUSIVE: THE husband of a 14-year-old who was repeatedly raped after a forced marriage looks set to escape punishment.

I'm not sure of the legals here, but as far as I can see, these are allegations. I have no idea why the Herald Sun who published this "exclusive" have not written "alledgedly" repeatedly raped. It's possible that there are different reporting standards for civil cases as opposed to criminal cases.

Again, this "marriage" is an allegation by a litigant. From what I can tell, there are no criminal charges or convictions. The article says the woman is fighting to have her ex "husband" refused access to her child.

As the article says, the evil Muslim "husband" looks set to escape punishment. This means that there is either not enough evidence, or he is not guilty of underage marriage and rape. Both are serious crimes and would definitely be reported to police by a civil court or the victim herself if there was enough evidence to suggest guilt.

Interesting how the papers spin these things, don't you think? This case has been reported along with the other case to provide justification for the epidemic. No details have been provided, and the bi-line reads "it’s revealed hundreds are forced into arranged and unregistered marriages across NSW".

As we know, the "evidence" is self-reported census figures of non-Muslim underage defacto relationships, none of them forced or arranged.

Looks like we're back to evidence of ONE Muslim underage marriage in Sydney, but alas - the evidence so far suggests that that wasn't forced or arranged either.

One marriage down, FD, "hundreds" to go.

GUILTY.
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Reply #656 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 2:54pm
 
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Moses, I think that is the second funny one from EJ you have posted, but I can't find them anywhere else online. Where are you getting them from?


It's very hard to find him FD (I think). His christian name was Hewaza, apparently he was a truthful prominent scribe of the 7th century, who knew muhammad backwards. The works of Hewaza Etheopianjew were outlawed by muslims because muslims have an aversion to truth, muhammad had poets /satirists murdered because they showed the stupidity of islam through humour (hence the revelation that laughter kills the heart).

Hewaza lives on today, by those of us who show the evilness, stupidity and cult mentality of islam and muslims, through a  bit of drollness.

Long live the memory of Hewaza Etheopianjew.

Always remember - Laughter Kills The Heart - muhammad said so.

Another of Etheopianjews's manuscripts shows muhammad loved animals

A muslim woman was walking with her baby. A camel herder said “That’s the ugliest baby that I’ve ever seen.”

The woman goes to allah's apostle, she says to muhammad “The camel herder just insulted me!”

muhammad replied “You may go and admonish him with my blessings. I’ll hold your monkey for you.”

Oh by the way did you know that alarm clocks are the flavour of the month for islamic gifts? The most popular brand selling like hot cakes is:
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Reply #657 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 4:40pm
 
Thanks FD, some really deep and inciteful responses there.  Tongue

freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 12:37pm:
I think there was more to your insistence that the Muslim community must take responsibility and tackle the issue head on. Normally you are eager to make excuses and seek ambiguity, or even demand proof.


You liked my "tone" for obvious reasons - and those reasons have nothing to do with the actual facts of the case. If I had made a spiel about how muslims should take responsibility for persecuting purple monkeys on the moon, you would no doubt be "contributing" to that discussion the same way - ie gleefully interrogating me to extract more "confessions" that implicate islam even further. You certainly wouldn't be concerned about any of the facts on which I made my spiel, and whether or not I may have been misinformed.

Which of course is completely different to FD 2007. He would have been decrying the "muslim bashing over one or two scare stories".

freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 12:37pm:
Are you demanding proof of your original claim?


Your line by line quip responses are ever so clever, but you are completely missing the point. If you want to criticise me for changing my mind after learning the facts, then you need to come up with a reason why my reinterpretation of the facts is wrong. Rather than this inane line that merely changing your mind per se is reason enough for ridicule.

And of course we all know that if I changed from saying this had nothing to do with muslims to then conceding this was a muslim responsibility, FD would have been all over me for being guilty of going back on my word right? Tongue.

freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 12:37pm:
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So clearly you *DO* believe that child marriage is a "problem" in the Australian muslim community, but on what basis? Your entire case to date is based on facts that have been demonstrated to be irrelevant or just plain false.


