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The Arab States encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Said, quoted in Sir Am Nakbah ("The Secret Behind the Disaster") by Nimr el Hawari, Nazareth, 1952
The Secretary General of the Arab League, Azzam Pasha, assured the Arab peoples that the occupation of Palestine and of Tel Aviv would be as simple as a military promenade. . . . He pointed out that they were already on the frontiers and that all the millions the Jews had spent on land and economic development would be easy booty, for it would be a simple matter to throw Jews into the Mediterranean. Brotherly advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes,and property and to stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down.

Arab Higher Committee, in a memorandum to the Arab League, Cairo, 1952, quoted in The Refugee in the World, by Joseph B. Schechtman, 1963
The Arab governments told us: Get out so that we can get in. So we got out, but they did not get in."

Khaled al Azm, Syria's Prime Minister after the 1948 war
As early as the first months of 1948 the Arab League issued orders exhorting the people to seek a temporary refuge in neighboring countries, later to return to their abodes in the wake of the victorious Arab armies and obtain their share of abandoned Jewish property." - bulletin of The Research Group for European Migration Problems, 1957

History of it all

The refugee problem was created in 1947-48,. But the major reason for the displacement of people was the war itself, which the Arabs imposed on Israel in an attempt to abort its birth.

Israel, at a terrible economic cost, absorbed the 800,000 Jewish refugees But the

Arab nations refused to accept these Arab refugees When Israel inherited Judea and Samaria (the "West Bank") and Gaza in the 1967 War, Israel also inherited the Palestinian refugee camps that were administered by a United Nations agency. Israel wanted to negotiate both the refugee problem and a peace settlement, but the Arabs refused.

For 19 years, until 1967, Jordan brutally occupied the renamed "West Bank" with its 20 UNWRA refugee camps.... And when western Palestinians rioted in December '55, April '57, April '63, Nov. '66 and April '67, King Hussein sent in tanks which shelled city streets and machine gunned people at random, killing hundreds of men, women and children.

The Gaza Strip, as it was known for the 19 years of harsh Egyptian occupation, had 8 UNWRA refugee camps in which the Palestinians were forced to live in overcrowded squalor. Egypt refused to absorb any refugees; kept them stateless, denied passports, and forbade them to travel or work in Egypt. On the other hand, Palestinians were permitted to work in Israel after 1967.

For 19 years of brutal occupation of their fellow Arabs, Jordan and Egypt kept these areas in a deliberate state of economic stagnation and severe unemployment.

Average unemployment in the early Sixties ran between 35-45%, and refugee unemployment hit a high of 83%. Yet during this entire period, the world was silent. Only after Israel's seizure of these territories in a defensive war in 1967, did anyone discover the "legitimate rights and national aspirations" of the Palestinian Arabs.

The surrounding Arabs states called for the Arab population to leave Israel and fight in the 1948 war ("a war of extermination and a momentous massacre"). Those that left were told that they could come back and take all the Jews possessions.

Those that stayed were told they would be killed with the Jews.

The Real Refugees
Most of the world is ignoring the real catastrophe of the past recent era: the brutal expulsion of some 867,000 Jews from Arab countries, and the seizure, by the Arab governments, of over $13-billion worth of Jewish property and assets.

Algeria
During the war for Algerian independence from France in the 1950s and early 1960s, Algerian nationalists carried out violent attacks on Algerian Jews. After the French left, the Algerian authorities issued a variety of anti- Jewish decrees, including the imposition of heavy taxes on the Jewish community. Nearly all of Algeria's 160,000 Jews fled the country. All but one of Algeria's synagogues were seized and turned into mosques.

Egypt
The ancient Jewish community of Egypt numbered over 90,000 by the 1940s. Riots by Egyptian nationalists in 1945 claimed many Jewish lives, and synagogues and Jewish buildings were burned down. A new wave of discrimination and violence was unleashed in 1948. Over 250 Jews were killed or injured, Jewish shops were looted, and Jewish assets were frozen. Some 35,000 Jews left Egypt by 1950. Gamal Abdel Nasser, who seized power in 1954, arrested thousands of Jews and confiscated their property. Emigration reduced Egyptian Jewry to just 8,000 by 1957.

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Reply #16 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 6:49pm

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Iraq
The Jews of Iraq, with roots dating back to ancient Babylonia, numbered about 190,000 in 1947. When Israel was established, Jewish emigration was forbidden, and hundreds of Jews were jailed. Those convicted of "Zionism" --a criminal offense-- were sentenced to internal exile or fines of up to $40,000 each. Tens of thousands of Jews slipped out of the country. Then, in 1950, the government
legalized emigration and pressured the Jews to leave; by 1952, only 6,000 remained. Jewish emigrants were permitted to take with them only $140 per adult; all of their remaining assets and property were confiscated by the Iraqi government.

