Soren wrote on Mar 12^th, 2014 at 5:21am:


And yet, the statistics you posted show a lesser prevalence of child marriage in the three Islamic states than Christian countries like Nicuragua and Hindu India, who trumps them all.

All your evidence points to the exact opposite of your argument. You keep indulging in abstract arguments about Muhammed’s example and imams in Islamic states, but this merely reinforces that Australia is a secular state wih enforced age of consent laws.

You can’t provide more than one example of where Muslims have disobeyed these laws due to their religion. Your "over-representative" 6% census figure even shows that Muslims are going against their religion by not getting married.

The Muslim community in Australia has denounced the practice of child marriage in the strongest possible terms. They don’t support it, no one can provide evidence that they do, and there is even the example of an imam turning away the father in the case we’re discussing.

And who wouldn’t? It’s a criminal offence.

You can keep going over old ground, old boy, but your arguments are only proving their opposite. Even your examples of draft laws being rejected shows that "Arab Spring" countries themselves uphold their secular age of consent/marriage laws.

You provided good proof of three Muslim countries with no minimum age for marriage, and I applauded your evidence. You would hope that a debate like this would uncover the truth rather than two competing sets of lies. If you can show me evidence of a Muslim epidemic of child marriage in Sydney, I’ll accept it.

This debate is about just that, old boy - not 1400 year old customs, not Saudi Arabia, not legal propositions by religious groups in Arab countries. It’s about Muslims in Australia marrying child brides.

So far, we have one isolated case, which is now before the court. Again, do you have anything else, or shall we now conceed that there is no problem?

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I was under the impression that cases like the one in the OP would get recorded as defacto, even though they had a religious ceremony.

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Except of course, for the ones who haven't.

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There are examples of Muslims who support it right here in this thread. Of course, you did your best to cover your eyes every time it happened.

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2014 at 12:17pm:


Why would anyone report their own relationship as "defacto" when they had a wedding?

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Which ones? I can hardly cover my eyes if you show me, FD. Unless - you're deliberately trying to conceal them.

That's spineless apologetics right there, FD.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 12^th, 2014 at 11:49am:


Gee, I never thought about it quite like that, G.

I thought this debate was about saving the children. Well, 6% of them, anyway.

What it's really about is Muslims refusing to become decent Christian or secular paedophiles.

Thanks for setting me straight.

Karnal wrote on Mar 12^th, 2014 at 3:15pm:

Having a child too early can cause serious medical issues. I remember watching a doco once on these girls in Africa who leak urine because their urinary systems were damaged due to early pregnancies. And they were outcast because of it.

Karnal wrote on Mar 12^th, 2014 at 4:04pm:
So can't we talk about sections of Islam taking child brides because it offends your sensibilities Karnal. Islam should be picked on because it well and truly is a mess.

Sparky wrote on Mar 12^th, 2014 at 4:47pm:


Islam should be picked on by telling porkie pies about Australian Muslims "taking" child brides?

You’re right, Sparky - I really shouldn’t be so sensitive. How self indulgent of me. Islam is well and truly a mess, so let’s all pretend.

I’m sure the old boy will concur. He’s a Freudian.

"Where there was ego, there shall id be."

It is a jolly world, no?

Soren wrote on Mar 12^th, 2014 at 8:31pm:


Why do you bother posting such platitudes in a thread on Muslim child marriage in Sydney? This is the same never-ever post you put in every thread. You might as well do a Yadda and quote yourself.

This is the last time I ask: do you have any actual evidence of more than one child marriage in Australia?

If you don’t, or if you utter more old boy motherhood statements or stage another temper tantrum, we’ll close the case.

Agreed?