Not true, and I have listed them many times.


You have come up with facts which are just plain wrong FD - like the second imam and this imaginary islamic health service spreading stories about a widespread problem in the muslim community. Ring any bells? Throughout this thread you have been desperately seeking evidence that this whole thing in Australia is more than a single isolated incident - but you have continually come up short. You even resorted to the old "this guy got caught because he was stupid - therefore there must be heaps of other unknown cases" argument.
After that you concentrated on what muslims say (and don't say) about the permissibility of child marriage, which is completely irrelevant to whether or not the actual practice is a problem in the Australian muslim community. In fact you even shot yourself in the foot by stating that a "mainstream muslim" would obey Australian law, and therefore not partake in the practice.
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Reply #658 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 5:32pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 1:47pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 12:37pm:
Karnal keeps talking about a second case.


This is the second child marriage I'm talking about, FD, kindly referenced by the old boy.

Soren wrote on Feb 27th, 2014 at 10:01pm:
Shame of our child brides: Court hears how woman was raped and beaten as it’s revealed hundreds are forced into arranged and unregistered marriages across NSW


A 14-YEAR-OLD girl was forced into an Islamic marriage with a western Sydney drug gang member who raped and beat her and later physically abused their daughter.

Details of the now 25-year old victim’s ordeal surfaced in the Federal Circuit Court where the victim was fighting to have the man banned from seeing their daughter.

So appalling was the woman's life of abuse, which included claims that her father told her she could only leave her marriage “in a coffin”, that Judge Joseph Harman made an unprecedented public appeal in his judgment for authorities to act.

The story came to light after the Daily Telegraph reported the arrest of a man who had been living with a 12-year-old as his wife in Sydney.

The imam who married the pair, Riaz Tasawar, was yesterday arrested by police.
...
Eman Sharobeem from the Immigrant Women’s Health Service said hundreds of children as young as 11 were being sent overseas to be married after being “shopped” on Facebook. “It’s far more prevalent and well-known than people think,” she said.

Dr Sharobeem said not enough was being done to build awareness about underage marriage. “Regulation needs to be put in place within different religions,” she said. “If we are talking about Australian law, every marriage should be under Australian law,”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/shame-of-our-child-brides-court-hears-...

Your grinning attempts to cover up and slime the obvious is thoroughly disgusting and contemptible, PB. Just f vck disgusting.


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The Tele reports this as an "Islamic" marriage, but no details have been provided of any actual marriage.

The girl was 14 at the time, and alledges that her "husband" was 21.

I've checked the few online news stories for more info, but no details of charges, pending convictions or any substantiated information has been provided. The information appears to be based on the now 25 year old's victim statement, submited to the Federal Circuit Court.

The Federal Circuit Court is not a criminal court. It's designed to be an alternative to litigation in the civil courts and the Family Court of Australia.

The headlines have shrieked: EXCLUSIVE: THE husband of a 14-year-old who was repeatedly raped after a forced marriage looks set to escape punishment.

I'm not sure of the legals here, but as far as I can see, these are allegations. I have no idea why the Herald Sun who published this "exclusive" have not written "alledgedly" repeatedly raped. It's possible that there are different reporting standards for civil cases as opposed to criminal cases.

Again, this "marriage" is an allegation by a victim. From what I can tell, there are no criminal charges or convictions.

As the article itself says, the evil Muslim "husband" looks set to escape punishment. This means that there is either not enough evidence, or he is not guilty of underage marriage and rape. Both are serious crimes and would definitely be reported to police by a civil court or the victim herself if there was enough evidence to suggest guilt.........




Surely if this went to court as a criminal case....... it would be just an argument between two parties, based upon verbal evidence/accounts presented by each party ?