Libya
The 2,000 year-old Jewish community of Libya, which numbered almost 60,000 by

the 1940s, was the target of mass anti-Jewish violence in November 1945. In Tripoli alone, 120 Jews were massacred, over 500 wounded, 2,000 were made homeless, and synagogues were torched. There were more pogroms in January 1946, with 75 Jews massacred in Zanzur, and more than 100 murdered in other towns. By the early 1950s, more than 40,000 Libyan Jews had emigrated.

Morocco
In 1948, there were about 350,000 Jews living in Morocco, a community with ancient roots going back to the time of the destruction of the First Temple (586 BCE). In June 1948, pogromists massacred 39 Jews in the town of Djerada and 4 more in Oujda. Over 50,000 Jews fled Morocco in terror. During the 1950s, there was violence against Jews in Oujda, Rabat, and Casablanca. Most of Moroccan Jewry emigrated during the years to follow.

Syria
There were 17,000 Jews in Syria in 1948, a community dating back to biblical times. Anti-Jewish pogroms erupted in the Syrian town of Aleppo in 1947. All of the local synagogues were destroyed, and 7,000 of the town's 10,000 Jews fled in terror. The government then enacted legislation to freeze Jewish bank accounts and confiscate Jewish property. By the 1950s, just 5,000 Jews remained in Syria, subjected to harsh decrees; they were banned from emigrating, selling their property, or working in government offices, and were compelled to carry special
cards identifying them as Jews.

What is wrong with muslims,they are the enemy of all mankind, slaughtering non-muslims, wives and daughters, muslims they disagree with, child sex, inbreeding,backward 7th century mentality etc.etc.

Will they ever wake up?

I don't believe so islam, allah, muhammad, qur'an, made them exactly what they are today, they will never change, because islam would simply implode if they went outside / questioned the guidelines, responsible for who they are today.

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Re: MP calls for Israeli sanctions over Gaza injustice
Reply #17 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 8:03pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 1:58pm:

Moslem = = "...is an Arabic word meaning.....[an unbeliever] a person....who hides, denies, or covers the truth."

you sure you got that right? I have never heard that before. Even from you

Stratos,

I know that you totally reject the concept

of moslems being 'holy' liars and deceivers for Allah.

DECEIT EXAMPLE #1;

GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE
A UK moslem *community leader*, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

"We condemn the killing of all innocent civilians."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article552594.ece

#1,
THE KICKER...
"...Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: "Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar." "

Moslem = = "...is an Arabic word meaning.....[an unbeliever] a person....who hides, denies, or covers the truth."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #18 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 8:06pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 1:58pm:

Moslem = = "...is an Arabic word meaning.....[an unbeliever] a person....who hides, denies, or covers the truth."

you sure you got that right? I have never heard that before. Even from you

Stratos,

I know that you totally reject the concept

of moslems being 'holy' liars and deceivers for Allah.

DECEIT EXAMPLE #2;

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Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims
London, Sept.8 [2007]
A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.
Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.
A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain.
Polite and softly spoken....
He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

Moslem = = "...is an Arabic word meaning.....[an unbeliever] a person....who hides, denies, or covers the truth."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: MP calls for Israeli sanctions over Gaza injustice
Reply #19 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 8:08pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 1:58pm:

Moslem = = "...is an Arabic word meaning.....[an unbeliever] a person....who hides, denies, or covers the truth."

you sure you got that right? I have never heard that before. Even from you

Stratos,

I know that you totally reject the concept

of moslems being 'holy' liars and deceivers for Allah.

DECEIT EXAMPLE #3;

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A body representing British 'mainstream' moslems, The Muslim Council of Britain, declares on its website, that ISLAM is a philosophy which condemns extremism and violence....

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Rejecting Terror
Thursday, 11 April 2013

Muslims everywhere consider all acts of terrorism that aims to murder and maim innocent human beings utterly reprehensible and abhorrent. There is no theological basis whatsoever for such acts in our faith. The very meaning of the word 'Islam' is peace. It rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony.

http://www.mcb.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2307:mcbnewst...
http://www.mcb.org.uk/article_detail.php?article=announcement-656

ISLAMIC law....

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

FROM THE SUNNA OF MOHAMMED

"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

Moslem = = "...is an Arabic word meaning.....[an unbeliever] a person....who hides, denies, or covers the truth."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #20 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 8:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:22pm:

try again...

