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Reply #780 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 7:20pm
 
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 4:36pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 9:39am:
On the media-hoaxed "epidemic", or for Y the "explosion", there is one marriage. The system intervened, and the father, the husband, and the imam were all brought to justice. 


Nuffin' to see 'ere, then.

Unfortunately for your silly case, there are many, many more than one.

Epidemic of child brides in NSW suburbs
ALICIA WOOD, POLITICAL REPORTER THE DAILY TELEGRAPH FEBRUARY 12, 2014 7:30AM


HUNDREDS of underage teenagers are living in unregistered defacto marriages in NSW — and pressure is mounting for state and federal authorities to investigate illegal unions.

The statistics came as NSW Women’s Minister Pru Goward urged anyone with information on girls under the age of consent being married off to older men to report such incidents. In NSW, three children aged 14, 30 children aged 15, 152 aged 16 and 483 aged 17 identified themselves as living in a defacto marriage in the 2011 census.

Girl, 14, drugged, raped and forced into marriage

Adolescent psychologist Dr Michael Carr-Gregg warned last night that defacto relationships involving teenage girls were detrimental to their psychological health.

“There’s an increased likelihood of these young people developing anxiety and mood disorders or depression,” he said. “I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these kids become potentially suicidal.”

In metropolitan Sydney, the local government areas with the highest number of unregistered teenage defacto marriages are Blacktown and Penrith, with 23 each, Campbelltown with 17, and Liverpool with 12.

In Blacktown, there were seven 16-year-olds and 16 children aged 17 who identified themselves as living in a defacto marriage.

In Penrith, six 15-year-olds, five 16-year-olds and 12 17-year-olds said they were in a defacto marriage.

In regional areas, the problem is more stark. In Wyong, Wollongong and Dubbo, six 15-year-olds in each local government area said they were in defacto marriages, and all three 14-year-olds who said they were defacto marriages live in Young.

The figures come to light amid intense public outrage at the arrest of a 26-year-old man over child sex allegations after his alleged marriage to a 12-year-old girl.

Eman Sharobeem from the Immigrant Women’s Health Service said hundreds of children as young as 11 were being sent overseas to be married after being “shopped” on Facebook. “It’s far more prevalent and well-known than people think,” she said.

Dr Sharobeem said not enough was being done to build awareness about underage marriage. “Regulation needs to be put in place within different religions,” she said. “If we are talking about Australian law, every marriage should be under Australian law,”

“There needs to be proper, culturally appropriate, education and awareness-raising. And we should make it as compulsory as we can.”

Ms Goward has written to federal counterpart Michaelia Cash to push for national awareness campaigns on underage and forced marriage.

“Every young girl in NSW should have the opportunity to make her own choices about her future, and underage marriage is completely unacceptable,” Ms Goward said.

“It doesn’t matter if the arrangement is religious or cultural, if the law in this state says it is illegal, parents and the community need to accept that and abide by it.

“We can only investigate a case if it is reported, so I encourage anyone aware of girls under the age of consent being married off to older men to report it to authorities so it can be investigated.”

Opposition community services spokeswoman Linda Burney said the government should investigate how widespread underage marriage is.“We seemingly don’t have a picture of how widespread this type of behaviour is,” she said. Ms Burney said

The legal marrying age in Australia is 18 unless a court approves a union where one party is aged between 16 and 18.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/epidemic-of-child-brides-in-nsw-suburbs/st...

Shopped on Facebook and sent overseas - not Australian then. Nor Europeans.

Lemme fink, lemme fink, where could they send them?
Pakistan, India, Africa, Middle East - to countries from which most of the efniks who do not interact with Australia come from.
You know, the ones who want to keep their kulture.





Nuffin to see here, old chap. Your quoted cases aren’t Muslims.

University of Balogney again, old boy - we can tell!
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Reply #781 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 7:31pm
 
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Your quoted cases aren’t Muslims.


You sure about that Karnal?
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Reply #782 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 7:32pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:05pm:
Stratos wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:58pm:
Interestingly enough, every listed demographic in the data was over-represented. 


And interestingly, it's only an epidemic for the Muselmen ones.


I take that back. The old boy’s onto the non-Muslim ones.

Somehow, I think he’ll claim the Muselman’s in there somewhere.

Maybe the Muselman’s a sort of evil supernatural entity. He comes to this country, steals our girls’ virginity, poisons our wells, makes our wives barren, turns our milk sour...

I must say, it’s marvellous to see science and reason combat the scouge of Islam in our community.
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Reply #783 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 7:34pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 7:31pm:
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Your quoted cases aren’t Muslims.


You sure about that Karnal?


Positive. If they were, the Daily Tele would have some fun with them. As would you, no?

You’re on the scent though. You’re just dying to find a Muslim child sex slave out there somewhere in suburbia.

Y’s happy to scout around in the UK. The old boy’s on the case in Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

Don’t worry, FD, I’m sure one will turn up before long.
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Reply #784 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 7:54pm
 
Stratos wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 6:28pm:
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 5:10pm:
And they are the ONLY ones with rock-solid Islamic example and precedence to justify themselves, example that is above any man-made law, as we now all know.


Except for the ones that come out and and condemn it as ethically and legally wrong of course.  Like Australia's Grand mufti.

Also a really dumb point, as Christianity has no verses about marriageable age, good bad or otherwise, and non-religious types would by default have none to justify or condemn any behaviour.

Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 5:10pm:
Muslims are 2.2 % of the population but account for 6% of the underage marriages.


And which is approximately 94% less than the Telegraph would like you to think.  It is an over-representation as I have said, but there are far greater numbers in Australia amongst Christian and non-religious people.  FAR greater.  That you only care about the Muslims clearly shows you have no interest in the well being of the people involved in this, but just want to score points against Muslims.



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Reply #785 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:13pm
 
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 5:10pm:
Stratos wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 4:59pm:
94% of the "marraiges" in this census data were actually non-Muslim. 

Muslims are 2.2 % of the population but account for 6% of the underage marriages.



Marriages? We’re talking about people who self identify on their census forms as defactos.

But let’s unpack the figures. 6% of 1000 underage relationships - Australia-wide - is 60.

2.2% is 22.

So we have a grand overrepresented total of 38 underage defacto "marriages". In Australia.

Sinister, no?

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Reply #786 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:23pm
 
Stratos wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 6:28pm:
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 5:10pm:
And they are the ONLY ones with rock-solid Islamic example and precedence to justify themselves, example that is above any man-made law, as we now all know.


Except for the ones that come out and and condemn it as ethically and legally wrong of course.  Like Australia's Grand mufti.

Also a really dumb point, as Christianity has no verses about marriageable age, good bad or otherwise, and non-religious types would by default have none to justify or condemn any behaviour.




You have just made my point without realising it.


Islam has chapter and verse about why diddling 6-9 year olds is halal - Mo's done it.


Christianity doesn't  - so the law of the land will prevail as there is no religious ruling otherwise.

I think you are just not up to anything that requires actual thinking.


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Reply #787 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:26pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:13pm:
  overrepresented
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Sinister, no?




Yes.

Over-representation is a sign only f vckwits like you would ignore - or worse, play down.



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Reply #788 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:27pm
 
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:26pm:
Yes.

Over-representation is a sign only f vckwits like you would ignore - or worse, play down.


i await the thread starting soon on non-religious types being over-represented in the 2011 statistics for de-facto under-age relationships.

Start a Christian one too while you are at it.  Muslim has been taken care of, so no need to start one on that.
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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #789 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:28pm
 
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:23pm:
Stratos wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 6:28pm:
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 5:10pm:
And they are the ONLY ones with rock-solid Islamic example and precedence to justify themselves, example that is above any man-made law, as we now all know.


Except for the ones that come out and and condemn it as ethically and legally wrong of course.  Like Australia's Grand mufti.

Also a really dumb point, as Christianity has no verses about marriageable age, good bad or otherwise, and non-religious types would by default have none to justify or condemn any behaviour.




You have just made my point without realising it.


Islam has chapter and verse about why diddling 6-9 year olds is halal - Mo's done it.


Christianity doesn't  - so the law of the land will prevail as there is no religious ruling otherwise.

I think you are just not up to anything that requires actual thinking.




No, Christianity just follows a lot of Jewish old boy prophets who had a jolly time with child brides too.

Shurely shome mishtake, no?

A pillar of salt, old chap. Don’t look!
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Reply #790 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:31pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:28pm:
No, Christianity just follows a lot of Jewish old boy prophets who had a jolly time with child brides too.


According to Christian tradition, Mary gave birth to Jesus at age 14.  By this time she was already betrothed.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #791 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:34pm
 
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:26pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:13pm:
  overrepresented
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Sinister, no?




Yes.

Over-representation is a sign only f vckwits like you would ignore - or worse, play down.





So you feel awfully sorry for the 6% of Muslims girls, eh?

But you don’t feel for the other 94%?

Oh, old boy, you’re so cruel.
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Reply #792 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:37pm
 
Stratos wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:31pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:28pm:
No, Christianity just follows a lot of Jewish old boy prophets who had a jolly time with child brides too.


According to Christian tradition, Mary gave birth to Jesus at age 14.  By this time she was already betrothed.



What?
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Reply #793 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:43pm
 
Stratos wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:31pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:28pm:
No, Christianity just follows a lot of Jewish old boy prophets who had a jolly time with child brides too.


According to Christian tradition, Mary gave birth to Jesus at age 14.  By this time she was already betrothed.




You are both
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ON PURPOSE (ie you both know you are talking sh!te yet press on).
Show me a Muslim, imam or not, who actually condemned Mohammed's example of f vcking a 9 year old.


If you can show such a one, we can talk. Until then, you are just talking diversionary bollocks.  Mohammed f vcked a 9-12 year old as a wife. Mohammed is the best of all men for Muslims and he could do no wrong.


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Reply #794 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:49pm
 
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:43pm:
Stratos wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:31pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:28pm:
No, Christianity just follows a lot of Jewish old boy prophets who had a jolly time with child brides too.


According to Christian tradition, Mary gave birth to Jesus at age 14.  By this time she was already betrothed.




You are both idiots ON PURPOSE (ie you both know you are talking sh!te yet press on).
Show me a Muslim, imam or not, who actually condemned Mohammed's example of f vcking a 9 year old.


If you can show such a one, we can talk. Until then, you are just talking diversionary bollocks.  Mohammed f vcked a 9-12 year old as a wife. Mohammed is the best of all men for Muslims and he could do no wrong.


Talk to that, idiots.



How dare you. You show me a Catholic who has anything bad to say about the Mother of Gud. Just one.

And no awful atheist ones, thank you very much.

You blasphemer types make me sick to my stomach.
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