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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: underage marriage in Sydney Reply #795 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 8:54pm personal abuse removed What aspects of Mary's behaviour are held up as instances that trump democratic laws?
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Reply #796 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 9:08pm

Soren wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 8:54pm:

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What aspects of Mary's behaviour are held up as instances that trump democratic laws?

Oh, I don’t know. The Rock of Ages? The Doctrine of Infallibility? The divine right of kings?

Pretty much the whole game, dear boy.

Whoever would have thought? By FD’s standards, the Mother of Gud was married to a paedophile.

Still, nuffin to do wiv nuffin, old boy.

Back to the topic, how many of those poor dearies in your Tele article were Muselmen?

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Reply #797 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 9:28pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 7:34pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

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Your quoted cases aren’t Muslims.

You sure about that Karnal?

Positive. If they were, the Daily Tele would have some fun with them. As would you, no?

You’re on the scent though. You’re just dying to find a Muslim child sex slave out there somewhere in suburbia.

Y’s happy to scout around in the UK. The old boy’s on the case in Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

Don’t worry, FD, I’m sure one will turn up before long.

Do you have any evidence Karnal?

Wasn't one of your own examples effectively a sex slave?

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So we have a grand overrepresented total of 38 underage defacto "marriages". In Australia.

So it is not significant because it is only 38?

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Oh, I don’t know. The Rock of Ages? The Doctrine of Infallibility? The divine right of kings?

How is the divine right of Kings an aspect of Mary's behaviour?

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Reply #798 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 9:41pm

freediver wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 9:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 7:34pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

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Your quoted cases aren’t Muslims.

You sure about that Karnal?

Positive. If they were, the Daily Tele would have some fun with them. As would you, no?

You’re on the scent though. You’re just dying to find a Muslim child sex slave out there somewhere in suburbia.

Y’s happy to scout around in the UK. The old boy’s on the case in Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

Don’t worry, FD, I’m sure one will turn up before long.

Do you have any evidence Karnal?

Yes, FD, I have the best evidence of all. I have an absence of evidence.

Not bad, eh?

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Reply #799 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 9:43pm

freediver wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 9:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 7:34pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

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Your quoted cases aren’t Muslims.

You sure about that Karnal?

Positive. If they were, the Daily Tele would have some fun with them. As would you, no?

You’re on the scent though. You’re just dying to find a Muslim child sex slave out there somewhere in suburbia.

Y’s happy to scout around in the UK. The old boy’s on the case in Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

Don’t worry, FD, I’m sure one will turn up before long.

Do you have any evidence Karnal?

Wasn't one of your own examples effectively a sex slave?

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So we have a grand overrepresented total of 38 underage defacto "marriages". In Australia.

So it is not significant because it is only 38?

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Oh, I don’t know. The Rock of Ages? The Doctrine of Infallibility? The divine right of kings?

How is the divine right of Kings an aspect of Mary's behaviour?

Mary gave birth to Jesus, Freediver. I’m surprised you’d ask such an impertinent question.

That’s a mortal sin right there.

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Reply #800 - Mar 11^th, 2014 at 12:55am

Soren wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 8:23pm:

Stratos wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 6:28pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 5:10pm:

And they are the ONLY ones with rock-solid Islamic example and precedence to justify themselves, example that is above any man-made law, as we now all know.

Except for the ones that come out and and condemn it as ethically and legally wrong of course. Like Australia's Grand mufti.

Also a really dumb point, as Christianity has no verses about marriageable age, good bad or otherwise, and non-religious types would by default have none to justify or condemn any behaviour.

You have just made my point without realising it.

Islam has chapter and verse about why diddling 6-9 year olds is halal - Mo's done it.

Christianity doesn't - so the law of the land will prevail as there is no religious ruling otherwise.

Right you are, old boy. That must be why all those paedophile priests keep getting sent to places like Costa Rica.

The Catholic Church respects the laws of the land. of course, It just feels a bit of sun would do them some good.

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Reply #802 - Mar 11^th, 2014 at 12:33pm

Adamant wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 10:36am:

"Saudi Preacher Fayhan al-Ghamdi Released After Raping and Killing Daughter Because he 'Doubted her Virginity"

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/saudi-preacher-fayhan-al-ghamdi-released-after-raping-k...

She was only five, what would she know about sex? Seems you can get away with murder in islam.