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 12:24pm:

So Yadda, your solution is for these people to uproot themselves from their farms and homes and livelihood and camp themselves into another country that doesn't even want them?

gandalf,

Even infidels who run Zoo's know that you cannot keep sheep and wolves in the same enclosure.

Moslems are human predators, upon other human beings.

Moslems deny it [...to the 'sheep'].

But ISLAMIC foundation texts [the Koran and the Hadith] declare it.

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"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

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Here, for example, are two very illuminating passages from the canonical Life of Mohammed by Ibn Ishaq, as translated by A. Guillaume, and a third passage, from the earliest known Muslim historian.

Ishaq: 204 - "'Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man [Muhammad]?' 'Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.'"

Ishaq:231 - "Muslims are one ummah (community) to the exclusion of all men. Believers are friends of one another to the exclusion of all outsiders."

And here is Al-Tabari, a very early Muslim historian, in book 9, chapter or section 69, reporting words that Muslims believe to have been said by Mohammed himself - "Killing infidels is a small matter to us".

These texts are not fossils from a distant past. They are not dead letters. They are still 'live' and carry tremendous weight in the imagination and practice of many Muslims around the world.
...DDA

Google it.

ISLAM IS A MURDEROUS DEATH CULT

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"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb

ISLAM IS A MURDEROUS DEATH CULT

CAUSE?;

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

EFFECT?;

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February 5, 2008
70-year-old woman, convert from Islam to Christianity, burned to death in Bangladesh
....DHAKA, BANGLADESH (BosNewsLife)-- Christian villagers in a Muslim-majority area of Bangladesh on Tuesday, February 5, mourned the death of a 70-year-old woman who died from burns she suffered when a mob reportedly set her home ablaze as a punishment for converting from Islam to Christianity.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019813.php

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #22 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 8:38pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 8:08pm:

Moslem = = "...is an Arabic word meaning.....[an unbeliever] a person....who hides, denies, or covers the truth."

Source?

Moslem = = "...is an Arabic word meaning.....[an unbeliever] a person....who hides, denies, or covers the truth."
- Yadda

By definition [of behaviour], moslems are the Kuffar [the very 'Kuffar', that moslems claim to despise].

Moslems are liars and deceivers, haters of what is true - those that HATE God.

kuffar = = infidel = = a person who hides, denies, or covers the truth = = liars
= = MOSLEMS

"Dear muslim, YOU are the kuffar"

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1229682951/0#0
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You who embrace ISLAM, your own lies and deception, have become a witness against you, before God......

"kuffar" = = "...is an Arabic word meaning.....[an unbeliever] a person....who hides, denies, or covers the truth."

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: MP calls for Israeli sanctions over Gaza injustice Reply #23 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 8:49pm Yadda, as much as you have researched Islam, I'm not quite sure you attained a level of the arabic language. Where does it say that Muslim translates to a person who hides, denies, or covers the truth?
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Reply #24 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 9:58pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 8:49pm:

Yadda, as much as you have researched Islam, I'm not quite sure you attained a level of the arabic language.

Stratos,

'I can read and write, and i know which way is up.'

And i do not need to be fluent in Arabic,

to know that moslems are inveterate liars and deceivers.

Quote:

A body representing British 'mainstream' moslems, The Muslim Council of Britain, declares on its website, that ISLAM is a philosophy which condemns extremism and violence....

Quote:

Rejecting Terror
Thursday, 11 April 2013

Muslims everywhere consider all acts of terrorism that aims to murder and maim innocent human beings utterly reprehensible and abhorrent. There is no theological basis whatsoever for such acts in our faith. The very meaning of the word 'Islam' is peace. It rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony.

http://www.mcb.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2307:mcbnewst...
http://www.mcb.org.uk/article_detail.php?article=announcement-656

ISLAMIC law....

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

FROM THE SUNNA OF MOHAMMED

"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

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Stratos wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 8:49pm:

Where does it say that Muslim translates to a person who hides, denies, or covers the truth?

Duh, duh, duh!!!!

Stratos,

Where does it say that a person like yourself, should be entitled to elect lawmakers !!!

Stratos = = wilfully ignorant [......pretends to be!]
- Yadda

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: MP calls for Israeli sanctions over Gaza injustice Reply #25 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:09pm Thanks for that Yadda. So is it true or are you just making things up as you go along now?
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Reply #26 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:26pm

moses wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 6:49pm:

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.......What is wrong with muslims,they are the enemy of all mankind, slaughtering non-muslims, wives and daughters, muslims they disagree with, child sex, inbreeding,backward 7th century mentality etc.etc.

