freediver wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 12:25pm:


What do you disagree with? There's no evidence that they were child marriages. In one, there's no evidence they were married at all. In the other, there's evidence that they were legally married.

Perhaps you could explain your rejection based on the legal definition of marriage.

Then we could spend 20 pages debating your assumptions on the rights and wrongs of the Marriage Act.

Karnal wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 9:39am:


Nuffin' to see 'ere, then.

Unfortunately for your silly case, there are many, many more than one.

Epidemic of child brides in NSW suburbs
ALICIA WOOD, POLITICAL REPORTER THE DAILY TELEGRAPH FEBRUARY 12, 2014 7:30AM


HUNDREDS of underage teenagers are living in unregistered defacto marriages in NSW — and pressure is mounting for state and federal authorities to investigate illegal unions.

The statistics came as NSW Women’s Minister Pru Goward urged anyone with information on girls under the age of consent being married off to older men to report such incidents. In NSW, three children aged 14, 30 children aged 15, 152 aged 16 and 483 aged 17 identified themselves as living in a defacto marriage in the 2011 census.

Girl, 14, drugged, raped and forced into marriage

Adolescent psychologist Dr Michael Carr-Gregg warned last night that defacto relationships involving teenage girls were detrimental to their psychological health.

“There’s an increased likelihood of these young people developing anxiety and mood disorders or depression,” he said. “I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these kids become potentially suicidal.”

In metropolitan Sydney, the local government areas with the highest number of unregistered teenage defacto marriages are Blacktown and Penrith, with 23 each, Campbelltown with 17, and Liverpool with 12.

In Blacktown, there were seven 16-year-olds and 16 children aged 17 who identified themselves as living in a defacto marriage.

In Penrith, six 15-year-olds, five 16-year-olds and 12 17-year-olds said they were in a defacto marriage.

In regional areas, the problem is more stark. In Wyong, Wollongong and Dubbo, six 15-year-olds in each local government area said they were in defacto marriages, and all three 14-year-olds who said they were defacto marriages live in Young.

The figures come to light amid intense public outrage at the arrest of a 26-year-old man over child sex allegations after his alleged marriage to a 12-year-old girl.

Eman Sharobeem from the Immigrant Women’s Health Service said hundreds of children as young as 11 were being sent overseas to be married after being “shopped” on Facebook. “It’s far more prevalent and well-known than people think,” she said.

Dr Sharobeem said not enough was being done to build awareness about underage marriage. “Regulation needs to be put in place within different religions,” she said. “If we are talking about Australian law, every marriage should be under Australian law,”

“There needs to be proper, culturally appropriate, education and awareness-raising. And we should make it as compulsory as we can.”

Ms Goward has written to federal counterpart Michaelia Cash to push for national awareness campaigns on underage and forced marriage.

“Every young girl in NSW should have the opportunity to make her own choices about her future, and underage marriage is completely unacceptable,” Ms Goward said.

“It doesn’t matter if the arrangement is religious or cultural, if the law in this state says it is illegal, parents and the community need to accept that and abide by it.

“We can only investigate a case if it is reported, so I encourage anyone aware of girls under the age of consent being married off to older men to report it to authorities so it can be investigated.”

Opposition community services spokeswoman Linda Burney said the government should investigate how widespread underage marriage is.“We seemingly don’t have a picture of how widespread this type of behaviour is,” she said. Ms Burney said

The legal marrying age in Australia is 18 unless a court approves a union where one party is aged between 16 and 18.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/epidemic-of-child-brides-in-nsw-suburbs/st...

Shopped on Facebook and sent overseas - not Australian then. Nor Europeans.

Lemme fink, lemme fink, where could they send them?
Pakistan, India, Africa, Middle East - to countries from which most of the efniks who do not interact with Australia come from.
You know, the ones who want to keep their kulture.

Soren wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 4:36pm:


Oh do try to keep up.  If you had been following you would have realised that 94% of the "marraiges" in this census data were actually non-Muslim.  The majority identified as Christian, with around 30% being non religious.

But by all means, keep posting Telegraph reports, they don't take much time refuting.

Soren wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 4:36pm:


Holy crap, Soren is now standing up for the safety of immigrants!

of the Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Salem, on the marriage of a 26 year old moslem man and a 12 year old girl, in Sydney....

Father of 12-year-old 'bride' refused bail - Sydney Morning Herald
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/father-of-12yearold-bride-refused-bail-20140212-32ia8....
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Stratos wrote on Mar 8^th, 2014 at 9:25pm:







of the Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Salem, commenting on the marriage of a man, Mohammed [above 50 years old], and one of his wives, Aisha, a 6 year old girl.....
[...the 'man', was Mohammed, the prophet of ISLAM]

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http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php?keyword=aisha+nine+years+old&transla...
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Yadda wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 5:48pm:


Asked him on Facebook yet?  Of course not.  Gutless.

Soren wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 5:10pm:


Except for the ones that come out and and condemn it as ethically and legally wrong of course.  Like Australia's Grand mufti.

Also a really dumb point, as Christianity has no verses about marriageable age, good bad or otherwise, and non-religious types would by default have none to justify or condemn any behaviour.

Soren wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 5:10pm:


And which is approximately 94% less than the Telegraph would like you to think.  It is an over-representation as I have said, but there are far greater numbers in Australia amongst Christian and non-religious people.  FAR greater.  That you only care about the Muslims clearly shows you have no interest in the well being of the people involved in this, but just want to score points against Muslims.

Stratos wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 6:30pm:



Stratos,

It is just that the stated postion of the Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Salem, on underage marriage of young girls, seems to be contradictory ?

Ibrahim Salem apparently states that such unions are;

"...to be rejected and condemned from a legal and ethical prospective"

....yet Ibrahim Salem knows full well that Mohammed engaged in the very same behaviour/conduct.



AN OBVIOUS QUESTION;
Does Ibrahim Salem also believe, that Mohammed's behaviour is also

"...to be rejected and condemned from a legal and ethical prospective"

  ???


It is a reasonable question Stratos, given the facts, and given the recorded behaviour of Mohammed vis-a-vis marrying an underage girl.