polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 1:34pm:


hehehehe, methinks you are being a bit sneaky there though technically correct. 

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 1:55pm:


You are perfectly and pedantically correct.

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A prevailing myth gandalf?

Surely you don't believe that the combined forces of the Arab States was less than that of the single Jewish state?

The facts are:
On the eve of May 14, the Arabs launched an air attack on Tel Aviv, which the Israelis resisted. This action was followed by the invasion of Israel by Arab armies from Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Egypt. Saudi Arabia sent a formation that fought under the Egyptian command.

The muslims intentions were declared: Azzam Pasha, Secretary-General of the Arab League: "It will be a war of annihilation. It will be a momentous massacre in history that will be talked about like the massacres of the Mongols or the Crusades.They would drive the Jews into the Mediterranean Sea".

muslims were told to leave the area, the decree was:

Those that left were told that they could come back and take all the Jews possessions.

Those that stayed were told they would be killed with the Jews. (Higher Arab Executive)

The muslims caused the refugee problem.

They were flogged by a minority force of Jews.

Why don't the muslims fix the problems they caused, instead of lying and blaming everyone else and crying the victim all the time?

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 5:30pm:


The only time muslims have defeated the jews in when they did cowardly surprise attacks.
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So Mohammad did not wine and dine this jewish woman who became his wife,he captured her!
Muslims today still use Mohammads example with dating.

From your link, the bits you left out-
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As long as muslims continue tapping there heads on the ground 5 times a day with their asses in the air while facing Mecca they will never beat the jews.

There is a reason why Islamic countries are poor, tapping your head on the ground with your ass in the air is not very productive.
Harvard university did a study on prayer, nobody is listening it is a waste of time.
web.med.harvard.edu/sites/RELEASES/html/3_31STEP.html

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A.
Most of those stateless people [at the conclusion of WWII, and as a consequence of WWII] were absorbed into surrounding nations - in Europe.




Isn't it obvious, that the 'Palestinian' refugee problem, is a contrived problem, and a convenient political 'stick', with which moslems can beat Israel with, upon the world stage of public opinion?

And that is the reason why the problem of 'Palestinian' refugees will never be solved, because it isn't in the political interests of Israel's enemies [ISLAMISTS] to solve the 'Palestinian' refugee 'problem'.

Literally the only argument supporting Israel here is:
arabs treat Palestinians like sh*t, so Israeli oppression is a-ok

Its pathetic.

But no matter, people power will eventually win - people as in non-muslims in the west who are driving this growing boycott and sanction movement.

Israeli oppression is currently surviving on US support alone. The US was also about the last power supporting South African apartheid, but that didn't prevent its collapsed.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:51am:


The argument supporting Israel ?



Are Israelis occupying 'Palestinian' lands???

No.

1/ Historically (WWI),
2/ legally and,
3/ by applying ISLAM's own standards,
...the Israelis [the Jewish people] have an absolute right to the land which they have secured.
Why so???
#1,
War has always been regarded as a huge 'reset button' on property rights.
And prior to WWI, the land which constitutes present day Israel, was not, and never was owned, possessed, or administered under the authority of local 'Palestinians'.
Turkey [the Ottoman empire] 'inherited' the Jewish homeland, which was 'acquired' [by moslems] through warfare / Jihad in the region [in the 600's AD].

see, ISLAM 101
http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101.html



Turkey eventually lawfully lost control over its administered territories in the region, as a consequence of its participation in WWI.
And, those territories also included that land which was previously the ancient Jewish homeland, the land area today known as Israel.

Post WWI, the world powers of that time decided to carve up, as they saw fit, those territories previously administered by Turkey.
And the world powers of that time determined to set aside an area of those territories, a small fraction of those territories, as a national Jewish homeland.
These actions, by world powers, post WWI were lawful.


The Israelis have an absolute right to the land they have secured.
#2,
Moslems themselves declare [and ISLAMIC doctrine confirms] that all non-moslem lands secured by warfare for ISLAM, lawfully belongs to moslems.
And while some may accuse Israel of occupying 'Palestinian' lands, by applying ISLAM's own standards and law, Israel today has legally acquired and defended [what once was] the ancient homeland, of Israel.
Since the war of 1967, a war which Israel did not instigate, Israel has a moral right to all of the land they secured.
And please note that all of 'Israel's wars' in the region, have all been defensive, and were not instigated by Israel.


The 'Palestinian' refugees ?

And as moses pointed out;
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1392025259/43#43
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But those nations wont do that.

Because a solution to the 'Palestinian refugee problem' which leaves the state of Israel in place, is not acceptable to any ISLAMIST - which all moslems are.

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/sarc off