Will they ever wake up?

I don't believe so

islam, allah, muhammad, qur'an, made them exactly what they are today, they will never change, because islam would simply implode if they went outside / questioned the guidelines, responsible for who they are today.

I don't believe so either, moses.

Yadda wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 12:41pm:

....not a single moslem will be redeemed by my God.

Hallelujah!

Revelation 18:24
And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Revelation 19:1
And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Not a single moslem will be redeemed by my God.

Moslems wouldn't enjoy being in paradise anyway.
....too many Jews Zionists there.

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Psalms 129:5
Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion.

To the Israelites, God said....
Leviticus 25:23
The land shall not be sold for ever: FOR THE LAND IS MINE; for ye are strangers and sojourners with me.

Joel 1:6
For a nation is come up upon MY LAND,...

Joel 2:18
Then will the LORD be jealous for HIS LAND, and pity his people.

Joel 3:2
I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted MY LAND.

Zechariah 12:2
Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Isaiah 14:26
This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations.
27 For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?

Isaiah 51:17
Awake, awake, stand up, O Jerusalem, which hast drunk at the hand of the LORD the cup of his fury; thou hast drunken the dregs of the cup of trembling, and wrung them out.
18 There is none to guide her among all the sons whom she hath brought forth; neither is there any that taketh her by the hand of all the sons that she hath brought up.
19 These two things are come unto thee; who shall be sorry for thee? desolation, and destruction, and the famine, and the sword: by whom shall I comfort thee?
20 Thy sons have fainted, they lie at the head of all the streets, as a wild bull in a net: they are full of the fury of the LORD, the rebuke of thy God.
21 Therefore hear now this, thou afflicted, and drunken, but not with wine:
22 Thus saith thy Lord the LORD, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again:
23 But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over.

Isaiah 52:1
Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.
2 Shake thyself from the dust; arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.
3 For thus saith the LORD, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money.

Psalms 122:6
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.

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Reply #27 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:31pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:09pm:

Thanks for that Yadda.

So is it true or are you just making things up as you go along now?

As i said;

Stratos = = wilfully ignorant [......pretends to be!]
- Yadda

And;

Stratos = = unrepentant friend of wanna-be murderers, and liars.
- Yadda

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Reply #28 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:35pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:31pm:

Stratos = = unrepentant friend of wanna-be murderers, and liars.

Go on Yadda, you know how this goes. Show some evidence I support murderers and liars.

nevermind that you support ACTUAL murderers, those who commit genocide, kill babies.

I'm just asking where you got your definition of Muslim previously, and there is nothing to suggest that the word means what you said!

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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #29 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:57pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:35pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 10:31pm:

Stratos = = unrepentant friend of wanna-be murderers, and liars.

Go on Yadda, you know how this goes. Show some evidence I support murderers and liars.

nevermind that you support ACTUAL murderers, those who commit genocide, kill babies.

I'm just asking where you got your definition of Muslim previously, and there is nothing to suggest that the word means what you said!

What we believe determines how we will act.

Our choices, and how we act, defines who we are.

Our actions confirm our morality and what we believe.

Dictionary;
morality = =
1 principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour. a system of values and moral principles.
2 the extent to which an action is right or wrong.

Moslems are wanna-be murderers, imo.

Moslems willingly [remain members of, and] follow a philosophy which teaches them [moslems], that it is lawful for them [moslems], to kill those who do not believe what they [moslems] believe.

And a moslem, is a person who chooses to follow a philosophy, which teaches moslems, that it is lawful for them [moslems] to either subjugate [i.e. enslave], or murder, all of mankind - IN THE NAME OF ISLAM.

Stratos = = panderer appeaser of murderers and liars.
- Yadda

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"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

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Here, for example, are two very illuminating passages from the canonical Life of Mohammed by Ibn Ishaq, as translated by A. Guillaume, and a third passage, from the earliest known Muslim historian.

Ishaq: 204 - "'Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man [Muhammad]?' 'Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.'"

Ishaq:231 - "Muslims are one ummah (community) to the exclusion of all men. Believers are friends of one another to the exclusion of all outsiders."

And here is Al-Tabari, a very early Muslim historian, in book 9, chapter or section 69, reporting words that Muslims believe to have been said by Mohammed himself - "Killing infidels is a small matter to us".

These texts are not fossils from a distant past. They are not dead letters. They are still 'live' and carry tremendous weight in the imagination and practice of many Muslims around the world.
...DDA

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ISLAM IS A MURDEROUS DEATH CULT

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"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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