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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Give me the Tarriff money and i will make cars Reply #15 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:07am BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 6:54am: Fair dinkum, Give me the money from trade tariffs on imported cars and I will build an Aussie made car By Australians, For Australians. So in other words a piece of junk no one wants. Because Australians buy all sorts of cars.
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Reply #17 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:16am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:07am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 6:54am:

Fair dinkum, Give me the money from trade tariffs on imported cars and I will build an Aussie made car By Australians, For Australians.

So in other words a piece of junk no one wants. Because Australians buy all sorts of cars.

Your missing the point, I'm talking about a quality car, A well built car. A problem our car industry faced was cost, producing as many cars as possible for a very low cost. Competing head on with cheap Asians imports. Its not possible. Building a quality car is a totally different kettle of fish.

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Reply #18 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:17am

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:14am:

good idea ... there will always be a niche market if someone develops the right car ... no one says they have to build 1 million cars a year .... how many does Ferraro build a year? Toyota pumps out in one week what Ferrari puts out in a year, and still Ferrari is making a profit.

By building on brand image which Bloody Rippers car will not have, plus access to Fiats technology and resources. Not exactly the same situation.

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Reply #19 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:18am

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:14am:

good idea ... there will always be a niche market if someone develops the right car ... no one says they have to build 1 million cars a year .... how many does Ferraro build a year? Toyota pumps out in one week what Ferrari puts out in a year, and still Ferrari is making a profit.

Another one is Lotus, I watched a doco once of their factory and its a small operation. But it works.

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Reply #20 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:19am

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:16am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:07am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 6:54am:

Fair dinkum, Give me the money from trade tariffs on imported cars and I will build an Aussie made car By Australians, For Australians.

So in other words a piece of junk no one wants. Because Australians buy all sorts of cars.

Your missing the point, I'm talking about a quality car, A well built car. A problem our car industry faced was cost, producing as many cars as possible for a very low cost. Competing head on with cheap Asians imports. Its not possible. Building a quality car is a totally different kettle of fish.

Strange, I thought the Commodore and the Falcon were quality cars. Its a nice idea but its a pipe dream and doesnt actually go to the crux of the matter of whats wrong with our car industry.

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Reply #21 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:20am

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:18am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:14am:

good idea ... there will always be a niche market if someone develops the right car ... no one says they have to build 1 million cars a year .... how many does Ferraro build a year? Toyota pumps out in one week what Ferrari puts out in a year, and still Ferrari is making a profit.

Another one is Lotus, I watched a doco once of their factory and its a small operation. But it works.

Apart from the fact Lotus went broke and had to be bought out by Proton.

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Reply #22 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:28am

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We are part of Asia and it's the Asian century. If we can't design and make decent hybrid/electric cars here for export then we might as well pack up and head for a cave.

The global market is more than just Asia. Otherwise the idea of exporting some of the vehicles is sound.

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Reply #23 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:31am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:17am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:14am:

good idea ... there will always be a niche market if someone develops the right car ... no one says they have to build 1 million cars a year .... how many does Ferraro build a year? Toyota pumps out in one week what Ferrari puts out in a year, and still Ferrari is making a profit.

By building on brand image which Bloody Rippers car will not have, plus access to Fiats technology and resources. Not exactly the same situation.

Ferrari didn't start with brand image or Fiats technology, and its its quality and reputation have nothing to do with Fiat .. they were well developed long before fiat got there ....

build a good product and the reputation will take care of itself ... as for technology, there's no shortage of available technology out there .. it's not like Fiat exclusive rights to anything

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Reply #24 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:32am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:19am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:16am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:07am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 6:54am:

Fair dinkum, Give me the money from trade tariffs on imported cars and I will build an Aussie made car By Australians, For Australians.

So in other words a piece of junk no one wants. Because Australians buy all sorts of cars.

Your missing the point, I'm talking about a quality car, A well built car. A problem our car industry faced was cost, producing as many cars as possible for a very low cost. Competing head on with cheap Asians imports. Its not possible. Building a quality car is a totally different kettle of fish.

Strange, I thought the Commodore and the Falcon were quality cars. Its a nice idea but its a pipe dream and doesnt actually go to the crux of the matter of whats wrong with our car industry.

One million cars sold a year. Maybe 100 different models. On average 10,000 of each model sold. Commodore and Falcon sold about this many.