Good evidence, Adamant. Another Muslim underage marriage in Sydney. These imams are marrying their five year old daughters now. Typical.

I'm sure FD approves this one.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: underage marriage in Sydney Reply #803 - Mar 11^th, 2014 at 7:47pm Sooooo - show me a Muslim, imam or not, who actually condemned Mohammed's example of having sex with a 9 ear old wife.
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Reply #805 - Mar 11^th, 2014 at 7:51pm

Soren wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

Sooooo - show me a Muslim, imam or not, who actually condemned Mohammed's example of having sex with a 9 ear old wife.

Sooo - show me another child bride in Sydney - no, Australia.

And show me the stats on old boy paedophile priests, based on the example of their carpenter prophet.

Then we can come together and break stool, no?

Agreed.

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Reply #806 - Mar 11^th, 2014 at 7:57pm

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 7:51pm:

Well done Karnal. Who'd have thought pedophilia was so funny?

I could not agree more, FD. I find the 6% of Muslim underage defacto relationships utterly, utterly appalling. I do feel for them so.

The other 94% are just getting up to the usual adolescent hijinx.

Teenagers today, eh? What can you do?

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Reply #807 - Mar 11^th, 2014 at 8:41pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 7:51pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

Sooooo - show me a Muslim, imam or not, who actually condemned Mohammed's example of having sex with a 9 ear old wife.

Sooo - show me another child bride in Sydney - no, Australia.

And show me the stats on old boy paedophile priests, based on the example of their carpenter prophet.

Then we can come together and break stool, no?

Agreed.

In secular and Christian jurisdictions it is a crime. There is no possible excuse based on Christian doctrine or secular reasoning. There is no Christian or secular defence for marrying 9-13 year old girls simply because she has menstruated.

Under sharia law, on the other hand, there is a very strong religious justification for it, based on the example Mohammed set. Under sharia you could not make a law that contradicts Mohammed's example - see Saudi Arabia, Yemen, places where the Talibs are in charge.

Therefore there is no Muslim who actually condemns Mohammed's example of having sex with a 9 year old wife, as long as she has bled. This is what Gandalf himself was tapdancing around.

They will not be able to say that Mohammed's example was wrong.

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Reply #808 - Mar 11^th, 2014 at 9:08pm

Soren wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 8:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 7:51pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

Sooooo - show me a Muslim, imam or not, who actually condemned Mohammed's example of having sex with a 9 ear old wife.

Sooo - show me another child bride in Sydney - no, Australia.

And show me the stats on old boy paedophile priests, based on the example of their carpenter prophet.

Then we can come together and break stool, no?

Agreed.

In secular and Christian jurisdictions it is a crime. There is no possible excuse based on Christian doctrine or secular reasoning. There is no Christian or secular defence for marrying 9-13 year old girls simply because she has menstruated.

Under sharia law, on the other hand, there is a very strong religious justification for it, based on the example Mohammed set. Under sharia you could not make a law that contradicts Mohammed's example - see Saudi Arabia, Yemen, places where the Talibs are in charge.

Therefore there is no Muslim who actually condemns Mohammed's example of having sex with a 9 year old wife, as long as she has bled. This is what Gandalf himself was tapdancing around.

They will not be able to say that Mohammed's example was wrong.

Sooo - that’s your example?

Jolly good, old dear. Your posts are starting to rival Y’s in length. That’s something.

47 of the 50 Musel countries you speak of have the same age of consent laws as the Christian ones - who have almost the same underage marriage statistics as the Musel ones.

If you want to ape Yadda, go back and add a few unrelated Bible quotes.

Give us a case, old boy, or get off the pot. There are patients waiting, you know.

FD’s just hopping to let one out, aren’t you, FD?

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Reply #809 - Mar 12^th, 2014 at 5:21am

Karnal wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 9:08pm:

47 of the 50 Musel countries you speak of have the same age of consent laws as the Christian ones - who have almost the same underage marriage statistics as the Musel ones.

Not very rigorously enforced, if at all. Very importantly, the reflex towards sharia is gaining ground everywhere rather than the colonial inheritance of European law (which sets age limits on grounds alien to Islamic tradition and specific religious examples set by Mohammed.
This is why the 'Arab Spring' brings out the drafting of all sorts of sharia-inspired laws to replace the despised European/Western ones they see as the cause of all their troubles.

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