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Reply #90 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 9:42am

Oh i trust the CSIRO and i beleive in climate change and i would never listen to alan.

I just think leftard public relations absolutely suck.
they have no idea how to sell an idea.

the public are badly served by them championing important causes and turning the public against these very ideas.

certainly wouldnt get a job in private with such woeful performances.

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Reply #91 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 9:59am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 9:42am:

Oh i trust the CSIRO and i beleive in climate change and i would never listen to alan.

I just think leftard public relations absolutely suck.
they have no idea how to sell an idea.

the public are badly served by them championing important causes and turning the public against these very ideas.

certainly wouldnt get a job in private with such woeful performances.

I say, dear, it might come as a bit of a suprise, but they don't have a leftard public relations department.

When it comes to propaganda, there's News Ltd and the shock jocks, and everyone else p!ssing into the wind.

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Reply #92 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 10:02am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 9:19am:

With Alan around, I don't even know why we have the CSIRO! What a waste of money. Another lefty thing imposed on us!

Exactly. The CSIRO, the Bureau of Meteorology, all academics and public servants - and Mistie's university.

It's all got to go.

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Reply #93 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 10:03am

Karnal wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 9:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 9:42am:

Oh i trust the CSIRO and i beleive in climate change and i would never listen to alan.

I just think leftard public relations absolutely suck.
they have no idea how to sell an idea.

the public are badly served by them championing important causes and turning the public against these very ideas.

certainly wouldnt get a job in private with such woeful performances.

I say, dear, it might come as a bit of a suprise, but they don't have a leftard public relations department.

When it comes to propaganda, there's News Ltd and the shock jocks, and everyone else p!ssing into the wind.

Not so, people like david attenborrough do a lot of good for the environmental movement.
The extreme greens, seek not to educate but to lecture in a condescending way.
Alan doesnt need to say a thing. Just follow lao tzu's advice and let his enemies destroy themselves Wink

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As a greenie myself, i find the green representatives a constant source of embarrassment.

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Reply #94 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 10:18am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 10:03am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 9:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 9:42am:

Oh i trust the CSIRO and i beleive in climate change and i would never listen to alan.

I just think leftard public relations absolutely suck.
they have no idea how to sell an idea.

the public are badly served by them championing important causes and turning the public against these very ideas.

certainly wouldnt get a job in private with such woeful performances.

I say, dear, it might come as a bit of a suprise, but they don't have a leftard public relations department.

When it comes to propaganda, there's News Ltd and the shock jocks, and everyone else p!ssing into the wind.

Not so, people like david attenborrough do a lot of good for the environmental movement.
The extreme greens, seek not to educate but to lecture in a condescending way.
Alan doesnt need to say a thing. Just follow lao tzu's advice and let his enemies destroy themselves Wink

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As a greenie myself, i find the green representatives a constant source of embarrassment.

Examples?

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Reply #95 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 10:32am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 10:18am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 10:03am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 9:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 9:42am:

Oh i trust the CSIRO and i beleive in climate change and i would never listen to alan.

I just think leftard public relations absolutely suck.
they have no idea how to sell an idea.

the public are badly served by them championing important causes and turning the public against these very ideas.

certainly wouldnt get a job in private with such woeful performances.

I say, dear, it might come as a bit of a suprise, but they don't have a leftard public relations department.

When it comes to propaganda, there's News Ltd and the shock jocks, and everyone else p!ssing into the wind.

Not so, people like david attenborrough do a lot of good for the environmental movement.
The extreme greens, seek not to educate but to lecture in a condescending way.
Alan doesnt need to say a thing. Just follow lao tzu's advice and let his enemies destroy themselves Wink

.
As a greenie myself, i find the green representatives a constant source of embarrassment.

Examples?

Farmers are green. you'd be nuts not to be a green farmer. Youd go broke.
Adam bandt seeks to lecture on bushfires. Wink

, i doubt he's ever seen a fire except in the lobby of a 5 star hotel
Greens want live cattle exports banned.
10 large farms in the NT were exporting water buffalo to indonesia. the water buffallo caught a lift with the live cattle. Water buffalo are environmental vandals. thanks to the ABC and the greens we now have all these feral pests set free to trample Kakadu. Wink

And 10 good businesses employing aborigines shut down Wink

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Reply #96 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 10:49am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 10:32am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 10:18am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 10:03am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 9:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 9:42am:

Oh i trust the CSIRO and i beleive in climate change and i would never listen to alan.

I just think leftard public relations absolutely suck.
they have no idea how to sell an idea.

the public are badly served by them championing important causes and turning the public against these very ideas.

certainly wouldnt get a job in private with such woeful performances.

I say, dear, it might come as a bit of a suprise, but they don't have a leftard public relations department.

When it comes to propaganda, there's News Ltd and the shock jocks, and everyone else p!ssing into the wind.

Not so, people like david attenborrough do a lot of good for the environmental movement.
The extreme greens, seek not to educate but to lecture in a condescending way.
Alan doesnt need to say a thing. Just follow lao tzu's advice and let his enemies destroy themselves Wink

.
As a greenie myself, i find the green representatives a constant source of embarrassment.

Examples?

Farmers are green. you'd be nuts not to be a green farmer. Youd go broke.
Adam bandt seeks to lecture on bushfires. Wink

, i doubt he's ever seen a fire except in the lobby of a 5 star hotel
Greens want live cattle exports banned.
10 large farms in the NT were exporting water buffalo to indonesia. the water buffallo caught a lift with the live cattle. Water buffalo are environmental vandals. thanks to the ABC and the greens we now have all these feral pests set free to trample Kakadu. Wink

And 10 good businesses employing aborigines shut down Wink

Aborigines? What does that have to do with anything?