"She said.....",

"Then he said....."


i.e.
In court, the husband would/could simply deny the allegations [relating to the [alleged] rapes].

No ?



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Reply #659 - Mar 7th, 2014 at 6:19pm
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 5:32pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 1:47pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2014 at 12:37pm:
Karnal keeps talking about a second case.


This is the second child marriage I'm talking about, FD, kindly referenced by the old boy.

Soren wrote on Feb 27th, 2014 at 10:01pm:
Shame of our child brides: Court hears how woman was raped and beaten as it’s revealed hundreds are forced into arranged and unregistered marriages across NSW


A 14-YEAR-OLD girl was forced into an Islamic marriage with a western Sydney drug gang member who raped and beat her and later physically abused their daughter.

Details of the now 25-year old victim’s ordeal surfaced in the Federal Circuit Court where the victim was fighting to have the man banned from seeing their daughter.

So appalling was the woman's life of abuse, which included claims that her father told her she could only leave her marriage “in a coffin”, that Judge Joseph Harman made an unprecedented public appeal in his judgment for authorities to act.

The story came to light after the Daily Telegraph reported the arrest of a man who had been living with a 12-year-old as his wife in Sydney.

The imam who married the pair, Riaz Tasawar, was yesterday arrested by police.
...
Eman Sharobeem from the Immigrant Women’s Health Service said hundreds of children as young as 11 were being sent overseas to be married after being “shopped” on Facebook. “It’s far more prevalent and well-known than people think,” she said.

Dr Sharobeem said not enough was being done to build awareness about underage marriage. “Regulation needs to be put in place within different religions,” she said. “If we are talking about Australian law, every marriage should be under Australian law,”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/shame-of-our-child-brides-court-hears-...

Your grinning attempts to cover up and slime the obvious is thoroughly disgusting and contemptible, PB. Just f vck disgusting.


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The Tele reports this as an "Islamic" marriage, but no details have been provided of any actual marriage.

The girl was 14 at the time, and alledges that her "husband" was 21.

I've checked the few online news stories for more info, but no details of charges, pending convictions or any substantiated information has been provided. The information appears to be based on the now 25 year old's victim statement, submited to the Federal Circuit Court.

The Federal Circuit Court is not a criminal court. It's designed to be an alternative to litigation in the civil courts and the Family Court of Australia.

The headlines have shrieked: EXCLUSIVE: THE husband of a 14-year-old who was repeatedly raped after a forced marriage looks set to escape punishment.

I'm not sure of the legals here, but as far as I can see, these are allegations. I have no idea why the Herald Sun who published this "exclusive" have not written "alledgedly" repeatedly raped. It's possible that there are different reporting standards for civil cases as opposed to criminal cases.

Again, this "marriage" is an allegation by a victim. From what I can tell, there are no criminal charges or convictions.

As the article itself says, the evil Muslim "husband" looks set to escape punishment. This means that there is either not enough evidence, or he is not guilty of underage marriage and rape. Both are serious crimes and would definitely be reported to police by a civil court or the victim herself if there was enough evidence to suggest guilt.........



Surely if this went to court as a criminal case....... it would be just an argument between two parties, based upon verbal evidence/accounts presented by each party ?

"She said.....",

"Then he said....."


i.e.
In court, the husband would/could simply deny the allegations [relating to the [alleged] rapes].

No ?



No, that’s a civil court, and that’s exactly what the Federal Circuit Court does. It deals with civil and family matters, along with a few other functions, such as Maritime law.

The woman in this case is fighting to have her ex "husband" from having access to their child. If she had any proof, her ex would be in jail now. This is a case that has not even made it to the Family Court.

Think about it. How would a husband who repeatedly raped and abused his wife in a "forced" underage marriage escape punishment after being been found guilty in an Australian court?

Sorry to disappoint, effendes. After 44 pages, the epidemic is back down to one underage marriage.

I’m sure we’re all relieved, eh?
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