The Australian market is too fragmented. If there was less choice in the Australian market, the sales for each model would have been higher. No country in the world has more models available. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. The good thing is a wide range of choice. The bad thing is the cost of parts for each model will be higher.

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Reply #25 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:35am

Bam wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:32am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:19am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:16am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:07am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 6:54am:

Fair dinkum, Give me the money from trade tariffs on imported cars and I will build an Aussie made car By Australians, For Australians.

So in other words a piece of junk no one wants. Because Australians buy all sorts of cars.

Your missing the point, I'm talking about a quality car, A well built car. A problem our car industry faced was cost, producing as many cars as possible for a very low cost. Competing head on with cheap Asians imports. Its not possible. Building a quality car is a totally different kettle of fish.

Strange, I thought the Commodore and the Falcon were quality cars. Its a nice idea but its a pipe dream and doesnt actually go to the crux of the matter of whats wrong with our car industry.

One million cars sold a year. Maybe 100 different models. On average 10,000 of each model sold. Commodore and Falcon sold about this many.

The Australian market is too fragmented. If there was less choice in the Australian market, the sales for each model would have been higher. No country in the world has more models available. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. The good thing is a wide range of choice. The bad thing is the cost of parts for each model will be higher.

agree ... there should one or two models, with maybe two option packs to each model ... anymore and its not cost effective.

if the customer wants anything else they can get it customised after market

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Reply #26 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:35am

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:31am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:17am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:14am:

good idea ... there will always be a niche market if someone develops the right car ... no one says they have to build 1 million cars a year .... how many does Ferraro build a year? Toyota pumps out in one week what Ferrari puts out in a year, and still Ferrari is making a profit.

By building on brand image which Bloody Rippers car will not have, plus access to Fiats technology and resources. Not exactly the same situation.

Ferrari didn't start with brand image or Fiats technology, and its its quality and reputation have nothing to do with Fiat .. they were well developed long before fiat got there ....

build a good product and the reputation will take care of itself ... as for technology, there's no shortage of available technology out there .. it's not like Fiat exclusive rights to anything

Italian cars had build quality? When?

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Reply #27 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:36am

Bam wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:28am:

____ wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 9:37am:

We are part of Asia and it's the Asian century. If we can't design and make decent hybrid/electric cars here for export then we might as well pack up and head for a cave.

The global market is more than just Asia. Otherwise the idea of exporting some of the vehicles is sound.

Focus on our local area and the rest of the world will happen.

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Reply #28 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:37am

Bam wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:32am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:19am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:16am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:07am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 6:54am:

Fair dinkum, Give me the money from trade tariffs on imported cars and I will build an Aussie made car By Australians, For Australians.

So in other words a piece of junk no one wants. Because Australians buy all sorts of cars.

Your missing the point, I'm talking about a quality car, A well built car. A problem our car industry faced was cost, producing as many cars as possible for a very low cost. Competing head on with cheap Asians imports. Its not possible. Building a quality car is a totally different kettle of fish.

Strange, I thought the Commodore and the Falcon were quality cars. Its a nice idea but its a pipe dream and doesnt actually go to the crux of the matter of whats wrong with our car industry.

One million cars sold a year. Maybe 100 different models. On average 10,000 of each model sold. Commodore and Falcon sold about this many.

The Australian market is too fragmented. If there was less choice in the Australian market, the sales for each model would have been higher. No country in the world has more models available. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. The good thing is a wide range of choice. The bad thing is the cost of parts for each model will be higher.

Thats my point, 30 years ago, it was either a Falcon or a Commodore. Now its Falcon, Commodore, Camry, a variety of SUVs or wagons if you have a family, corollas, mazdas if you dont, etc etc.

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Re: Give me the Tarriff money and i will make cars
Reply #29 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:37am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:35am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:31am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:17am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:14am:

good idea ... there will always be a niche market if someone develops the right car ... no one says they have to build 1 million cars a year .... how many does Ferraro build a year? Toyota pumps out in one week what Ferrari puts out in a year, and still Ferrari is making a profit.

By building on brand image which Bloody Rippers car will not have, plus access to Fiats technology and resources. Not exactly the same situation.

Ferrari didn't start with brand image or Fiats technology, and its its quality and reputation have nothing to do with Fiat .. they were well developed long before fiat got there ....

build a good product and the reputation will take care of itself ... as for technology, there's no shortage of available technology out there .. it's not like Fiat exclusive rights to anything

Italian cars had build quality? When?

you should refrain from commenting on things you obviously have no idea about

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