Anyway, do you believe that unless you've seen a bushfire, you shouldn't comment on how to reduce them?
I haven't read about the water buffalo being released into the Kakadu national park, and this being the fault of the ABC and the greens. Care to provide specific examples to this claim?
And what does 10 good businesses employing aborigines have to do with lefties lecturing?

None of this sounds very rational. You're upset that people a lecturing to you, yet your examples suggest you're upset about policy, designed to protect the environment. What kind of greenie are you? Just because you love animals does not make you a greenie - especially if your love of animals comes second to your love of money.

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Reply #97 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 11:05am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 3:13pm:

Misty, what is social equality? Really? I'm going to equate that to your own conditioning Sad

It really is quite sad, that when someone speaks of social equality, you straight away assume one is talking about outcomes. No, no, no. Social equality means equal rights, and equal access to opportunities (health,education). Would I say our current society offers this? Obviously not. And as a result of the inequalities that exist, this is where crime spawns from. Can it ever be eradicated? Probably not, I agree with you. But the rises we have seen have come from the direct result of our society becoming less equal.

Rubbish. This is just the "progressive" narrative: claim social equality is the key to the promised land and that inequality is the cause of crime and suffering. What studies support this? Bring them out. I'll bet I can tear to shreds the research methodology and moral perspective employed by the authors.

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Can I get an example from you as to what you would consider an actual ethnic crime? An actual example, Misty. I'm curious to understand what crime is occurring in Australia that is accepted by the "ethnics" back home, but we deem intolerable. And then I'd be interested to investigate further to truly understand the underlying cause.

Drive by shootings appears to be a Middle Eastern speciality, the vast majority of which occur in the South-Western suburbs of Sydney. This is an import. Protecting one's honour and turf by violent means is common in Middle Eastern countries. Westerners have little concept of honour and therefore do not understand the motivations behind this type of violent retribution.

Resolution by violent means is common amongst a lot of non-Western cultures. It's funny that your type wants to import these people, as they would be the last people to fit into your idealised form of community.

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Reply #99 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 11:09am

Its surprising that lefties worry about alan.
never listened to the bloke.
Surely you recognise he just "preaches to the choir"
i doubt he has ever changed an opinion in his life.

Farmers hate the greens. Go figure. I'll ask all my neighbours why but it will just be a lot of F's and C's.
Yeah, the greens are very popular in inner city urban areas.
Lets check the electoral figures on how well they poll in the bush where the people with the real knowledge live Wink

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Reply #100 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 11:15am

There are some Greens working in the bush against CSG, but the dumb farmers still vote Nats thinking the Nats support farmers—nope, Nats now support the miners, more money I guess.

Greens have a lot of support from young, inner city professionals (and NIMBYs everywhere) one reason they are not a progressive party, save for “fig leaf” issues like SSM is now. People like Greenswin haven’t figured that out yet and don’t want to see it.

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Reply #101 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 11:16am

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 4:39pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 3:01pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 1:50pm:

Misty, you know too well that I called you an extremist because of the colourful words you tried to use to describe issues. Remember? And especially when you start talking about feces.

Incorrect. Read here: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391510268/255 Read particularly reply 258, as most of the conversation is in quote boxes. Nowhere did I use "colourful words". I merely described what topics I'd like to see on Q&A. You dismissed and ridiculed topics I'd like to see discussed on the show. It's not hard to see who is the extremist when someone flat out refuses to talk about some topics.

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May I also add Misty, my dearest old friend, that ethnic crime is a very nice strawman created by dummies like yourself to try and lay blame on the rise of crime on "multiculturism", instead of on the true cause, being the growing divide in social equality.

There is so much wrong here I do not know where to start. "Social equality"?! What is that? What does it even mean?

Alevine didn't indicate a preference for "social equality", Mistie. He referred to a "divide in social equality".

By this, Alevine alludes to the growing divide in income distribution, as highlighted by such hotbeds of "progressivism" as the US government and the agenda at the recent World Economic Forum in Davos.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-h-morial/income-inequality_b_4688614.html

Personally, I don't think this wealth divide is as extreme in Australia as it is in other developed countries such as the US and UK, and especially in most developing countries. However, it's one of the most crucial issues facing the world today.

Who knows? it may even be more important than gay marriage and your concerns about anal sex.

How do you measure "social equality"? Easy: in capitalism, you measure it by income levels.

Do they teach economics at the Acadame these days, Mistie?

While I do believe that people should have access to minimum subsistence, "equality" is just an excuse for the envious to tear down the more successful. When will the preachers of equality be happy? When everyone has a two BMWs in the drive way? When everyone has 2 plasma screen tvs? When everyone can have a disposable income of $2,000 a week? The list is endless.

Equality is actually a destructive social policy. It brings out envy, rage, and every other negative emotion. And the "progressives" want to base their entire social policy on such a thing. What a society they want to engineer; one where people are constantly agitated that Joe Blow down the road has an extra car in the drive way or a better ride on lawnmower.

The "progressives" are actually very bourgeois here; they are materialists just like the capitalists. Perhaps some Stoicism or Buddhist style meditation might calm their nerves better.

I fully agree that everyone should have access to basic human needs, but I completely disagree with the goal and driving force behind equality.

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Reply #104 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 11:23am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 11:17am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Strange, I remember the bikie gangs also loved the drive by.

Have you noticed what ethnicity they often are?

Back in the 80s 90s when that was all happening, still bloody white vets

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